VN Ren'Py Abandoned Luke's Way [v0.36a] [Evil User]

[ImperialD]

as far as Carrie and Ella are concerned , i turned down being friends with Micheal

 

[Steinchen]

sorry but every time when i read that phrase "optional" or "optional/avoidable in the changelogs,i can not help myself to laugh a little

 

[Avaron1974]

true but Morena is not under the NDA

The NDA is irrelevant, it's barely ever come into play past interview stages.

I haven't seen it be an issue once.

As far as i'm aware the people in sexual relations outside of the company aren't under the NDA anyway. Gia is banging her son but she isn't under it yet and Samantha and her son but I don't think she is under nda either. It wouldn't make sense for her to be under.

Ella's ex is still cleared so regardless of whether you kept him as friend or not the option to share Carrie is still happening.

Morena's the only other one so far that may have other men as an option.

As for the porn stuff, I doubt that will involve any of the girls so why people are getting knotted panties over that I have no idea. It's a business, they will do what they need to to make money. Even as a lesbian I don't see how pure lesbian porn studio is financially viable. There is nothing there that isn't already being done and would hardly be a successful business venture.

I think far too many people have severely unrealistic expectations when they play these games.

Those "harems" where the women only exist to serve the man was usually slaves and usually for reproduction. They were kept under supervision and locked away. The women weren't there for their own happiness, it's hardly a fun life being shown affection maybe once a month.

Most balanced harems were poly where the women took care of each other when not with the man.

I prefer people enjoy sex and the idea of a large group of women all sat around waiting for the attention of 1 person strikes me as boring, unrealistic and depressingly shit.

I like Luke. He's secure enough to know his girl will never leave him nor ever go with another man while also knowing she can have fun on the side and still see him as the most important person in her life while she trusts him to sleep around and still love her. See, THAT is a happy relationship. Everyone has fun, there is no jealousy and everyone has their limits.

Imagine Sisterly Lust if none of the other girls had any action.

That connection they all have, the love they share wouldn't exist and the game would not be anywhere near as good as it is.

Even though they all love the MC they also have their own little things going on inside the harem for when he's busy with other women. That's how it should be. Everyone enjoying themselves.

 

[ImperialD]

dude forget it .. you dont seem to understand what i've been saying .. done with this conversation

 

[ImperialD]

you listed people who have nothing at all to do with the LP NDA .... doesn't make sense ... and you facepalm me .. comprehensive skills missing on your part ...

 

[Avaron1974]

dude forget it .. you dont seem to understand what i've been saying .. done with this conversation

You haven't said anything.

You've complained a lot, said if things get worse you'll quit playing then complained some more.

you listed people who have nothing at all to do with the LP NDA .... doesn't make sense ... and you facepalm me .. comprehensive skills missing on your part ...

I said, right at the start of the post, right there under your quote, the very first thing you would have read ...... the NDA is irrelevant. It hasn't once come into play.

You've brought it up yet not made a single valid point around it.

I facepalmed you because you've said a whole lot of nothing all day. It's just nonsense.

 

[ImperialD]

urggggghhhhhhhhh .. are you slow or what ? jeeez trying to explain something thats not to hard , your making hard , i understand you like the game , i do as well , just saying things that bug me about it and you don't seem to comprehend it .. look its ok , we can just agree to disagree

 

[KeiNineX]

I'm trying not to sound like a bitch for a change but i'll probably fail.....

It's like a lot of you are missing the point.

This isn't, nor has it ever been, a traditional harem game. They aren't his girls, they all have their own things going on and are allowed relationships of their own including with other guys. One of the things they tell them at interviews is they can have a boyfriend or husband but not sleep around.

Of course the porno will have other guys, they are in it to make money it's a business.

How fucked up would that be if only he was allowed to fuck around and Michelle wasn't, how selfish would you have to be to act like he's the one and only person any of them can ever fuck?

It's really hard to say without being insulting but some of you must have some idea how you look to the rest of us?

No?

Acting pissy because the girls want to have fun, how insecure must you be where that's an issue.

