Mamonetti

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hi,
can someone tell me where to enter the code for the bonus content
As mentioned several times, you have the option in the main menu. However I ended up having the same problem as many others have reported because there was no such an option in the main menu. I don't know if it had to do with having installed the Gallery/Cheat Mod or with having copied my saves to the right folder.

The way I managed to solve it was by unpacking the game again with no mod nor saves, starting it and the option was there. After that I closed the game, installed the mod and copied my saves. I hope this helps.

Regards
 
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Rolllin

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I've completed everything in chapter 1, up to the part where you spy on Megan. But the game crashes during one of the animations. So now I can't complete the other routes since they depend on me progressing with Megan
is there a way to fix it? dunno if renpy has a thing that lets me skip scenes
 

zerdeca

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I finally got around to playing this update and in my opinion it's better than the last one but almost as disappointing (just in a different way). We've been waiting for Megan's sex scene since the first season and now we're half way through season 2 and it was reduced to a drunken quickie. Not having it be more meaningful seems like a major missed opportunity and now anything better that comes after will be less impactful since that build up is gone. It feels like the devs may have intended for the Megan teasing to go on for a bit longer and just tossed in a quick scene at the end of her mission for this update to get the fans off their back about it (which I admit I was part of). Maybe it'll make more sense as the story continues but right now it's one of the most disappointing scenes I've ever played.

Also, what's with the freeze time trigger? Time freezes when the MC says "what's zero divided by 1" which is just equal to zero and Megan even corrects him by saying it's "1 divided by zero" but the only one that freezes time is the former.

Hope the teacher is up next for content. I feel like she pops up everywhere which makes me miss her story more than anybody else's.

I was really expecting Amy's "ex" to bust into the room as we did the same inside of Amy. I thought that would've been hilarious after all the shit he put us through by making Taylor (Tyler?) interrupt us with Amy by wrecking her house in different ways.

Also the woman cop that arrested us after we beat the shit out of Amy's ex is hot. It's probably be too late to include another character so late in the season but I hope we see more of her
 

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Also, what's with the freeze time trigger? Time freezes when the MC says "what's zero divided by 1" which is just equal to zero and Megan even corrects him by saying it's "1 divided by zero" but the only one that freezes time is the former.
He's inside the Matrix, a rudimentary one. The sheer computational power to attempt to answer such a question causes about 1 minute of lag. /s

Anyway, I liked everything you said. Oh you wouldn't happen to remember if that hot shower scene with Megan was in S1 or S2? I need to go peep on that scene again. I kind of hope we find ourselves in a very similar but lengthier scene in the future.
 

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@Mamonetti

The way I managed to solve it was by unpacking the game again with no mod nor saves, starting it and the option was there. After that I closed the game, installed the mod and copied my saves. I hope this helps.
thanks your tip was worth its weight in gold and it worked out
 
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I could have sworn the game was implying they were virgins from the beginning, and that they wanted to lose their virginity together with a threesome. Hence why they made such a big deal out of it, and Zoe's own insecurities about her body and whether someone might find her attractive. But are the two characters actually just massive whores? Has the game creator ruled on it at all? Maybe I should look over the first season again.
Nah, Zoe even says in the dialogues that she has received lots of praises for her deepthroating skills in the past and other stuff like that. And since she is the insecure one, there is no way that Megan hasn't had her pussy ravaged by other dicks before mc.

Only "confirmed" virgin in the game is Ellie, who however took that 12 inch Pringles can in to her asshole without any difficulties.
 
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just thought i'd mention that in the usa, the states set the statutory rape laws, some states are highly restrictive like texas, you can be 17, gf is 15 or vice-versa and you can be charged and convicted of statutory rape because you are 2 yrs older, same applies if the older one is 15 and the younger one is 13.

some states have a romeo-juliette amendment to their law, if you are 6 months close in age, it's not statutory rape(unless her parents are rich haha)
even more interesting is, if you are 20 or older and the girl is under 18, you can't have sex with her at all, unless you marry her. 15 with parents consent.
oddly if you are male and underage, the woman will still be charged with a sex crime, she can't marry you either until you're 18. i guess cuz males take longer to mature. even then these things vary from state to state.
Oh crap, I forgot that each state is like it's own country in a way with their own laws. Just goes to show that I don't live in the USA. XD

And talk about how to make a law even more convoluted...

