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Chris2041

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Hey everyone,

Thanks so much for the feedback! and I’m sorry if the ending of the latest update disappointed some of you and I’m sorry if I didn't use the right tag. Honestly I didn’t label it NTR as I interpreted the tag differently and I associated the definition more with the japanese meaning of NTR just like someone mentioned before. Either way, lesson learned as a developer and I’ll try to be more careful about these types of things in the future. Some of you have already given me some suggestions about the ending itself which I appreciate and most likely this will be addressed and I will make some edits about that scene in particular. But just to be clear, it is not my intention to make a game about being cucked, Jess wasn’t trying to steal Lucy away from MC or anything like that. My mistake was that in the original script I had them giving each other a peck you know like close girl friends do sometimes, but of course this being an adult game I think I exaggerated it too much and went too far and it was definitely NOT written with the intention of making the MC jealous, again lesson learned. At the same time I have to be honest and say that there will be groupsex/threesome scenes in the future and girls will interact with each other, this has been hinted since the beginning especially in the case of Jess and Lucy (Is in the prologue and the menu art) I don’t think I’m spoiling anything by saying that both Jess and Lucy will become MC’s girlfriends and will have a polyamorous relationship at some point, Like I have mentioned before it will all be from the MC viewpoint and I don’t think it will be avoidable as I don’t have the resources and time to create branching and complex story paths (It’s a one person team). I don’t know if it's much of an excuse but this is my first attempt at creating an adult visual novel and it is also a learning process for me (So far it’s really fun!). One thing I must say it’s that rather than worry about this tag or the other, my intention since the beginning was really just to write a story and create my own vision and I will continue to do so.
Finally let me say I’m already working on the next update and I will address your concerns.

Thank you everyone
The problem itself isnt only the exagerated kiss is that she sends away the MC to start making out whit the other girl when she was in a date whit MC WTF this feel really NTR we have to belive that the blonde girls also love us and dosent want to steal the other girl a very bad way to introduce a lesbian relationship i hope you have at least the common sense of not maling the MC tht she aceppts it righ of the bat more that they were doing it behind his back
 
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Chris2041

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most people (not all) have absolutely no problem if the girls have fun together after they were with the mc and are part of the harem
Yeah pretty much This more this game having the harem tag very weird choice this was one of the more toxic nuclear ways for introduce lesbian content and i see a lot of games fucking up doing it
 
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Simulacrum29

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The problem itself isnt only the exagerated kiss is that she sends away the MC to start making out whit the other girl when she was in a date whit MC WTF this feel really NTR we have to belive that the blonde girls also love us and dosent want to steal the other girl a very bad way to introduce a lesbian relationship i hope you have at least the common sense of not maling the MC tht she aceppts it righ of the bat more that they were doing it behind his back
yeah man the disrespect show for MC in that scene would be grounds to send her packing, i would just take my jacket and let her come back to an empty flat, because i would be gone.

Edit: so the dev has something to work with, its not only a betrayal but one with massiv disrespect if she would do it because MC told her so and she would say "kinky, I'm down for that" it would be something entirely different and the scene would be fine, because its now neither a betrayal nor the disrespect she's now displaying. but that's just my opinion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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AL.d

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10 mins in and I think this is missing the kinetic novel tag. Unless it becomes an actual game later on.
 
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zoe_meat

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My best advice to a new Dev is if you plan to have any contreversal content and if you ever been on any other threads on this site you know what those are, make them avoidable. NTR, Rape, Swinging, Incest, Harem, Lesbian/Bi, Dom ect.... also if you are going to have Lesbian/Bi content in a Harem don't have the Li be in a relationship with each other and for them to love each other as much as they do MC also the Li to never interact sexually with out MC. Some people like it some don't so make it avoidable if planned that way if people want to see it they can and if they don't then they can avoid it.
Seems there aren't real man of culture facepalming this perfect description of a harem impregnation, everything avoidable not implemented but you can opt out if you chose. Some like les some don't sex without you is cheat sharing ntr anything that blocks my cock is unacceptable. You like your type and so do we your not left out neither are we best of both worlds how I see it.
 
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Hexogun

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Honestly, that ending was not the best. But you can work with that. Make the MC leave. Cause honestly I feel like most guys would. I would think she payed for the lapdance to steal the other girl away. The girls should of course see him leaving and be texting him all night and into the morning to kinda explain what went down during that lapdance.

