RPGM Abandoned Lust magic [v0.2] [HARU0069]

[Kibad]

RPG is not good when you have to do to much grinding for just one sex scene, like fighting thousands of monsters to level up.
This one is ok, you go to the one point and there is an event. That´s good.
The dev should add more events showing the charachters being broken bit by bit. Not as fast as the teacher.
The dev has good intentions.

 

[ethanoll123]

RPG is not good when you have to do to much grinding for just one sex scene, like fighting thousands of monsters to level up.
This one is ok, you go to the one point and there is an event. That´s good.
The dev should add more events showing the charachters being broken bit by bit. Not as fast as the teacher.
The dev has good intentions.

Eh, imo fighting is good part of rpgm game (with battle sex scenes even better). Going form point to point makes rpgm boring.

 

[Kibad]

Eh, imo fighting is good part of rpgm game (with battle sex scenes even better). Going form point to point makes rpgm boring.

Yeap. I like the fighting when there is sex scenes. Like meltys quest. The ones thats goes point to point need to have a good story.

 

[buttlovinmagic]

I don't understand, why you guys hate rpgm so much, what is interesting for example in renpy? It's just clicking and image checking... It's another image viewer -"windows photo viewer" is even better.
Of course if creator is using RPGm as walking simulator it can be boring but most of creators knows how to use that engine- they are making internaction, fights etc.
Are you trolling or what?

I think a lot of peeps dislike RPGM games as its like looking at a console game pre-playstation one. very few devs make the most of the engine and even some of the better games have sections where it looks like an early 90's revival. renpy games look like they are made in this millennium. both have their good points and bad points. its just a case of whether the game fits the engine or not for me, but for some its just too old skool looking.

the lighting and the shiny models is a bit odd but otherwise this game is not bad. generic but not bad

 

[Halfelf]

There is no such thing as "stupidly oversized boobs" in fap game

when the boobs are the size of the whole body yes there is a thing as stupidly oversized boobs. Now i havnt played this game yet i have downloaded it and plan on playing it. I like making my own mind up on what i think is stupidly oversized but from the pics i have to say imo they are close.

 

[Delmach]

I think a lot of peeps dislike RPGM games as its like looking at a console game pre-playstation one. very few devs make the most of the engine and even some of the better games have sections where it looks like an early 90's revival. renpy games look like they are made in this millennium. both have their good points and bad points. its just a case of whether the game fits the engine or not for me, but for some its just too old skool looking.

the lighting and the shiny models is a bit odd but otherwise this game is not bad. generic but not bad

What I have seen so often is that people actually play a porn game but are not interested in any kind of gameplay. As in, they are horny and impatient, and thats a dangerous mixture. To the point where I wouldnt even recommend them a Visual Novel, you still have to click there and sometimes even chose something.

Or actually read something to make a decision, and they just skip any text to get to a picture. Now as an excuse, if im horny and impatient I also dont make the best decisions, as in just watch some easy to get off porn

 

[Summer Love]

Wanking to games with high heels in them? You degenerates better watch out, the police are probably already on their way.

 

[nigelation]

RPGM maker :FeelsBadMan: people actually play those type of games?

I play rpgmaker games since my.potato can run them without crashing

 

[sengoku]

rpgm and stupidly oversized boobs....pass

Same here.

 

[Dracula Belmont]

I like RPGM because it is roleplaying game with sex yet some people just cares about sex sadly.

 

[Deleted member 199456]

Like I've said before we should all pool money and effort together to help create a revamped rpgm engine or another one entirely.

 

[yoyomistro]

Somebody tell this fella to get that Mind Control tag off the patreon page

!!!

 

[Deleted member 229118]

I don't understand, why you guys hate rpgm so much, what is interesting for example in renpy? It's just clicking and image checking... It's another image viewer -"windows photo viewer" is even better.
Of course if creator is using RPGm as walking simulator it can be boring but most of creators knows how to use that engine- they are making internaction, fights etc.
Are you trolling or what?

I can only tell you why i am sceptical about the rpgm engine.

