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Leelloominai

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funny, i look for this game almost two years later to see how to updates are going and there is a entire drama with the original artist, and how looks like the story just recently reached the old ....:(



Edit: /\/\ Annnd nope, just played the game, and not reached even closed to where was before ....

Which i should have figured.. the release is called C3 (chapter 3 i suppose), and before was in the chapter 5...... but the comment from the guy above tricked me....
(in the original, you can sex with your landlord, you can kiss sophie, there is the party... there is outfit choices ...and more, all this is not in this revamp yet..)
 
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TimoF965

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Chances of this girl sitting in front of a PC hacking away at thousands of lines of python code? Yeah... ZERO! ;)
Well, she knows that she will be getting older... and being a model is not a very reliable way to earn money. So there is a motive for doing something different.

Coding Python is not that hard at all to learn and the code you need for a VN is even less. You could go from zero to VN-hero in about three days. The only thing complex about coding a VN is the branching, but for that you don't even need any coding skills at all - although they do help.

So, the chance of her developing a new ballistic missile for canada are rather thin, but going into designing a VN only takes some good will and motivation and a story to tell. And a guy who does the art for you.
I really think she can be proud of herself for working with her head now, but her career is not that much an impossibility as you might think.
 

dolfe67

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That's quite misogynistic to tell that, even if it's true. I believe she "hacked away at thousands of lines of python (renpy) code", and that's why the first versions were rigged with bugs. Now she has a coder to help
 

jollyjoker27

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Well, she knows that she will be getting older... and being a model is not a very reliable way to earn money. So there is a motive for doing something different.

Coding Python is not that hard at all to learn and the code you need for a VN is even less. You could go from zero to VN-hero in about three days. The only thing complex about coding a VN is the branching, but for that you don't even need any coding skills at all - although they do help.

So, the chance of her developing a new ballistic missile for canada are rather thin, but going into designing a VN only takes some good will and motivation and a story to tell. And a guy who does the art for you.
I really think she can be proud of herself for working with her head now, but her career is not that much an impossibility as you might think.
Thank you for that excursion but you failed to see my point. I was merely talking time and labour, not degree of difficulty/ability.

Here´s how I see this work.

a) group of friends (or acquaintances), one guy is a coder, decides to do a game (and bulk of the work), asks female model friend to be part (face) of his project for a share of the cut, asks artist friend to do the Illustration (for a comission).
or
b) Model girl finds out about lewd games as steady stream of side-income, puts here face on it, roughly lays out a story/characters, hires a coder and an artist to do the leg work.

Personally I tend to option a) because if it was option b) I´d image she´d put herself more "out there", do more promo to bring in more Patreons, assuming this is an economic project after all.

Maybe it´s something in between or else entirely, not that it matters anyway but, bottom line:

You can be 99% sure she is not the one coding the game, which is all i suggested to begin with...

That's quite misogynistic to tell that, even if it's true. I believe she "hacked away at thousands of lines of python (renpy) code", and that's why the first versions were rigged with bugs. Now she has a coder to help
Misogynistic, huh?
 

moskyx

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Thank you for that excursion but you failed to see my point. I was merely talking time and labour, not degree of difficulty/ability.

Here´s how I see this work.

a) group of friends (or acquaintances), one guy is a coder, decides to do a game (and bulk of the work), asks female model friend to be part (face) of his project for a share of the cut, asks artist friend to do the Illustration (for a comission).
or
b) Model girl finds out about lewd games as steady stream of side-income, puts here face on it, roughly lays out a story/characters, hires a coder and an artist to do the leg work.

Personally I tend to option a) because if it was option b) I´d image she´d put herself more "out there", do more promo to bring in more Patreons, assuming this is an economic project after all.

Maybe it´s something in between or else entirely, not that it matters anyway but, bottom line:

You can be 99% sure she is not the one coding the game, which is all i suggested to begin with...


Misogynistic, huh?
As far as I know, the spaghetti coding is all hers, at least at the start it was hers. She asked for help on a discord channel I frequent, and I even exchanged some messages with her regarding translations.
 
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dolfe67

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Renpy is really easy to learn, it's mostly IF/ELSE instances with lines in quotes for each dialogue screen. And she's friend with EvaKiss (Good Girl Gone Bad/Our Red String) who must have shown her the basics to start
 

KirYn

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Thank you for that excursion but you failed to see my point. I was merely talking time and labour, not degree of difficulty/ability.

Here´s how I see this work.

a) group of friends (or acquaintances), one guy is a coder, decides to do a game (and bulk of the work), asks female model friend to be part (face) of his project for a share of the cut, asks artist friend to do the Illustration (for a comission).
or
b) Model girl finds out about lewd games as steady stream of side-income, puts here face on it, roughly lays out a story/characters, hires a coder and an artist to do the leg work.

Personally I tend to option a) because if it was option b) I´d image she´d put herself more "out there", do more promo to bring in more Patreons, assuming this is an economic project after all.

Maybe it´s something in between or else entirely, not that it matters anyway but, bottom line:

You can be 99% sure she is not the one coding the game, which is all i suggested to begin with...


Misogynistic, huh?
Your point was clear. The continued explanation is just sad.
There is no correlation between someone working as a model and their level of intelligence or capacity for skill development.
Modelling, also, takes time and labour.
 

jollyjoker27

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Your point was clear.
Apparently not or you wouldn´t have fabricated this bs:
There is no correlation between someone working as a model and their level of intelligence or capacity for skill development.
No shit! Where did I even suggest that correlation? Are you kidding me?
Modelling, also, takes time and labour.
Which is why I´ve been been saying the entire time:
She has better (i.e. more productive) stuff to do with her time than sit in front of a computer 24/7 writing code when she can just outsource it.

If what the guy above says, who apparently spoke to her on discord, is true, you have your answer right there and we´re hopefully done here. Geez....
 

TimoF965

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She has better (i.e. more productive) stuff to do with her time than sit in front of a computer 24/7 writing code when she can just outsource it.
Thanks for explaining.
But I don't think that I can follow you there. When she started, we had the corona crisis - almost no money for modeling. So she had a good reason to establish a side/new business concept. This is quite congruent with your idea, or at least not contradictive, right?
But what about her trying to get into the "software"-business as an invest in her future? She is getting older and modeling-money will run dry sooner or later. Also she is relying on a good economy.

I don't see a reason why she would have no time for it. Modeling (if you are no big player) is not that high income job.

But of course she did use her nice face expecially in the beginning as she was posting a lot more of herself on Patreon. She does this almost no more now, though.
 

TimoF965

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There is no correlation between someone working as a model and their level of intelligence or capacity for skill development.
Modelling, also, takes time and labour.
There is no correlation? You got studies on that? I would suppose otherwise. Of course there are intelligent models out there, but statistically it might be otherwise. Two quick reasons:
a) You can earn a lot more and more reliable with your brain than your body. So if you have the opportunity to do both, you will (statistically) rather chose the brain-path.
Her switching from being a model to programming LustCampus supports my point, exemplary.

b) To be a model, you have to put a lot of work in your body. Since the day has only 24h, you will not have that much opportunity to train your brain as well. The labor it takes is quite differend.

But yeah, this is not implying that there can be no model that is intelligent or can learn how to program. And no, nobody is suggesting a model is lazy. But I would be amazed if there where as many high intelligent people in modelling as in the rest of the population.
 
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dolfe67

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Programming a VN in renpy doesn't require a high intelligence. More than modelling but still not that much
 
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