VN Ren'Py Lovephobia [v0.80v4] [Kuviragames]

[Gato negro]

yeah I get that and normally id agree I only disagree because it has happened with other characters just not the MC and his girl , so for me it feels like the theme is in the game already and that is enough at least to me. Like I said 2 sides of the same coin some are interested in only seeing it happen to the MC while others like it from all perspectives.

So a NPC Humiliate another NPC in the game, the Humiliation tag should be added? You make no sense my man. It needs to be happening with the MC. NPC's doesn't matter.

 

[Dessolos]

So a NPC Humiliate another NPC in the game, the Humiliation tag should be added? You make no sense my man. It needs to be happening with the MC. NPC's doesn't matter.

each to their own I was just sharing my perspective / opinion nothing more. With your example if it was a theme of the game I would say yes even if it happens to NPC's. Just like it is with this one. Just one time not enough

 

[Gato negro]

each to their own I was just sharing my perspective / opinion nothing more. With your example if it was a theme of the game I would say yes even if it happens to NPC's. Just like it is with this one. Just one time not enough

But my guy, Why do we play these games? We put ourselves into the MC's shoes. NPC is there to keep the story going. So they don't matter for me. When i play these games I think myself as the MC and think what would i do in his situation. I respect your opinion but theme or not if its not happening with the MC it shouldn't be on the list. Because Main focus of the game is the MC.

 

[Quetzzz]

each to their own I was just sharing my perspective / opinion nothing more. With your example if it was a theme of the game I would say yes even if it happens to NPC's. Just like it is with this one. Just one time not enough

Sometimes I think F95 needs more genres or granularity, but then I consider that tag lists would become huge. I think what you're saying makes the most sense. NTR is a more ubiquitous theme in this game than "groping", for instance.

 

[Finuee]

But my guy, Why do we play these games? We put ourselves into the MC's shoes. NPC is there to keep the story going. So they don't matter for me. When i play these games I think myself as the MC and think what would i do in his situation. I respect your opinion but theme or not if its not happening with the MC it shouldn't be on the list. Because Main focus of the game is the MC.

Not all of us do that, though. For me, I'm playing the story of some characters, not being them. So an NPC is less important, but also a character in the story. Not trying to invalidate how you experience VNs, just pointing out not all of us experience them the same way.

 

[Dessolos]

But my guy, Why do we play these games? We put ourselves into the MC's shoes. NPC is there to keep the story going. So they don't matter for me. When i play these games I think myself as the MC and think what would i do in his situation. I respect your opinion but theme or not if its not happening with the MC it shouldn't be on the list. Because Main focus of the game is the MC.

Honestly I don't care about the MC in 90% of the games I play I can't put myself in their shoes at all or self insert. I see a MC as a tool to tell a story or have some romance. It's probably why my opinion on the subject is what it is.

 

[Kuviragames]

So a NPC Humiliate another NPC in the game, the Humiliation tag should be added? You make no sense my man. It needs to be happening with the MC. NPC's doesn't matter.

I do understand your point but that's not exactly how the tag system here works.

NTR Tag:
There are a lot of different kind of NTR themes packed under this one NTR tag. Netori, Netorase, Netorare, Cuckolding etc.
And depending who you ask you could say there is already Netori in it. Other would say even Lisa is not your girlfriend but you can still invest time, emotions and all in her and then you see her having sex with her Boyfriend where MC is sad about it.. some people would call that NTR other would not because she is not your girlfriend.
You can have sex with your girlfriends Mom - is that Netori?
Honestly I am not sure about all that. Fact is - You see girls having sex with other guys and the closest Tag for that is NTR.

Other tags:
There is also a group sex tag. A double blowjob is not what I would count as group sex. So if I would be looking for group sex and I would be disappointed but I did not add that tag and I am not allowed to remove it.
Same goes for Sex toys. You basically see it in 1 or 2 images and it's not even used. Or the sleep sex tag. Yeah MC is waking up Ava with going down on her but I don't think it's enough to be tagged as sleep sex.

So as you can see.. the tag system here could need some improvements.
But like Dessolos mentioned the Ava scenes will happen in a few updates and than this discussion will finally have an end.

 

[Virtual Player]

What's the latest version (not the one on the title page of this thread but actually available to subscribers)?

 

[Finuee]

What's the latest version (not the one on the title page of this thread but actually available to subscribers)?

Version 0.85 (day 18)

 

[Gato negro]

But like @Dessolos mentioned the Ava scenes will happen in a few updates and than this discussion will finally have an end.

And that is what im waiting for.

 

[ninjasmurf73]

I do understand your point but that's not exactly how the tag system here works.

NTR Tag:
There are a lot of different kind of NTR themes packed under this one NTR tag. Netori, Netorase, Netorare, Cuckolding etc.
And depending who you ask you could say there is already Netori in it. Other would say even Lisa is not your girlfriend but you can still invest time, emotions and all in her and then you see her having sex with her Boyfriend where MC is sad about it.. some people would call that NTR other would not because she is not your girlfriend.
You can have sex with your girlfriends Mom - is that Netori?
Honestly I am not sure about all that. Fact is - You see girls having sex with other guys and the closest Tag for that is NTR.

Other tags:
There is also a group sex tag. A double blowjob is not what I would count as group sex. So if I would be looking for group sex and I would be disappointed but I did not add that tag and I am not allowed to remove it.
Same goes for Sex toys. You basically see it in 1 or 2 images and it's not even used. Or the sleep sex tag. Yeah MC is waking up Ava with going down on her but I don't think it's enough to be tagged as sleep sex.

So as you can see.. the tag system here could need some improvements.
But like Dessolos mentioned the Ava scenes will happen in a few updates and than this discussion will finally have an end.

It used to not bother me because NTR was such a small niche for the longest time. Recently, it's like in every other game. Not sure if everyone is actually on board with the theme, or if the people that are really into it are the most vocal and developers think that's what people want. Seems pretty divided subject based on replies with games that have this element. Either way, due to huge amount of games with his subject matter these days, really think an expanded tag should be made. Something super simple like "Netorare Avoidable", Netorare Unavoidable/Forced". For me personally, unless developer has taken time to post NTR avoidable in description of game when the game has the tag, I pass on it.

 

[Meiri]

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