Yes. NTR is has a very specific definition. People are 100% correct with that specific definition.
However, say, if we’re kids and I’m sick. I give you money for an ice cream cone plus extra for one for yourself. I say:
“I don’t care what flavour it is, as long it’s a fruit flavour.”
You come back with a tomato flavoured ice cream… you fucking well know what you did.
Anyone laughing at me after doing that when I’m sick, that would have ended the friendship.
Ditto with others on this board re NTR or any other tag really… on either side of the arguments.
Yes, some NTR haters are whiners. Totally admit that.
Others got hurt bad IRL by RL NTR and don’t want to fucking relive that in a game, thank you very fucking much… and I’m pretty sure you know that just as clearly as “tomato is a fruit.”
Just saying…
EDIT = Addendum: If you hate NTR that much, do what I do. Delete whatever game it is. Put a note on notepad that says "NTR-NO TAG" next to the Dev name. Don't play any other games by that Dev. Don't announce that you did that here and move on with your day. And yeah, I've been holding on to that tomato story for a while. First board I've posted it in.
However, say, if we’re kids and I’m sick. I give you money for an ice cream cone plus extra for one for yourself. I say:
“I don’t care what flavour it is, as long it’s a fruit flavour.”
You come back with a tomato flavoured ice cream… you fucking well know what you did.
Anyone laughing at me after doing that when I’m sick, that would have ended the friendship.
Ditto with others on this board re NTR or any other tag really… on either side of the arguments.
Yes, some NTR haters are whiners. Totally admit that.
Others got hurt bad IRL by RL NTR and don’t want to fucking relive that in a game, thank you very fucking much… and I’m pretty sure you know that just as clearly as “tomato is a fruit.”
Just saying…
EDIT = Addendum: If you hate NTR that much, do what I do. Delete whatever game it is. Put a note on notepad that says "NTR-NO TAG" next to the Dev name. Don't play any other games by that Dev. Don't announce that you did that here and move on with your day. And yeah, I've been holding on to that tomato story for a while. First board I've posted it in.
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The game you're referring to is trouble in the arena
Yea....like I said, it's not how I would have written it at all and it does look sus. I'm generally not a fan of cheap cliffhangers and this seems like it's one of those. Not having it's intended effect...Or maybe it is since we(I) just cant seem to stop discussing it.
He's probably just surprised and will have the best night of his life next update. Unlikely to get the tag and I don't think it should if things play out the way I think they will. Doesn't fit. Its gotta be some form of malicious action of that nature towards the MC. Two girls snogging before eventually sucking off the MC together doesn't qualify. If it's not something you would see a typical antagonist do to cause tension of that nature then it probably doesn't fit the tag. Dont think there are any antagonists that have the hots for the MC and want to jump into bed with him and does this lmao. There I think there could possibly be hentai manga with that plot...Japanese mangaka put a spin on everything.
Oh shit actually no there is a game like that on this site. The MC is little wimp and a futa succubus wants him for herself so she goes around seducing all the women around him so eventually his only option left will be her. Now thats an insane twist lol.
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Oh, so a cockblock and a beaver dam in one fell swoop what a hell of a cliffhanger my guess is it's setting up for something and maybe mc is overreacting but still being blindsided like that is still pretty shitty.
There’s a right way to setup a threesome and there’s a wrong way to setup a threesome, this is definitely a wrong way imo. Idk why so many devs always make it feel like borderline ntr every time cause it doesn’t have to be like that at all.
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Damm you are really trying to find excuses to not tag a game correctly thats really suspicius.......Like I said a few times in the thread. It all depends on how the MC will react in the next update based on our current tag system. I have a feeling the MC is probably pissed, or at the very least super annoyed; but since the dev finished the update before we found out, I can't tag it. If the MC is shocked then gets horned up, it's just cheating. If he is shocked then gets annoyed by it, then it's NTR.
Once the new tagging system is in place, people will be a lot more clear on what is, and what isn't in games. We're rewriting current tags and adding new ones based off of more Western meanings, rather than the Japanese meaning of NTR.
At least you're calm
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Ah yes, using our current tag system is suspicious, got it. I even said when they new system starts, or depending on how the next game update starts, the game will get tagged NTR.
When ks the new system tag that everyone is talking coming ?
