Joshy92

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If you are more interested in Ava.. and you chose to meet ava at her workplace you instead of going home to meet zuni you will be on the Love route. Isn't that what people want that are not interested in NTR?

Meeting Ava = Ava Love path
Meeting Zuni = Ava NTR path

Just that this "choice" will not be the only factor. :giggle:
Congratulations on a new release, man.

The game is awesome, and the girls are really beautiful.
 
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Kuviragames

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I'll shoot my opinion out there, obviously not gospel or anything but just what I've noticed from the community over the years of being active on here.

1. People don't like it when NTR/Cheating is used as a "game over" bad choice decision. If someone is thinking they are on a route and suddenly a choice they tried 30 mins ago is making the girls fuck someone else people are going to rage.

2. People want a simple NTR on/off switch at the start of the game. Choosing "off" will force the game it never allow them to make a choice that could lead to that kind of content. They don't want it a mashup of 4 different decisions between 3 different girls mixed into the game

3. People use NTR as a blanket statement for any girl the MC could get with in the game having any sort of "relationshipy" (yes, kissing, handholding, sex, dates). A girl talking about a dude shes boning, even if not in a relationship with the MC yet will still get these same reactions.

Just keep these in mind when answering peoples comments, NTR is THE biggest trigger for people on the site, and when a dev is not explicit in what they are doing people will just pile on the hate.
Yea I kinda experienced that already for a good amount. But at the end.. I don't care. It might sound rude but there are tons of games with harem tags or whatever. The comments I had to read here or on other websites.. my life is to short to care about those people. I am happy for everyone giving it a try, happy for every feedback positive and negative but I don't care about some crybabies. I don't mind people telling me they wish something would be different or they didn't like this or that. It's my first game and I will do a ton of mistakes but at the end if someone get's rude = ignore. I am pretty sure a lot of people won't like the last Lisa scene but I still decided to put it in and make it not avoidable.

Thank you very much but honestly I really don't care about those people. I am not doing this for them. The good thing is.. it's been awhile since someone was rude to me because he did not like my game. :giggle:

And normal questions/conversations about NTR in my game are totally fine. I really love to talk about my game and I happily answer every question someone has. As long as it is with respect.
 
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Kuviragames

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there is a middle ground there, it all depends of how you do it in the end...
i see some games pull of having multiple things like that, like NCC, Pink Box, Karlsson Gambit... its all tied on how yo do it, if things are clear, and split. then you're able to have both sides, and those in the middle.
but being clear about the NTR is a must IF you want both sides.
This is for devs useful that are just doing this for money and I totally agree. But money is not my primary motivation. Would it be nice to earn some money to buy better equipment? Sure. But will I let money/success bend my game for others? Never. I am in a very fortunate position that I earn enough money outside of this hobby. It's not enough to save a lot but enough to pay my rent and buy food etc. So even just 5 people saying.. I like your game is everything I need.
And somehow it turned out be a lot more than just 5 people. And for those people.. I love you guys! <3
 
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if muslims force their women to dress in such a way that other men won't look at them lustfully, then... mission failed :cool:

btw is there any "content" with her?!
 
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No. In the true love path MC and Ava will not cheat. That doesn't mean there are no interactions with other males like talking or maybe a hug. But no kisses, no bj, no sex etc.
I would be sad for the guys who think speaking or hugging is NTR lol but thanks for your answer I think I will really enjoy your game you give us real choice and if there is a ntr path it will be logical and it is the consequence of your own action it s make a lot of sense for me
 
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Kuviragames

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I would be sad for the guys who think speaking or hugging is NTR lol but thanks for your answer I think I will really enjoy your game you give us real choice and if there is a ntr path it will be logical and it is the consequence of your own action it s make a lot of sense for me
Thank you. I can't promise that at the end everything I planned turn out good. I am still learning and all but I promise to give my best. :D
 
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too late! :sneaky:

so... is there any "content" with her?!
Just a bit of fooling around yet. It felt going with her full naughty in the earlier stage of the game because of obvious reasons. But she is one of the girls that you will be able to.. *knick knack*. :whistle:
 

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Just started this game. There's no tag for it, and I don't care if it happens or not. Just curious if the MC will ever have anything to do with his mom? She is cute. But if not, I don't mind. Thanks!
 
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Just started this game. There's no tag for it, and I don't care if it happens or not. Just curious if the MC will ever have anything to do with his mom? She is cute. But if not, I don't mind. Thanks!
No. There will be no incest in the game. :giggle:
 

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If you are more interested in Ava.. and you chose to meet ava at her workplace you instead of going home to meet zuni you will be on the Love route. Isn't that what people want that are not interested in NTR?
Right but I'm more interested in Ava so will go meet her, but also want to see her ntr content. Telling her it's normal to let her boss touch her up and things is a way more clear cut way of the player steering the characters towards the content they want for them. Having to avoid the character you're interested in just so you can get their ntr content isn't fun.
 
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Yea I kinda experienced that already for a good amount. But at the end.. I don't care. It might sound rude but there are tons of games with harem tags or whatever. The comments I had to read here or on other websites.. my life is to short to care about those people. I am happy for everyone giving it a try, happy for every feedback positive and negative but I don't care about some crybabies. I don't mind people telling me they wish something would be different or they didn't like this or that. It's my first game and I will do a ton of mistakes but at the end if someone get's rude = ignore. I am pretty sure a lot of people won't like the last Lisa scene but I still decided to put it in and make it not avoidable.

Thank you very much but honestly I really don't care about those people. I am not doing this for them. The good thing is.. it's been awhile since someone was rude to me because he did not like my game. :giggle:

And normal questions/conversations about NTR in my game are totally fine. I really love to talk about my game and I happily answer every question someone has. As long as it is with respect.
Wait who is Lisa and what scene? Asking because I am horrible names. Sometimes makes playing VNs, especially if I'm returning back to one, even after a short time. A nightmare if I can't get a visual reminder. Amount of times I go ...who? when someone is referenced by name is actually.... a bit concerning as I think about it :unsure:

But only been calm and normal cause this game hasn't blown up yet. If it ever does, I hope you got your PPE. Because shit will get hazardous. NTR might be the most powerful shit stirrer known to man. Maybe even.... too powerful. Entertaining as hell for us on the sidelines. But you seem like good peoples, so you not being hit with that would be preferable.
 
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If you are more interested in Ava.. and you chose to meet ava at her workplace you instead of going home to meet zuni you will be on the Love route. Isn't that what people want that are not interested in NTR?

Meeting Ava = Ava Love path
Meeting Zuni = Ava NTR path
Well, no. People who want to build a harem also want to check out other girls wiithout the girlfriend cheating, and people interested in NTR maybe don't want to see an uninterested, negligent husband, so they meet Ava.

The biggest problem in these games is always that choices made for the main character are actually questions aimed at the player, just like this example, which is actually bad. Whether the main character goes to Zuni or meets Ava doesn't tell you anything about what the player wants to happen.

In many games, when the main character says "I don't like NTR", this closes off the NTR path, because the developer thinks the player doesn't like it. Which is wrong: I want to see NTR without the husband enjoying it, so...

In a nutshell, if you want to know what the player wants, you have to ask the player, not the main character.
There is NTR off/On switch
That's good. Now, NTR off should mean that all decisions lead to an NTR free story, and NTR on should mean that all decisions lead to NTR.
 
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