VN Ren'Py Lovephobia [v0.80v4] [Kuviragames]

[Avaron1974]

Love the dynamic between the MC and the 2 sisters.

I've got saves for other routes but the sisters are def my main save.

I disagree with this statement. The development of an NTR-storyline in a realistic setting with a healthy relationship between non-retarded people and a competent antagonist is possible without landmines and unfortunate events. It happens in real life, too.

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The assumption that a wife only ever cheats when he makes a mistake or is a retard or their relationship is over is a bit short sighted.

I don't mind NTR but I genuinely don't think it fits in with Ava's (awesome name by the way) character. She's completely into the MC, her cheating on him doesn't make sense.

But the Love route with the main girl will be completely NTR free.

Luckily the dev has clarified already it won't happen with her so it's not an issue but it does fit with other characters.

 

[Dessolos]

lol the more I skim comments I think this game is 100% moving up on my list to be my next game now lol and pushing a game back I been trying to get around to playing for 2 weeks now lol.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Love the dynamic between the MC and the 2 sisters.

I've got saves for other routes but the sisters are def my main save.



I don't mind NTR but I genuinely don't think it fits in with Ava's (awesome name by the way) character. She's completely into the MC, her cheating on him doesn't make sense.


Luckily the dev has clarified already it won't happen with her so it's not an issue but it does fit with other characters.

I agree id say Ava is more likely to murder the MC for cheating i mean not like randomly out of the blue haha or lock him up and have him as a sex slave is more likely than her just cheating on him haha

 

[Adhdclassic]

That end party scene Kinda confused how you leave your sister behind after that situation with her friend and drop them off firstI can't wait to see the update.

 

[Kuviragames]

God I love long comments like this. Something is wrong with me.

Sorry for the layout on this I'm replying on my phone so I can't quote it how I'd like so il take it point by point

So the bit in yellow -The Japanese netorare translates to “to be taken off.” The term is often loosely translated as “cuckold” as well, which refers to the husband or boyfriend of an adulteress - so with that definition you wouldn't apply that to the MC as typically it only applies where there is a sexual relationship already in place hence why it would apply only to the dad and jenny's boyfriend, so with there being no incest tag nothing with in the spectrum of NTR would apply to the MC , now depending on who bangs the mum and or sister I will say for the sake of an example it's a friend of the MC if said friend slept with the mum or sister it would be humiliation if anything like haha bro guess what I banged your mum/ sister - hope this makes more sense?

It does thank you.

Interesting with Ava I've a few questions so I get that you'll try and answer them without spoilers or if you want to DM me around them that's fine -1, if it does happen does Ava consistently cheat or is it a one of or does it trigger more often depending how often you cheat , but I also get the impression with Ava she would do it to be like look it's not so fucking nice is it haha rather than her being bored of the MC or wanting to leave him . 2, is there set girls that won't trigger Ava cheating or is it that you can play around with her consent as she has given it for one female so far or does it remain at that - this question I'm aware it will be a tough one to answer without spoilers so I do apologize

Ava will cheat only once doesn't matter how often MC cheats on her.
It won't be a revenge thing and also not a bored of MC thing.
I did not decide yet if I want to implement another MFF scene or not. The triggers are not 100% set it stone yet. So I maybe change something. But there is a way were you can cheat on her with one person and she won't find out and a way were she will find out just by cheating once. And I will ask asahibito to not mark the trap in the mod. Muahaha!

Just kidding. It's not like I create the content with traps or with complicated things. I try to make it natural. So you don't want to risk getting cheated on? Don't do it yourself. You don't want your mom cheating on your day? Prevent it from happening when you get the chance for that. But I am very thankful for asahibito creating a walktrough mod for people that want to make sure not seeing things they don't want to.

Also the hospital bed scene so that would suggest a potential casual fun situation or the dynamics of the mcs and Ava's relationship become a bit more free haha

That is just girl on girl action where MC will not be there to see it. I won't spoiler what will happen but I still wanted to give the option to avoid that. Specially because it is on Avas GF path.

I'm going to have to do another play through now haha as much as I love fucking around Ava holds a special place in my heart , also I just wanted to say I really like your choices in regards to love interests and largely each of them has something that connects them to eachother so they have a past together sort of thing rather than it just being a selection of strangers and your only worry is that you don't run into one Li while out with another haha

Don't forget Zoe. She needs love too. And I am happy that you like my game so far. I hope I won't ruin it with one of my future updates.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Wonder how many paths are planned.

 

[Kuviragames]

I disagree with this statement. The development of an NTR-storyline in a realistic setting with a healthy relationship between non-retarded people and a competent antagonist is possible without landmines and unfortunate events. It happens in real life, too.

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The assumption that a wife only ever cheats when he makes a mistake or is a retard or their relationship is over is a bit short sighted.

I think I played to many stupid NTR games. The first reason you mention sounds actually very possible. Not that she thinks she owes him something but that there are still feelings and all. And I agree. There are indeed a lot of reasons why a man or a women might cheat.

 

[halleluja10]

On top is how you usually structure a game and below the total mess I did. I guess its self explaining. And the blue line is Jenny and not Jonny.

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I don't see the problem here, it looks like a perfectly laid out story structure to me!

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[Kuviragames]

I agree with your points here also with the story and the characters isn't that the back story for every blackmail NTR game ever haha the wrong thing for the right reasons haha

But for me personally I don't see the MC as a white knight I just think he's not a dick , I think with there being so many ntr games as of late it has muddy the lines in the aspect that we only see characters as dominant males , submissive push overs and white knights so to speak , that we forget that an MC could have little to no flaws and is generally just a nice person and not a massive dick or has no spine whatsoever , how ever everyone has there own opinion that's just my say on the matter

It was never my intention to make him a white knight but I do understand why people feel like he is one or seems to be one. It's actually pretty hard for a drama mama like me to create drama moments and not have your MC solving it.

