LeakAngel

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Remember playing this game before it was long abandoned. Would like to keep this game going and possibly port it to renpy as thats when I have most experience in. If thats something people would be interested in then I'll get to work finding the main things like models, scene locations etc. Either that I'll try to make something thats similar to game like this but still has its own quirks/storyline. Would like to know if people are interested in this?
I would like a continuation of this game. Do mind that I think most of us were in for the story so the porting to ren'py shouldn't be an issue but story writing will if it's not on par with the previous work. I haven't played it in years so I don't remember the exact level of writing but it was at least pleasant to read ;)

And expect to start from the bottom since most people have forgotten about this game.
 

river333

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Good to see people are interested in the game being picked back up. While I understand the game in abandonded, it still feels a bit iffy continuing someone elses work. I'm currently in the process of replaying the game thoroughly and making notes on notable things from the story. I have a lot of thinking to do but would love to know what everyone else thinks just so I can gather a consensus on how best to move forward.
 

kurosx

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It is some years that I have played this, but iirc there was some kind of mysterious background story hinted. But we do not know what exactly that may have been, so you either have to omit it completely (what would unground the game imo), or have to come with something similar, whatever that may be.
 

Matt1245

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Good to see people are interested in the game being picked back up. While I understand the game in abandonded, it still feels a bit iffy continuing someone elses work. I'm currently in the process of replaying the game thoroughly and making notes on notable things from the story. I have a lot of thinking to do but would love to know what everyone else thinks just so I can gather a consensus on how best to move forward.
Normally you would contact the creator and get their permission before continuing their work. If you aren't able to to get their permission, then you need to choose between doing it anyway or starting something new.

Starting something new is pretty simple. However, it will take a lot more work.

Continuing it anyway is less work, but it carries the risk for a lot of drama. Like, would you be able to put this on Steam and be rewarded there for your work? Would you receive harassment from fans for "ruining" the game?

Honestly, I and a lot of other people would be happy if this game was finished. However, if you have the patience and passion, then making your own game would be more rewarding in the long run.
 

LeakAngel

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Jun 20, 2018
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Good to see people are interested in the game being picked back up. While I understand the game in abandonded, it still feels a bit iffy continuing someone elses work. I'm currently in the process of replaying the game thoroughly and making notes on notable things from the story. I have a lot of thinking to do but would love to know what everyone else thinks just so I can gather a consensus on how best to move forward.
I would recommend trying to reach out to the original dev as they might give you permission but more importantly, they may also give you some direction on how they expected to develop the game, or even better some kind of design plan, assets and files.

Without this, picking up the game could prove quite hard: it's an old game, probably using old versions of softwares and someone else's code. You could also trigger some harassment from fans or people saying it's not real work and you shouldn't be paid for it (unless it's an official agreement for example)

From my point of view, if you can get an agreement from the original dev (or buy from him the rights) to use the assets, then it's easier to pick the game where he left it. Otherwise, it's probably way easier to just start over with your own code, your own ideas. Mention the game is inspired by Lust Man Standing by Endless Taboo and try to stick to a V1 close to the existing content so people can actually compare and decide if it's worth following to "replace" it.

Having your own game makes it easier not only from a development POV, it's also easier to advertize and if you plan on being serious about it, man it's worth the hassle when the fanbase comes for YOUR work and not because you used existing stuff.
If you can create assets (meaning characters, design etc.) close to Lust Man Standing with a similar-sounding story, it should work. Feel free to explore your own ideas for the scenario, you have a great story to start with, I'm sure it will inspire you to write more ;)
 
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Gwiffin

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Anyone have any info on the NTR part of the game? People mentioned futa who your LI's become curious about?
 

Alfius

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Good to see people are interested in the game being picked back up. While I understand the game in abandonded, it still feels a bit iffy continuing someone elses work. I'm currently in the process of replaying the game thoroughly and making notes on notable things from the story. I have a lot of thinking to do but would love to know what everyone else thinks just so I can gather a consensus on how best to move forward.
I loved this game, but I will recommend you starting this game from scratch. You will need all the assets regardless to continue the story.

So, my opinion... Go for it, I loved the original, so will probably try out someone breathing life into it, even if the initial part is an exact copy of the story, but I with your own assets.
 