I really don't understand how you can't have sex with someone below the age 18, but can circumnavigate that by marrying her. It's like saying, you can vote, before you can drive or you can vote, but are still not eligible to be drafted.
 

anscho

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BTW did anyone keep track of the fat printed capital letters in this episode?
p a r a l l e l, v o r, and d u p l i c a are the ones that i actually noticed. i'm interested in what the words are tbh ^^
 
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There's a couple of errors in your analysis, although it is very well thought out. Where it comes apart is on the issues of consent. You make two curious interpretations of how consent is defined.

The first is the idea that consent for one type of penetration is automatically and continual consent for all others. Even if it were, then Megan's telling the MC no earlier in the day should have been taken as her revoking consent to the MC for everything, unless you believe consent cannot be revoked. But that's not how it works. She did not consent to vaginal sex with the MC while sober, and in fact gave him an emphatic no. That made her feelings on the matter clear, so he knew she didn't want to have vaginal sex with him. You also seem to be believe that she consenting to previous sexual acts in the past with the MC somehow negates her ability to withdraw consent.

Secondly, you make a point that it wasn't the MC that got her drunk. That is a loophole that appears in a few places that recent outrage over a man going free after raping a woman someone else had drugged is closing in the places it does exist. In most other places though, the inability to give consent because someone is drunk or drugged is independent of who made them drunk or drugged. If you stumble upon a drunk girl at a party, just because she says yes to sex in no way puts you in the clear because you didn't contribute to her current state. Being the person who helped incapacitated them for the purpose of sex just ends making you serious of a more serious crime, or results in a longer sentence.

Now, I'm not saying the MC would definitely go to jail, or that anyone would. The laws are pretty messed up, with lots of loopholes. Juries can make the wrong call even when the laws are clear. Victims often don't want to come forward. Megan may not remember a thing (assuming the timeline did not reset), or if she did, may not say anything because it was her brother. But could someone go to jail for what the MC did? Most definitely, in an awful lot of places. And again, in no way am I saying that it's wrong to have this scene in the game. I found it disappointing as a rape scene because it was boring and because Megan was so drunk. If you're going to give us a rape scene, give us something longer and more involved. So let's first of all not dance around the fact that this was a rape scene, although a very weak one. The devs like to include scenes like this that are rape but aren't actually the MC "forcing" himself upon a resisting target. It's him sticking his dick into a sleeping/drunk/distracted woman and then often getting called out on it before anything happens. There is the one time when he penetrates Ellie when she tells him no that ends in him getting kicked in the balls, instead of the MC finishing what he started that could have been an interesting scene, just as the MC doing something similar with Megan during their sober fooling around earlier. But t

The devs seem to draw the line at very weak rape scenarios, so perhaps their own views are that those don't count as rape either. It could be too that they're located in a country where they don't count, because laws are different in different parts of the world. For most of western Europe and the english speaking part of the world though, this would be considered rape. Again, not making a value judgement against in being in the game. Just a statement that claiming it isn't in this day and age is incorrect, and perhaps shows why it still happens so often because people are misinformed.
My analysis was very basic, but thanks.

I'll number my responses to make it easier for you to respond.

1. I do believe that consent can be revoked at any time. For example, if you try anal and the girl suddenly regrets it and tells you to stop and you continue to fuck her ass then that's rape. Of course, that's why you always enter sex with a safe word and if you're unsure, then ask. It's always better to be safe than sorry. Remember that people.

2. You asked me if I believe consent can be revoked and then seem to make up my mind for me. That's not how you make a solid argument.

3. I'll admit that I could have worded the house oral scene better at the end, but my point there was that was where consent was respected by both parties. In that instance, they both followed the law regarding sex. In court, if you have committed repeated offences, especially of the same manner, your word and your plead for innocence is going to be looked down upon me. If one were to build a case of not guilty, then that's something one would include, especially when it happened on the same day and barely a few hours before he penetrated Megan's vagina with his cock.

4. Juries can make the wrong call, but in this scenario it feels like a easy decision to make correctly. Especially if Megan remembers enough, if she misses out key parts (I can't be arsed to figure out what) due to a loss of memory, then things become complicated. The key issue here would be, if Megan did believe that the MC raped her even with her memory loss, then it looks bad for the MC, if Megan didn't believe the MC raped her, then they wouldn't be in court.