 

[Kuviragames]

Love the dynamic between the MC and the 2 sisters.

I've got saves for other routes but the sisters are def my main save.



I don't mind NTR but I genuinely don't think it fits in with Ava's (awesome name by the way) character. She's completely into the MC, her cheating on him doesn't make sense.


Luckily the dev has clarified already it won't happen with her so it's not an issue but it does fit with other characters.

Thank you. Happy to read that. For Ava make sure MC is a good boy.

 

[Kuviragames]

lol the more I skim comments I think this game is 100% moving up on my list to be my next game now lol and pushing a game back I been trying to get around to playing for 2 weeks now lol.

Come to the dark side!

 

[Kuviragames]

I agree id say Ava is more likely to murder the MC for cheating i mean not like randomly out of the blue haha or lock him up and have him as a sex slave is more likely than her just cheating on him haha

Humans make mistakes

 

[Kuviragames]

That end party scene Kinda confused how you leave your sister behind after that situation with her friend and drop them off firstI can't wait to see the update.

That's why I made sure that they called her first to make sure everything is alright. If she would not have pick up for example MC would have entered the party to search for her.

 

[Kuviragames]

Wonder how many paths are planned.

It might sound sometimes like a lot but if we speak about endings there are just 4 or 5.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

It was never my intention to make him a white knight but I do understand why people feel like he is one or seems to be one. It's actually pretty hard for a drama mama like me to create drama moments and not have your MC solving it.

I don't think he's a white knight I think he's just a good guy

But I did want to ask is there a reason you made him so baby faced ( younger looking ) than his age I can't remember if it was mentioned before

 

[Kuviragames]

I don't see the problem here, it looks like a perfectly laid out story structure to me!

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Actually I would have need to paint Ava, Zoe, Zuni, Linda, Mom, Jenny. And on 2D with 6 colors you would just see a rainbow that doesn't make sense at all.

 

[Adhdclassic]

That's why I made sure that they called her first to make sure everything is alright. If she would not have pick up for example MC would have entered the party to search for her.

Yea that's what I thought. I would have went in and got her out after incident but that's on me putting myself in that situation. Self reminder its a story.

 

[Kuviragames]

I don't think he's a white knight I think he's just a good guy

But I did want to ask is there a reason you made him so baby faced ( younger looking ) than his age I can't remember if it was mentioned before

I am working with Genesis9 figures. For those who doesn't know what it is.. it's the basic figure of the 3D Programm Daz Studio.
And Genesis 9 is the latest figure. A lot of people specially a bit older ones are working on the genesis 8 figure. And when I started with Lovephobia there were not many genesis 9 Male figures. And I was looking for an normal average guy that looks around 22-23 years old. And he was the only one that kinda looked like what I was looking for. And I think he does look like 22-23 years old.

 

[Kuviragames]

Yea that's what I thought. I would have went in and got her out after incident but that's on me putting myself in that situation. Self reminder its a story.

I understand your point but you couldn't force her to come with you. So let's say she really was talking to an old friend and you coming in forcing her to come with you.. not sure if that would be the right approach. Thanks god I was not in that situation. And yea its just a story and I wanted MC to be alone with Jenny. But more on that with the next update.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

God I love long comments like this. Something is wrong with me.


It does thank you.


Ava will cheat only once doesn't matter how often MC cheats on her.
It won't be a revenge thing and also not a bored of MC thing.
I did not decide yet if I want to implement another MFF scene or not. The triggers are not 100% set it stone yet. So I maybe change something. But there is a way were you can cheat on her with one person and she won't find out and a way were she will find out just by cheating once. And I will ask asahibito to not mark the trap in the mod. Muahaha!

Just kidding. It's not like I create the content with traps or with complicated things. I try to make it natural. So you don't want to risk getting cheated on? Don't do it yourself. You don't want your mom cheating on your day? Prevent it from happening when you get the chance for that. But I am very thankful for asahibito creating a walktrough mod for people that want to make sure not seeing things they don't want to.


That is just girl on girl action where MC will not be there to see it. I won't spoiler what will happen but I still wanted to give the option to avoid that. Specially because it is on Avas GF path.



Don't forget Zoe. She needs love too. And I am happy that you like my game so far. I hope I won't ruin it with one of my future updates.

Interesting so I assume that Ava either finds out or you admit to the cheating then , does the MC also find out that Ava cheats or is that still to be decided and is the plan to keep them together anyway if cheating happens or will it just be a friendship situation again they may not be decided as of yet

And yes I'm aware I'm asking loaded questions with the potential for spoilers but I can't help myself haha

I must of missed the mff scene the only time I can think of that happening is with Ava and Zoe but I wouldn't say it was that kind of scene

No I get that normally I tend to play game multiple ways if the story is good enough to see all scenes/endings

Interesting that you only plan to make it girl on girl , tho I toy'd with what to pick then I wondered if by picking it would Ava be more receptive to letting you play around sort of thing

Ooo of course Zoe needs love Il never forget her but I must admit you've thrown me a curve ball here especially with Ava with the way you describe her I don't see her making her relationship with the MC open so now it has me thinking what way you go about getting everyone without losing Ava haha but then on the outside if you lose Ava , Zoe would likely follow suit so then you wouldn't have everyone but then I wonder did you mean everyone at any given time or is it just the option to hook up with everyone but not maintain them all

Honestly it's great and I really appreciate you being so active on the thread regarding it