Everyone myself included is pissed about the surprise content whitout a warning i think is better put the tag to avoid trouble and headaches but what do i know to tell you the true mi interest in this game die faster than the people in the hamas war
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No I completely understand where people are coming from. The new tagging system is coming soon as possible, but it also includes a lot more work than just tags.
You can read more about the new tags here.
It looks like the author used hair from his ass for his hairstyle, and to create the appearance of a beard, the stubble of the poor pig was used, it lasted me for a couple of minutes of the game, the hero’s appearance guarantees the inevitability of 100% NTR, that’s what I’m like, a drunken bastard
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I agree. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but just bcz a certain scene is written badly or there was a minor fuckup in the story, it doesn't mean the game needs to be tagged as NTR or purged from site, especially this one, where it's clearly shown at the beginning that the MC will be in throuple with Jess and Lucia. If that was the case, then according to this 'sound' logic, each and every incest game should be tagged as NTR by default, since the mom 'cucks' her son by giving birth to him and his sisters, and she 'cucks' him again whenever she sleeps with his dad off-screen, no matter if he's interested in her or not, which is ridiculous.
Anyone not liking some stuff devs add in a game they kept tabs on or are interested in supporting should wait to hear the devs' explanations about the misunderstanding in question first and only after that decide whether the game's still worth supporting and/or playing. I don't like surprise or forced NTR either, but in this case, I'm willing to hear the dev's explanation first before dropping the game and ignoring this thread. Just sayin'.
Don't rush to add the tag before the dev addresses this lil issue/misunderstanding. We don't need the cucks joining the 'debate' too after all the whining about that scene. The dev needs to make everything involving the LIs completely optional and avoidable so only the players who like this type of content can get it. Don't know why anyone would refuse a throuple with their woman and her friend or just another one, but to each their own.
Let's all calm down and wait on the next update or the dev's explanation to why the lap dance and Jess sticking her tongue in Lucia's mouth are unavoidable, cuz the player should always choose if they want certain things to happen or not. Right now, all the complaining is pointless, bcz the dev probably misunderstood what his fans really like and went for the usual "all women are lesbians by default" porn trope to avoid a certain tag, but he should take a few minutes of his time and address this issue before he loses any more supporters and fans.
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The scene which people argued can be better if the dev add a few scene and dialogue to build up the anticipation of the 'surprise'.I agree. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but just bcz a certain scene is written badly or there was a minor fuckup in the story, it doesn't mean the game needs to be tagged as NTR or purged from site, especially this one, where it's clearly shown at the beginning that the MC will be in throuple with Jess and Lucia. If that was the case, then according to this 'sound' logic, each and every incest game should be tagged as NTR by default, since the mom 'cucks' her son by giving birth to him and his sisters, and she 'cucks' him again whenever she sleeps with his dad off-screen, no matter if he's interested in her or not, which is ridiculous.
Anyone not liking some stuff devs add in a game they kept tabs on or are interested in supporting should wait to hear the devs' explanations about the misunderstanding in question first and only after that decide whether the game's still worth supporting and/or playing. I don't like surprise or forced NTR either, but in this case, I'm willing to hear the dev's explanation first before dropping the game and ignoring this thread. Just sayin'.
Don't rush to add the tag before the dev addresses this lil issue/misunderstanding. We don't need the cucks joining the 'debate' too after all the whining about that scene. The dev needs to make everything involving the LIs completely optional and avoidable so only the players who like this type of content can get it. Don't know why anyone would refuse a throuple with their woman and her friend or just another one, but to each their own.
Let's all calm down and wait on the next update or the dev's explanation to why the lap dance and Jess sticking her tongue in Lucia's mouth are unavoidable, cuz the player should always choose if they want certain things to happen or not. Right now, all the complaining is pointless, bcz the dev probably misunderstood what his fans really like and went for the usual "all women are lesbians by default" porn trope to avoid a certain tag, but he should take a few minutes of his time and address this issue before he loses any more supporters and fans.
For example, before the club scene, just add few dialogue that Jess imply that she would help Mc developing a threesome and will have a surprise for Mc if she is successful with Lucia. Even there is no choice for Mc to accept threescore or not, at least it will prepare players some expectation.
However, the writing gone all the way wrong for developing a threesome and have no choice for players, which lead to the fuck up cliffhanger.
Even the scene is poorly written, I still believe the Dev can explain the situation and make thing right. Cause I kinda like this game and hope the game can be completed in the future for a proper harem ending.