But I don´t think people are complaining about the "girls" , most people complain about Michelle situation and Rachel situation, I don´t think that people give a fuck what Carrie, Raquel or the other "side girls" do in their free time (I dont atleast).

Thing with Michelle is that she is supposed to be the main girl for us, she is supposed to be our girlfriend, not just side piece. At the beginning she actually behaved like that, she behaved like she actually cared about MC. Whenever there was a threesome with her, it felt like MC/Michelle +1. Your main focus was on her and her main focus was on you, you just brought 1 extra girl to spice it up a bit but lately her whole attitude towards MC kinda changed (Atleast I got that perception). She is more distant , she is being moody, she seem way more interested in other girls than you and now with latest scene it felt like you are the "extra", like they don´t need you there, they don´t even care about how you feel during that whole scene and then they just straight up forget about you and continue in the shower. This whole situation would be fine with me if it was with one of the side girls (except Iris and maybe Melissa) and not with our main girl.

Can´t really comment about the Rachel situation and why people are upset about it since I am not on her path.

Hope it makes sense what I tried to say.

 

[Veriko666]

I honestly don't know if anyone is acting pissy at all, criticism and discussion does not equate being pissy. I doubt most people actually have issues with lesbian action, it's how it's been played out in the game that I take issue with. To me this game had promise of being something special beyond just another porn game that has more and more girls just for sex, sadly I was let down by how things panned out, yes it does include Michelle sleeping with women but I would likely be happy with it if we actually got a chance to react as the MC. Turned out to be just another porn game, which is entirely fine if that was what devs intended. Just lost most of my interest in the game, which is a shame cause the models looked great in this one but ultimately it does not matter and I hope dev reaches their goals.

 

[Avaron1974]

Thing with Michelle is that she is supposed to be the main girl for us, she is supposed to be our girlfriend, not just side piece. At the beginning she actually behaved like that, she behaved like she actually cared about MC. Whenever there was a threesome with her, it felt like MC/Michelle +1. Your main focus was on her and her main focus was on you, you just brought 1 extra girl to spice it up a bit

And this is where my point has been and blatantly ignored....

It's a double standard.

MC is allowed to fuck whoever he wants but Michelle can only fuck the MC unless it's a threesome he is involved in and he has to be the centre of attention.

Michelle is doing what the MC does. She's having fun.

She spent all that time repressed and is now cutting loose.

However to make it fair I will agree that MC and Michelle should be more like a couple. Michelle should focus on them and he should also focus on them but that also means neither of them fuck around. Give and take relationship.

People don't want that, they want a take take relationship where they get all the sex and no one else gets anything and that's fucking weird.

They are in an open relationship and that swings both ways.

I've never agreed with possessive, jealous bollocks. If one person can have fun in a relationship then both can, it's only fair.

 

[MuffinManWantsPregnancy]

And this is where my point has been and blatantly ignored....

It's a double standard.

MC is allowed to fuck whoever he wants but Michelle can only fuck the MC unless it's a threesome he is involved in and he has to be the centre of attention.

Michelle is doing what the MC does. She's having fun.

She spent all that time repressed and is now cutting loose.

However to make it fair I will agree that MC and Michelle should be more like a couple. Michelle should focus on them and he should also focus on them but that also means neither of them fuck around. Give and take relationship.

People don't want that, they want a take take relationship where they get all the sex and no one else gets anything and that's fucking weird.

They are in an open relationship and that swings both ways.

I've never agreed with possessive, jealous bollocks. If one person can have fun in a relationship then both can, it's only fair.

Well then obviously harems are not for you lol. Not really why you're kink-shaming just because you don't get it. The whole point of harems is that YES the girls are obsessed or in love with the male protagonist. Nobody else. He is the center of their universe. It's kind of the point. . I don't go on NTR games and say, "Holy shit! Why does everyone get to have fun with the Male NPCs but not the Male player! This is an outrage!" LOL fuckin' hell.

I don't give a shit if there's sharing content. If that's someone's cup of tea, then I say have at it. The fact of the matter is, we were told we can choose (not forced) whether to participate in that content or not. However, no matter what there are instances where it's forced.