1: Time wasters.
Games are ment to be played.
However alot of games has meaningless combat and pointless walking(grind).
In my experiance alot of rpgm games are either walking simulators or have combat that does nothing else but drag out the game.
Renpy skips the entire 5-10 min wasted walking and fighting added to the story.
Rpgm isnt the only one guilty of this.
But i have come to see the term rpgm as:
Adding alot of stuff that exist purly to drag the game out.
A good game makes every action mean something.
A bad game has you repeat the same action over and over again.
There are also bad renpy games.

2: Looking like a game build in 1995.
Now i know grapics arent everything but steam has left a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to so many amauter cash grabs who make games that has been done before and have been done beter.
While it is free on f95zone, plenty of games dare ask money while being worse then a game made 20 years ago.
It makes me look at rpgm as a warning sign.
A sign of the developer not knowing what there doing and probley going to end up wasting my time.

3: Finding the trigger.
Finding the trigger the leads to the next story is an other waste of time.
It is useally something that only makes sense in the mind of the developer.
Worse is when you can only move on with the story if you behave exactly in a way that the developer intented.
It is the same reason i hate visual novals who pretend to give you choices(branching paths dont count as choice)

It isnt that rpgm is bad.
It is that we see very few that accauly manage to find the right balance between gameplay and story progression.

This is true for all games.
Renply has a reputation of several good games.
Rpgm has a repuation of wasting players time.

And that is why i dont trust rpgm.
I want the time i spend playing a game to be spend playing.
Not wasting.
It is a hard balance to find.

 

[Demonic Ingrid]

Pretty good game, I would've love to help him do a grammar check. Also there's a weird texture on the aunt's bra when you ask her to lift her shirt. Hope the auntie's bra texture gets fixed. Also not really a fan of the click for action, rather have it go scene by scene with text (Similar to Corruption game, doesn't have to copy the style but could some ideas from it). Also wish there would be a dress up option later on for Auntie and his cousin (assuming she's her daughter).

 

[docclox]

I don't mind RPGM if it's done well. What I think I might have difficulty with is the mammary endowments of the ladies in the game. I don't mind big boobs, but there comes a point where I start seeing the pictures as more surreal than erotic.

And it started out so promisingly with Mind Control and High Heels. Oh well, to each his own I suppose...

 

[yoyomistro]

I don't mind RPGM if it's done well. What I think I might have difficulty with is the mammary endowments of the ladies in the game. I don't mind big boobs, but there comes a point where I start seeing the pictures as more surreal than erotic.

And it started out so promisingly with Mind Control and High Heels. Oh well, to each his own I suppose...

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Looks erotic enough to me :FeelsGoodMan:!

 

[Delmach]

This is true for all games.
Renply has a reputation of several good games.
Rpgm has a repuation of wasting players time.

While most of your arguments are somewhat understandable, I can only disagree with that statement.
For me its definitely the other way around, there are way more good and finished RPGmaker games and a lot more Renpy "click for pictures, 0.01 versions" out there. And most games popping up are all the same, modern setup, family themed for incest. But thats probably also because im looking at both markets, western and japanese. There lies the variety I like.

And most of the other things you mentioned sounds to like a you problem to me. As in, thinking you waste time which could just be called progression, or dont like it graphics wise. At least you were fair enough to acknowledge most of it though. Now thats rare enough, so a cookie for you. If you like cookies, that is.

 

[docclox]

For me its definitely the other way around, there are way more good and finished RPGmaker games

RPGM has been around a lot longer. There are more games written for the platform. If we accept Sturgeon's Law, then 90% of both formats are crap then there are going to be more good finished games for RPGM purely because there are more finished games for RPGM.

and a lot more Renpy "click for pictures, 0.01 versions" out there.

On the other hand, there are scads of "wander through the big empty map fighting the same slimes and fireballs you see in so many other games just to get the picture". Granted, the gratification is delayed, but there's no more feeling of challenge and accoplishment than there is in a Ren'Py clicker. It just takes more time.