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obviously, the dev will write it so that the MC will love seeing them kiss but to me (the player) it doesn't even matter as that one poor decision killed any interest I had in those characters, a clear stab in the back to the MC who will love it in the next update doesn't mean the player will.
This could have been easily avoided if Jess and MC had already gone on a date but they haven't, so far she is just another one of the bros. and if your bro did that you'd kill him and Lucy would be on the street where she belongs, but no the double standard is crazy.
This could have been easily avoided if Jess and MC had already gone on a date but they haven't, so far she is just another one of the bros. and if your bro did that you'd kill him and Lucy would be on the street where she belongs, but no the double standard is crazy.
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Hey everyone,
Thanks so much for the feedback! and I’m sorry if the ending of the latest update disappointed some of you and I’m sorry if I didn't use the right tag. Honestly I didn’t label it NTR as I interpreted the tag differently and I associated the definition more with the japanese meaning of NTR just like someone mentioned before. Either way, lesson learned as a developer and I’ll try to be more careful about these types of things in the future. Some of you have already given me some suggestions about the ending itself which I appreciate and most likely this will be addressed and I will make some edits about that scene in particular. But just to be clear, it is not my intention to make a game about being cucked, Jess wasn’t trying to steal Lucy away from MC or anything like that. My mistake was that in the original script I had them giving each other a peck you know like close girl friends do sometimes, but of course this being an adult game I think I exaggerated it too much and went too far and it was definitely NOT written with the intention of making the MC jealous, again lesson learned. At the same time I have to be honest and say that there will be groupsex/threesome scenes in the future and girls will interact with each other, this has been hinted since the beginning especially in the case of Jess and Lucy (Is in the prologue and the menu art) I don’t think I’m spoiling anything by saying that both Jess and Lucy will become MC’s girlfriends and will have a polyamorous relationship at some point, Like I have mentioned before it will all be from the MC viewpoint and I don’t think it will be avoidable as I don’t have the resources and time to create branching and complex story paths (It’s a one person team). I don’t know if it's much of an excuse but this is my first attempt at creating an adult visual novel and it is also a learning process for me (So far it’s really fun!). One thing I must say it’s that rather than worry about this tag or the other, my intention since the beginning was really just to write a story and create my own vision and I will continue to do so.
Finally let me say I’m already working on the next update and I will address your concerns.
Thank you everyone
Thanks so much for the feedback! and I’m sorry if the ending of the latest update disappointed some of you and I’m sorry if I didn't use the right tag. Honestly I didn’t label it NTR as I interpreted the tag differently and I associated the definition more with the japanese meaning of NTR just like someone mentioned before. Either way, lesson learned as a developer and I’ll try to be more careful about these types of things in the future. Some of you have already given me some suggestions about the ending itself which I appreciate and most likely this will be addressed and I will make some edits about that scene in particular. But just to be clear, it is not my intention to make a game about being cucked, Jess wasn’t trying to steal Lucy away from MC or anything like that. My mistake was that in the original script I had them giving each other a peck you know like close girl friends do sometimes, but of course this being an adult game I think I exaggerated it too much and went too far and it was definitely NOT written with the intention of making the MC jealous, again lesson learned. At the same time I have to be honest and say that there will be groupsex/threesome scenes in the future and girls will interact with each other, this has been hinted since the beginning especially in the case of Jess and Lucy (Is in the prologue and the menu art) I don’t think I’m spoiling anything by saying that both Jess and Lucy will become MC’s girlfriends and will have a polyamorous relationship at some point, Like I have mentioned before it will all be from the MC viewpoint and I don’t think it will be avoidable as I don’t have the resources and time to create branching and complex story paths (It’s a one person team). I don’t know if it's much of an excuse but this is my first attempt at creating an adult visual novel and it is also a learning process for me (So far it’s really fun!). One thing I must say it’s that rather than worry about this tag or the other, my intention since the beginning was really just to write a story and create my own vision and I will continue to do so.
Finally let me say I’m already working on the next update and I will address your concerns.
Thank you everyone
That was a very bad way to introduce the polyamorus relationship is obligatory to have these two can we skip them and focus in the other characters
you shot yourself in the foot making that scene when i see the rework i see if insterested in keeping following the game but for the moment the insterest is dead
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most people (not all) have absolutely no problem if the girls have fun together after they were with the mc and are part of the harem