 

[Avaron1974]

The whole point of harems is that YES the girls are obsessed or in love with the male protagonist.

No it isn't.

Harems are poly relationships with 1 man and a group of women.

Those with 1 man and the women don't ever touch anyone else were slaves.

What you want is a slave harem not an actual harem and that's not what this game is nor has ever been.

You can argue and facepalm and whine but this is an open relationship, has been from the start. It's no one else's fault you can't grasp that.

 

[MuffinManWantsPregnancy]

No it isn't.

Harems are poly relationships with 1 man and a group of women.

Those with 1 man and the women don't ever touch anyone else were slaves.

What you want is a slave harem not an actual harem and that's not what this game is nor has ever been.

You can argue and facepalm and whine but this is an open relationship, has been from the start. It's no one else's fault you can't grasp that.

Let's just agree to disagree then.

It doesn't change the fact that Iris is still best girl.

Unless she wants to get gangbanged too.

 

[Avaron1974]

Let's just agree to disagree then.

It doesn't change the fact that Iris is still best girl.

Unless she wants to get gangbanged too.

Pretty sure Iris said she just wants him.

She did say she loves him and also said she doesn't want anything to with another woman, she didn't like it.

Can't see her wanting anything to do with anyone else.

 

[MuffinManWantsPregnancy]

Pretty sure Iris said she just wants him.

She did say she loves him and also said she doesn't want anything to with another woman, she didn't like it.

Can't see her wanting anything to do with anyone else.

True, but we also heard that exact same thing from Michelle at one point.

 

[ProofreadingRUS]

Wow just finished the game. I was hoping it would never end. It was that good.
I still can't believe it has 2 proofreaders and couldn't do a more thorough job.
I usually go over the script twice for mistakes and a 3rd time for improvisation.
It kinda looked like they went over the script only once.
Other then that the game was great. Hope to see more soon.....peace.

 

[ImperialD]

Michelle is doing what the MC does. She's having fun.

Michelle said in her own words that MC is the only man she will have sex with ... pay attention

 

[Mikuby]

The NDA is irrelevant, it's barely ever come into play past interview stages.

I haven't seen it be an issue once.

As far as i'm aware the people in sexual relations outside of the company aren't under the NDA anyway. Gia is banging her son but she isn't under it yet and Samantha and her son but I don't think she is under nda either. It wouldn't make sense for her to be under.

Ella's ex is still cleared so regardless of whether you kept him as friend or not the option to share Carrie is still happening.

Morena's the only other one so far that may have other men as an option.

As for the porn stuff, I doubt that will involve any of the girls so why people are getting knotted panties over that I have no idea. It's a business, they will do what they need to to make money. Even as a lesbian I don't see how pure lesbian porn studio is financially viable. There is nothing there that isn't already being done and would hardly be a successful business venture.

I think far too many people have severely unrealistic expectations when they play these games.

Those "harems" where the women only exist to serve the man was usually slaves and usually for reproduction. They were kept under supervision and locked away. The women weren't there for their own happiness, it's hardly a fun life being shown affection maybe once a month.

Most balanced harems were poly where the women took care of each other when not with the man.

I prefer people enjoy sex and the idea of a large group of women all sat around waiting for the attention of 1 person strikes me as boring, unrealistic and depressingly shit.

I like Luke. He's secure enough to know his girl will never leave him nor ever go with another man while also knowing she can have fun on the side and still see him as the most important person in her life while she trusts him to sleep around and still love her. See, THAT is a happy relationship. Everyone has fun, there is no jealousy and everyone has their limits.

Imagine Sisterly Lust if none of the other girls had any action.

That connection they all have, the love they share wouldn't exist and the game would not be anywhere near as good as it is.

Even though they all love the MC they also have their own little things going on inside the harem for when he's busy with other women. That's how it should be. Everyone enjoying themselves.