Its fixable just that ending left a sour taste. So now you can use this to end a little spicy or drama.
 

TigerWolfe

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Finally had a chance to play the most recent update and holy shit there's a bunch of crybabies in here. 1 MC has been with another woman since starting things with Lucia so hypocrisy much. 2 Jess and Lucia are both with MC at the start of the game, and this is the story of how that comes to be... like cry harder ya fucking weirdos. Ugh. Y'all harem extremists will be the death of my sanity.

I dig the hell out of your game so far dev keep keepin' on.
 

Hateitfuckit

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Finally had a chance to play the most recent update and holy shit there's a bunch of crybabies in here. 1 MC has been with another woman since starting things with Lucia so hypocrisy much. 2 Jess and Lucia are both with MC at the start of the game, and this is the story of how that comes to be... like cry harder ya fucking weirdos. Ugh. Y'all harem extremists will be the death of my sanity.

I dig the hell out of your game so far dev keep keepin' on.
Nah, we are just not into Ntr/getting cucked. Trying to tietoe around it isn't going to change what bs that was. Bitch literally manipulated MC to fuck. I already lost all the interest in her after that scene and not all harem games need to have forced lesbianism. Also, it not being an extremist when you show your disappointment with a particular scene. Plus just because you like it doesn't mean everybody has to like it.
 

ThaDude1977

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I guess I should have answer the lesbian/bi content question better. In all honestly I don't think I can make it optional since it will derail some characters motivations/story arcs and would end up with a disjointed narrative. I'm going to try my best to make it optional when I can once this becomes more clear as the story progresses.
Cheers everyone.
So this won't really be a Harem Game? Since It would derail some characters motivations. That sounds like your saying their motivation is the girls will join harem just to lick pussy and not to be with just the MC. Look if this one of those everybody loves everybody that is NOT a Harem. And women don't have to be Bisexual to want to enter a Harem. Harem doesn't = Lesbian/Bi the trope is over used. If you want lesbian content just because it Hawwt then make some side characters that is not Li and show them fucking each other and leave the Li to the MC.
 

OnlyWorthyDevsMakeMoney

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After reading all this thread I want to say my opinion about it: I don't care if the LIs bang eachother, as long as prior to that they entered the harem and first of all bang with the MC. As long as there is no other man involved, it's fine. One can argue that this is not a Harem but a Poly, and it's fine, as long as there are no other men involved. IF, instead, a girl enters the "group" just to be able to bang some girls without touching the MC (because maybe lesbian stuff is your kink), then is very similar to NTR, which is a red flag.
 

BigTTiger

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Will this game be updated anymore not griping or anything genuinely curious because I like it so far and yes that ending scene like the MC said WTF but that's kind of how cliffhangers work, they keep you guessing till the next episode or season wondering what will happen when it returns so dev if you have to make some stuff avoidable fine but don't change the script or the story please.
 

kinvar

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lmao gotta luv them ppl that whine about forced this , then turn around and say its only okay if it happends only like we want.
there was no such thing and ntr happening nor was their any stealing of the LI at all .
just a woman wanting to have her ( future man) to have some fun on a fun date while they hang out and things simply progressed into a kiss .
all that ntr and you all thinking that she is stealing , is nothing but you're own assumptions .

not to mention this is the dev's game and its their decision how they want their story and progression told .
if you dont like it then just dont play it . stop putting your own assumptions on things especially if you don't know how things are going to develop

dont worry about them you do you dev and the ppl that like it will keep following
i for one loved it so far .
keep it up , you are doing great .
 
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Jimskeleton

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lmao gotta luv them ppl that whine about forced this , then turn around and say its only okay if it happends only like we want.
there was no such thing and ntr happening nor was their any stealing of the LI at all .
just a woman wanting to have her ( future man) to have some fun on a fun date while they hang out and things simply progressed into a kiss .
all that ntr and you all thinking that she is stealing , is nothing but you're own assumptions .

not to mention this is the dev's game and its their decision how they want their story and progression told .
if you dont like it then just dont play it . stop putting your own assumptions on things especially if you don't know how things are going to develop

dont worry about them you do you dev and the ppl that like it will keep following
i for one loved it so far .
keep it up , you are doing great .
I think you need to add an extra paragraph or two, you haven't quite gone full simp just yet.
 