Alfius

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Man, I loved this game.... I was not crazy about the Trans character, (I liked the character, but the trans issue kinda went a bit against the lore with the greatly reduced male population.) Technically the trans character would also be male?

But yes, this game was one of my favorites. I'm still not sure if it was supposed to be a dad-daughter story or brother-sister.

I went with brother sister, and it worked well for me.
 

Alfius

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Anyone have any info on the NTR part of the game? People mentioned futa who your LI's become curious about?
Playing this game for an NTR route, I think would be a disappointment. I think the Futa might have been in the game for some future competition for girls affection, but I never had the feeling that the game would go in an NTR route.

The Futa character, was interesting and setup to maybe be a future antagonist. The lore and the Futa/Trans character did clash a bit in my view, since technically from a virus/disease point of view, she would be a male.

The story made the MC seems like Last man standing, but what about the Futa? Infertile?
 

FusiFranse

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Just got to this title and played through once.

In my opinion the game is finished as intended by developer.
It's a sort of variant of the dream "only guy between lots of attractive woman on an abandoned island".
Piece by piece the common sense of an male role in society is intended to be cut and shreddered into extinction.
Protection couldn't be served as intended to be unabled. Delusional provider of the 2nd part of giving birth will be gutted.
If player decides to think MC should be special in this case, you will be provided and called by name early game.
In addition, by revealed memory fragments, it's implied that the female only society is part why MC lost his memory either by a hit to his brain due to the mentioned severed method to kill zombies or by Kylie's 3 weeks experiment about his immunity for the virus.

MC has a bystander role and each hint and signal on betrayal of MC's trust has to be brushed away to get some laid content.
Developer describes a world ruled by female and only those with a father fixation and an urge to give birth got a story but in the main it's a cuckold story whereas all the real fap fun stuff happens behind the scenes with a hormonal experiment character hung like a horse or lesbianism.
The bait to play girly or "i give a fuck" seems to doesn't change anything for the 2 main character and for others nothing but a hefty end to those storylines. In one case it's even a twisted decision which should imply the dating sim part of conversations should matter.
The management part is mainly to provide food, to follow the storyline and of course the main sexual part of the game "solo-wanking to sleep-sneaked and force stripped younger women by a elder MC".

The story is spiked with bait fishing content implemented, leading you (as the player and used to do something for laid content due to other games) to think, there should be more content, which isn't. e.g. intended Kaylie endgame content blocked behind a realationship lock which you never could reach cause of her betrayal path and her meeting the transgender clapper at the time you think it should now happen any time to reach this relationship unlock.
Another example is Delilah's interaction menu.
Not to forget the roommate promise to sleep in MC's bed further on, if you have chosen her taboo-path. But as the story is telling MC endgame, she developed a penis fixation and interest during the story and MC will most likely loose that cocklength only competition sooner or later too. Developer decided to leave this loose end open as it would reveal the implied intention too obvious.
For Elizabeth, there is no content other than a one time blowjob (pity/bait decision by dev) which only got implemented as described cause she wanted to test, if she is part of the cause of zombification of men.
If you think you could set up a cure sex clinic at the female base, you are misleaden.
Intended and developed repeatable content is cut to max. 2 times, which is written for Delilah's path which is literally a dead end.
So, almost all real fap content is cockblocked but baited to and suits the female ruled world of mostly lesbianism described which is short picturized by a pity/bait decision developer intended to show his audience to describe why players endured blueballed which is not at lategame but endgame.


I read some comments on further development with zombies but in my opinion a few were unfortunately misleaden (sneaky way is developed but the bait of an sex and combat skill improvement to be followed up by player, remained during the active phase of development till 0.11 at none existent) as this is, in my opinion, exactly where mainly male players but also female (leading to real life female relationship thoughts with a sexual frustrated male partner (baited/hooked)) should end a "story told" not "game made" VN.

In the end, described female society will fail to the common interpretation of Darwinism as all described main parties are either war or fun driven and it's mentioned that one partie of those already begins to starve from hunger (after 3 weeks + playtime). It will take years to get enslaved children worker to fields to crop corn which isn't mentioned at all and may not even thought about by dev to implement (or too much for the intended content).
 
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