VN Ren'Py Luna Reloaded [v0.21 P3] [Frozen Synapse]

[Stan5851]

I tried Luna's fall From Grace but don't really like it. The story seem to be fall in to the same fem protag AVN trope where the mc got blackmail into to doing something and your choice are resist=less sex scenes or submit = more sex scenes. Not something I want to do.

NukaCola, nope, you misunderstand..LFFG is just that rare nugget that sets this game apart from the legion of “happy slut simulators” present in the genre of AVN with a female protagonist. Essentially, you have 3 different paths with multiple branching paths where every decision matters.

You can end up with 14 different endings, although there is only one canon route/ending (according to the LFFG developer himself) here - BadAss Bitch (Dom route). And it has to be said that by playing this path, you won't be deprived of sex, but your Luna will be the one who sets the rules...She'll decide who and how to have sex with, she's going to be as proactive as possible, dictating the rules to the world, not adjusting to them.

You'll be amazed to see how the game ends up if your Luna strictly adheres to dominant behavior and doesn't fall for the tricks and deceptions of some characters..So I still advise you to go through at least the canon BadAss bitch route to understand the whole story of this game universe. It will also give you a much better idea of what's going on in this world and how we arrived at the state of the world that you can see in Luna Reloaded.

As for Diatima Isekai - there's an insanely sexy heroine with unique looks and a pretty exciting storyline. However, after the great success of LFFG and Luna-Raven, players didn't take to the new game very well. And a big part in this negative perception was the poorly implemented sandbox, with a bunch of awkward and repetitive actions.

In the end, all this led to the fact that the dev ended the game early, but still managed to complete the story of this world, thus preparing a logical explanation for the state of the world/planet that we have in Luna Reloaded and logically explaining why Luna-Raven in the new game at the start does not have those prohibitive capabilities that she had in the canon final of LFFG. All in all, if you have enough tolerance for not-so-good sandboxes and you have the same URM at hand (to see all the sсenes in 1 playthrough), I'd still suggest you play Diatima Isekai. (after LFFG)

 

[wildride69]

I tried Luna's fall From Grace but don't really like it. The story seem to be fall in to the same fem protag AVN trope where the mc got blackmail into to doing something and your choice are resist=less sex scenes or submit = more sex scenes. Not something I want to do.

I think they balanced out LFFG pretty well in the end, Your opinion isn't wrong per se, but Luna can be a Total Boss Bitch that commands respect from everyone around her while kicking ass. Lots of choices and creative paths on how you get to the end, plus both paths give you a lot of Erotic choices.

I love taking her down the submissive path just to see what twisted scenarios the dev has for the character, but it's super satisfying to play the Boss chick and take no shit from anyone.

 

[wildride69]

NukaCola, nope, you misunderstand..LFFG is just that rare nugget that sets this game apart from the legion of “happy slut simulators” present in the genre of AVN with a female protagonist. Essentially, you have 3 different paths with multiple branching paths where every decision matters.

You can end up with 14 different endings, although there is only one canon route/ending (according to the LFFG developer himself) here - BadAss Bitch (Dom route). And it has to be said that by playing this path, you won't be deprived of sex, but your Luna will be the one who sets the rules...She'll decide who and how to have sex with, she's going to be as proactive as possible, dictating the rules to the world, not adjusting to them.

You'll be amazed to see how the game ends up if your Luna strictly adheres to dominant behavior and doesn't fall for the tricks and deceptions of some characters..So I still advise you to go through at least the canon BadAss bitch route to understand the whole story of this game universe. It will also give you a much better idea of what's going on in this world and how we arrived at the state of the world that you can see in Luna Reloaded.

I agree with this part.

 

[Stan5851]

Hi, is there a way to temporarily increase dominance? Mb with cheats or file redacting?
Don't understand this check system completely, my dominance is not much lower than submission, but seems like i can not pass through checking

In case if someone face the same problem, you should find 'dominance' or 'submission' in variable names

Yeah, URM is a useful tool, but this game has no problem scoring dominance pts if your Luna-Raven kicks everyone's ass and doesn't bend to anyone's will. In the game, all Dom decisions are highlighted in red, and sub decisions are highlighted in blue...So it's pretty hard to slip up and pick the wrong thing here.

 

[Ryulong Drago]

Hi, is there a way to temporarily increase dominance? Mb with cheats or file redacting?
Don't understand this check system completely, my dominance is not much lower than submission, but seems like i can not pass through checking

It's worth saying that in this sequel, things have been mostly binary so far. Meaning you're either doing a dominant or submissive playthrough. There's no real point to mixing those two except to chase or avoid specific scenes that you want/don't want to see. Apart from that, there's no mechanical or story payoff for a mixed Luna and you might get into a situation of being locked off some dominant choices. As far as I remember, it's mostly the dominant choices that are locked behind a stat requirement.

 

[Maviarab]

Anyone wanting to do the full experience, play Diatima's up to where the sandbox starts (to get the general idea of the plot) and then just stop playing it, knowing your protector is taken over by the aliens, everything goes to shit and a nuclear war breaks out forcing Diatima into a cryo stasis pod...then start this and you'll be up to date. The sandbox was pointless, badly iumplemented and annoying.

 

[NukaCola]

It's worth saying that in this sequel, things have been mostly binary so far. Meaning you're either doing a dominant or submissive playthrough. There's no real point to mixing those two except to chase or avoid specific scenes that you want/don't want to see. Apart from that, there's no mechanical or story payoff for a mixed Luna and you might get into a situation of being locked off some dominant choices. As far as I remember, it's mostly the dominant choices that are locked behind a stat requirement.