kinvar

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lol sure kid . i just dont get triggered and offended by every little thing like you .
how about you actually make one yourself and do something for a change , rather then whine on something you get for free .
anyway keep dreaming kid
 

kinvar

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lol im not though im just calling you out for your hypocrisy , not once did i whine about anything . not my fault you get triggerd so ridiculously easy . and yet again you assume things without having a clue . but go ahead and keep proving my point for me ;)
 
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Jimskeleton

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lol im not though im just calling you out for your hypocrisy , not once did i whine about anything . not my fault you get triggerd so ridiculously easy . and yet again you assume things without having a clue . but go ahead and keep proving my point for me ;)
You don't even have the balls to quote me, and all you've done is whine, you're literally still doing it, but I'm done, people like you aren't worth the time, so you can keep yapping and simping from the ignore list, also do everybody else a favour and learn this thing called spelling and grammar, some extra education might be necessary for you.
 

NebulousShooter

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Honestly, if that situation (ending of 0.3.1) happened to me IRL I'd get my shit and leave and on the way home both get blocked.
Surprise threesomes, with zero discussions beforehand are worst idea ever. Fiction, or reality. The lack of respect in ambushing your partner, the fact that they started before he got there, the predatory and deceitful undertone...How devs keep manage to turn off a lesbian content lover like me so often is insane. Its like they can't think 2 seconds into the future about how their setups is perceived, what implications they have on the characters and the relationships :HideThePain:
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But it is from the perspective of the MC. Even not taking this admittedly vague stipulation, the MC is the one getting cucked or not in the story. Not whoever is playing it. Immersion only goes so deep and there is a wide range of mixed feelings and opinions. if things were take from then player's perspective. Some would say a 3some of any kind is netorare. Suddenly every thread that has FFM in it gets the ntr and swinging(yes ive seen people that want this) tag which just isn't indicative of what is in the game, much less matching the actual definitions of the words. People put their own subjective perspective above objective fact all the time. Someone doesnt like the way the MC responds to a another npc? LIMP DICK MC CUCK MC. NTR NTR.IGNORE.

I know you have seen it. You know how it is, any content that rubs anyone the wrong way is apparently X or Y tag regardless of what it actually is just because they don't like it.
So if the MC likes sitting in the cuck chair, it shouldn't be tagged as cuck content because the player might not like it and call it cuckoldry, but MC calls it love :Kappa:

How bout when the girlfriend fucks behind his back and the MC doesn't learn about it the entire game, by your logic it should not have NTR tag. You understand how backwards that is?:WaitWhat: It IS about the player, it IS about the narrative purpose of a scene, what emotion is designed to evoke in the reader, what sort of audience is targeting, that might coincide with the MC default reaction, or might not.
lmao gotta luv them ppl that whine about forced this , then turn around and say its only okay if it happends only like we want.
there was no such thing and ntr happening nor was their any stealing of the LI at all .
just a woman wanting to have her ( future man) to have some fun on a fun date while they hang out and things simply progressed into a kiss .
all that ntr and you all thinking that she is stealing , is nothing but you're own assumptions .

not to mention this is the dev's game and its their decision how they want their story and progression told .
if you dont like it then just dont play it . stop putting your own assumptions on things especially if you don't know how things are going to develop

dont worry about them you do you dev and the ppl that like it will keep following
i for one loved it so far .
keep it up , you are doing great .
change Jess into a man and retype all that, 'its just your bro kissing your gf while you are on a date with her, nothing to overreact about', am I right?
obviously, the dev will write it so that the MC will love seeing them kiss but to me (the player) it doesn't even matter as that one poor decision killed any interest I had in those characters, a clear stab in the back to the MC who will love it in the next update doesn't mean the player will.
This could have been easily avoided if Jess and MC had already gone on a date but they haven't, so far she is just another one of the bros. and if your bro did that you'd kill him and Lucy would be on the street where she belongs, but no the double standard is crazy.
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Honestly, that ending was not the best. But you can work with that. Make the MC leave. Cause honestly I feel like most guys would. I would think she payed for the lapdance to steal the other girl away. The girls should of course see him leaving and be texting him all night and into the morning to kinda explain what went down during that lapdance.

Its fixable just that ending left a sour taste. So now you can use this to end a little spicy or drama.
Unfortunately it won't bring people back, but this is the only way to 'fix' it outside of total rewrite and its 100 times better than MC just being ok with it.
 
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