Now done well both platforms can deliver excellent games. But overall, I think Ren'Py has more flexibility and is probably more suited to the sort of sim/management aspects that underlie the more popular games on this board.

 

[Delmach]

RPGM has been around a lot longer. There are more games written for the platform. If we accept Sturgeon's Law, then 90% of both formats are crap then there are going to be more good finished games for RPGM purely because there are more finished games for RPGM.

Sure, thats why I said for me. Also im a big fan of variety, and most new VNs that pop up here are just the same story, same genre, even sometimes same looking characters.

On the other hand, there are scads of "wander through the big empty map fighting the same slimes and fireballs you see in so many other games just to get the picture". Granted, the gratification is delayed, but there's no more feeling of challenge and accoplishment than there is in a Ren'Py clicker. It just takes more time.

I'd say thats not even what most see, most western developers use it without any of the fighting, just as a walking simulator. And about the feeling of challenge or accomplishment, thats subjective. Or else games like Final Fantasy back then wouldnt have been popular, or still are. Now if that kind of combat makes sense for most, especially in a porn game, thats another story. That falls under personal tastes for me.

One thing I agree is, the big empty map part. I'd say the exploration, which hopefully comes along with reward for it, should mostly be in every game. That would also fight the walking simulator feeling. And thats where for example Renpy seems to fail. There is not really a world to see, only backgrounds. And exploration, when its even present, seems to be at most just frantically wiping the mouse over the screen to see if anything gets an outline so I can click it.

Now done well both platforms can deliver excellent games. But overall, I think Ren'Py has more flexibility and is probably more suited to the sort of sim/management aspects that underlie the more popular games on this board.

Aye that I agree on, easy to realize that this forum is dominated by themes/genres, like every other forum. Its just sad that some people only ever see one side, because theres a lot of treasures in every genre, every industry.

 

[docclox]

Sure, thats why I said for me. Also im a big fan of variety, and most new VNs that pop up here are just the same story, same genre, even sometimes same looking characters.

That's the corrosive effect of money. Once people think they can make a living at this, they start targeting the most popular content. And to be fair, it's not just Renpy. There are plenty of recent RPGM games featuring a young guy returning home to live with his mom and two hot sisters and using Honey Select models for the porny bit and generic fantasy tilesets for the world.

I'd say thats not even what most see, most western developers use it without any of the fighting, just as a walking simulator.

Not my experience at all, to be honest. Maybe we look at different games.

And about the feeling of challenge or accomplishment, thats subjective. Or else games like Final Fantasy back then wouldnt have been popular, or still are.

Just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with a tile based jRPG game if it's done well. The ones where the story is engaging enough that you care about advancing the plot. The ones where you have puzzles and character interactions ... I've played some cracking RPGM style games.

But at the other end of the spectrum, the only difference between a Ren'Py click-for-more-porn game and an uninspired RPGM grind-xp-for-more-porn game is that the RPGM takes a lot longer and wastes a lot more time.

Now if that kind of combat makes sense for most, especially in a porn game, thats another story. That falls under personal tastes for me.

It can work. The whole Battle Fuck idea started with RPGM games as far as I can tell. It's just that you seem to be comparing the top 10% of RPGM games against the bottom 10% of Ren'Py and I don't think that's entirely fair.

One thing I agree is, the big empty map part. I'd say the exploration, which hopefully comes along with reward for it, should mostly be in every game. That would also fight the walking simulator feeling. And thats where for example Renpy seems to fail. There is not really a world to see, only backgrounds. And exploration, when its even present, seems to be at most just frantically wiping the mouse over the screen to see if anything gets an outline so I can click it.

Sure. I mean if you want to make a jRPG style exploration game, RPGM is clearly the superior format - it's what it was designed for. And if you want a pure visual novel, Ren'Py is the superior choice for the same reasons. All I'm saying is that most of the adult games have some degree of sim or resource management involved, and that's easier to do in Ren'Py than in RPGM. (I say this having tried to do it in both).

Its just sad that some people only ever see one side, because theres a lot of treasures in every genre, every industry.

I won't argue with that