Megan is capable of falsely labelling this as rape, regardless of it actually being rape or not in either of our eyes or the law or any law and she couldn't be the only one to have done so. Whether it be by accident or on purpose for whatever reason, whether it be just or not. Here is a short soft list of such cases in general. I say soft, because it doesn't go into too much detail of each case, but gives an extremely short summary of what happened.

5. For the recent outrage, you lack sources and I'm not going to go around hunting for it since this post is already long and I'm addressing this at the last minute after going back. The case you've just put forward is not the same as what's happening here.

6. You seem to like label this as a rape scene, despite every single point of evidence pointing otherwise. Including the laws mentioned thus far. This is clearly NOT a rape scene. This is clearly a drunken sex scene. Megan clearly gave consent to penis in vagina sex. Even when drunk. She was intoxicated of her own will. She clearly had the capacity to make her own decisions, whether it was a good decision or not. Not only did Megan give consent, she dragged the MC to a secluded place to fuck, she rejected his attempts to take her home twice because he was concerned for her health and safety and her current state of drunkenness, she prostrated herself before him and was the one who began to take off her clothes, before he helped her. This isn't a weak case of him asking and her just saying yes, she deliberately set things off and ignored every one of his attempts to reject her and take her home to help her recuperate.

At no point did Megan ever resist at the party until she realised he was about to cum inside of her without a condom. She did not consent to that, but we don't know just how much time the MC was given, before he came inside her. Even so, that's not rape. That's called not practising safe sex and not taking enough precautions to prevent being cummed inside of. For example, telling the MC not to cum inside of her, before or during the middle of their sex.

Just because someone is drunk, it does not mean that they can't make the same decisions as if they were not drunk. There's a reason why alcohol is called liquid courage. Megan clearly had the courage to have sex before hand, but not enough courage/confident to have vaginal penetration with a penis earlier. The MC showed concern and she then ran off. She drank, because she was stressed and then acted upon her sexual desires when she saw him again. Do you have any idea how often there are similar cases to this? Girl is stressed from something in her life, gets drunk, goes to party and then fucks someone and then regrets it on some level, because she didn't use a condom, didn't warn the guy enough before he came inside her or any other number of similiar reasons that can be squarely laid on her. That's not rape. That's called drunken sex.

As for when Megan said no to penis in vagina sex earlier in the day, we still aren't given any reason as to why, Megan only said "[name], this isn't right", followed by, "god, really... what am I doing?" > "god, I need a drink," and the thought 'was I really about to let him fuck me?' > "No!" to meeting up later to go to the party.

Megan is clearly saying no then due to some sort of social stigma. Whether it be incest, being too easy or something else. It's left open to interpretation, but the story is clearly written as if they were all blood relatives. We've only been given blank titles to avoid the game being taken down and off patreon as they don't tolerate incest at all IIRC.

If you want to point out a rape scene, there are better examples that this which actually are rape. Like when you pointed out with Ellie at the party. Ellie was clearly intoxicated, but not drunk and she said no. He ignored it and penetrated her vagina with his dick anyway. That is rape. No two ways about that.

As for this being classed as rape in most western and English speaking countries. You can't just make a claim like that without providing sources. It's completely ignorant of what the actual laws regarding rape in those countries are. According to this source, there are 68 "western countries" -

7. You haven't proven any point. You've only given hypothesis which lack proof or creditable sources that hold up under scrutiny. Whether it be thoughts, actions or words. You over generalise far too much in favour of labelling this as rape, which it isn't.

I do wish the dev would just create better sex scenes and more.

In all honesty though, I'm tired of this conversation and am putting way too much into it and it doesn't help when you're nowhere near as thorough, nor seem to try to, when making claims. Either way, I do not believe this is rape, not do I believe Megan would believe this is rape (Yes, yes, I know she can incorrectly or correctly believe it to be rape regardless of what happened), nor would she report it as rape to anyone. It does not feel like it would be in character of her to do so.

And that's the end of this discussion for me.
 
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zerdeca

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He's inside the Matrix, a rudimentary one. The sheer computational power to attempt to answer such a question causes about 1 minute of lag. /s

Anyway, I liked everything you said. Oh you wouldn't happen to remember if that hot shower scene with Megan was in S1 or S2? I need to go peep on that scene again. I kind of hope we find ourselves in a very similar but lengthier scene in the future.
I think it's part of the Christmas event in season 2 but I'm not 100% sure
 
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