Hmm. I want to play dominant but I don't want to be mean to everyone so I choose some sub choice here and there. Is that bad? So its better to only focus on one?

 

[Maviarab]

Hmm. I want to play dominant but I don't want to be mean to everyone so I choose some sub choice here and there. Is that bad? So its better to only focus on one?

It's a Luna game...most people are not worth being nice to

 

[Ryulong Drago]

Hmm. I want to play dominant but I don't want to be mean to everyone so I choose some sub choice here and there. Is that bad? So its better to only focus on one?

Well, as I said, the more you mix, the more you risk not being able to pass a dom check, which can result in forcing you into an unfavorable outcome for Luna. So a sub choice here and there should be fine, but getting close to a 50/50 split is risky.
I do understand if you miss the hero path from LFFG. The dev deliberately made the sequel simpler because LFFG was getting out of hand in terms of complexity, especially towards the end. So now we have only dominant and submissive stats, but the dominant stat is also kind of the evil stat while submissive is the good stat and you can't really change it.
Then again as we've seen in the last update, Luna ritually murders Mordred's retinue in order to feed her divine powers in both paths, so I can see some people being squeamish about that scenario on a submissive playthrough. Personally, I think the intent isn't to think about this at all in terms of good vs evil. Luna's adversaries aren't good people and Luna isn't Batman.

 

[wildride69]

Hmm. I want to play dominant but I don't want to be mean to everyone so I choose some sub choice here and there. Is that bad? So its better to only focus on one?

No real Right or Wrong way imo, just do what feels best to you.

 

[Birdnman993]

Hmm. I want to play dominant but I don't want to be mean to everyone so I choose some sub choice here and there. Is that bad? So its better to only focus on one?

Well, from my perspective, in this installment we have only been bad with trash people so far, in the previous one we have been bad with everyone which is a shame, here at the moment we are on the right track without blatantly using the tribe for the benefit of Luna as in the other game.

 

[turncoatvolatile]

Well, from my perspective, in this installment we have only been bad with trash people so far, in the previous one we have been bad with everyone which is a shame, here at the moment we are on the right track without blatantly using the tribe for the benefit of Luna as in the other game.

Agreed, the only choice when she can be arguably bad with 'good people' is if she picks the baron (not puppet baron) at the end of chapter 1, forcing the Moonlight girls to leave the city, but then again there are alternatives to that.

 

[Stan5851]

Well, from my perspective, in this installment we have only been bad with trash people so far, in the previous one we have been bad with everyone which is a shame, here at the moment we are on the right track without blatantly using the tribe for the benefit of Luna as in the other game.

Basically, you're right, here we (on the Dom route) are doing good, punishing evil people severely and helping those who are vulnerable and defenseless..However, I don't really understand why some players, including yourself, sometimes mention that Luna-Raven in the LFFG finale (BadAss bitch route) supposedly mistreated the tribe. As I recall, there was still some choice there that allowed us to not force the Hellions to become vulnerable and submissive to those men in the gang.

 

[turncoatvolatile]

Basically, you're right, here we (on the Dom route) are doing good, punishing evil people severely and helping those who are vulnerable and defenseless..However, I don't really understand why some players, including yourself, sometimes mention that Luna-Raven in the LFFG finale (BadAss bitch route) supposedly mistreated the tribe. As I recall, there was still some choice there that allowed us to not force the Hellions to become vulnerable and submissive to those men in the gang.

Yeah, if I remember correctly, if you picked the Chieftain, they kinda shared power with the dudes. I think the issue is there was not a way to get rid of the guys (don't remember how they were called)

 

[Stan5851]

Yeah, if I remember correctly, if you picked the Chieftain, they kinda shared power with the dudes. I think the issue is there was not a way to get rid of the guys (don't remember how they were called)

Yeah, but AFAIR, we can get rid of the guys beforehand...At least, I still have a screenshot of Luna dealing with this gang that decided to betray her.

However, I don't remember what happens to the Hellion tribe in this case.

 

[Maviarab]

Yeah, but AFAIR, we can get rid of the guys beforehand...At least, I still have a screenshot of Luna dealing with this gang that decided to betray her.
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However, I don't remember what happens to the Hellion tribe in this case.

We can yes but IIRC (really need to play again) the Hellions don't end up in a good state.

 

[afterlights]

(Prepare for 2 pages of people defending Diatima's Isekai but trust me the character as written written in that title was horrible and super whiny.)

Robbed of any Professor Taylor action in that one. Robbed!

 

[Birdnman993]

Basically, you're right, here we (on the Dom route) are doing good, punishing evil people severely and helping those who are vulnerable and defenseless..However, I don't really understand why some players, including yourself, sometimes mention that Luna-Raven in the LFFG finale (BadAss bitch route) supposedly mistreated the tribe. As I recall, there was still some choice there that allowed us to not force the Hellions to become vulnerable and submissive to those men in the gang.

The canon ending is the badass one, so the chief of the tribe in almost any ending ends up being a onehole for the "brothers", although the chief was not innocent or so cooperative does not mean that she knew how to give her up just to have the favor of the brothers of the tribe, throughout LFFG the dark queen always forces us to take advantage of everyone, even people who feel affection, gratitude or loyalty to Luna and that personally creates a conflict for me.

In this new story we can be tough but not over the line, especially with Jirvah.

Yeah, but AFAIR, we can get rid of the guys beforehand...At least, I still have a screenshot of Luna dealing with this gang that decided to betray her.
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However, I don't remember what happens to the Hellion tribe in this case.

This was a sweet moment, but this happened only after the fall of the tribe, and only after selling their territory that she promised them for more money, although satisfying that is only one more testimony of how Luna betrays those she works with.