The problem is, that what you are saying is what you enjoy in a polyrelationship game, because calling that an harem is an insult to the kink/genre. You may like it, but many like the harem genre, not the polyrelationship genre/kink. It has nothing to do with people expecting one thing, or not being fair for the girls in the harem to have fun between each other, it's part of the harem kink, the girls are there to be with the MC, to please him, to love him, the MC has some control over the things that happens in the harem, if he don't like one thing (like the girls having fun between each others) it doesn't happen, because they aren't there to please each other, neither to love each other, the harem kink goes around them being there for the MC, being in love with him and only him (or her if it's the reverse harem kink) and wanting to have sex with him, not each other.

Polyamore is a different kink than the harem one, so you shouldn't try to imposse/appeal to those that like one kink and say "but it's better if they fuck between the girls in the harem because they have fun that way". That's not the harem kink, so I think that you wouldn't be saying to people that like a kink like gay/sharing/lesbian/exibition that, "yes their kink is nice and all, but for you is boring and they should just fuck each other, because you like it".

It has nothing to do with people having unrealistic expectations when they play these games and more with those expectations are expected in a game tagged as harem, not poly relationship. Again totally different kinks, you may find the harem kink boring, but it's a kink, don't try to say it's the same as the poly because it's not, it's like saying netori and netorare is the same, when they can't be more different.

 

[Mikuby]

No it isn't.

Harems are poly relationships with 1 man and a group of women.

Those with 1 man and the women don't ever touch anyone else were slaves.

What you want is a slave harem not an actual harem and that's not what this game is nor has ever been.

You can argue and facepalm and whine but this is an open relationship, has been from the start. It's no one else's fault you can't grasp that.

Again that's not how the harem kink work, you have a whole new deffinition of the kink that's based on the polyrelationship, and harem and polyrelationship aren't the same, in one all are in love between each other, in the other they are in love with the MC. It isn't normal that someone wanting to be in an harem, that is interested in the MC that is a male, someone that was a straight woman all her life, will then turn to be bisexual just beacuse you want to see them fucking. That's ok if you are playing a polyrelationship game, but an harem game isn't about that. The problem is that many people don't mind lesbian sex, so they are ok and even like games with "harem" endings where they are all fucking each other, like SL, but again it is labelled wrong as harem, since they aren't only interested in the MC but between each other. It's like calling cheating and being in an open-relationship the same thing, it isn't, then don't use the harem kink wrongly.

Also you enjoy lesbian sex, being lesbian yourself, I for example don't like lesbian sex in harem games, real harem games, unless I have a say in it happening or not, because what it's the logical reasons of saying you have an "harem" if at the end of the day the are fucking each other more than you as the MC, that is poly relationship and if it's your kink good for you. But you shouldn't try to change one kink ,harem, for other, polyrelationship, just because you like it more or thinks it's fair for the npcs.

 

[Avaron1974]

But you shouldn't try to change one kink ,harem, for other, polyrelationship, just because you like it more or thinks it's fair for the npcs.

I'm not the one trying to change anything, you are.

The game is already set how I like it, I have no complaints. Some of you are trying to project your own kink onto a game that isn't catering to it. This isn't your harem, it's a full poly relationship.

Everything here is already great for me, i'm not trying to change a damn thing. I was trying to make some of you understand that this isn't a one man takes all game but you seem resistant to accept it.

I'm past the point of giving a shit now. The game is set how it is, accept it or don't it's on you.

The harem tag is there because there is no poly one.

It's been this way from the start, it's not suddenly been sprung on you that the girls like to have fun. We've had a lot of updates now with the girls having fun it must have sunk in that it's not going to change, it surely must have, no one is that oblivious.

Hopefully you find something that fits your kink. But this has been the single mot pointless debate i've ever had on a forum and i've been shitposting for years.

I tried, several times, to make it clear how the game is yet some of you keep banging on about this harem kink which isn't how this game works no matter how hard you will it.

It's never going to be a point we will find common ground on. I can't say I see where you are coming from because I find your view of harems to be weird as fuck and would make any game boring as shit.

So what i'm going to do now is put my lil feet up, listen to some Lindsey Stirling and pretend none of this conversation happened.