And the absolute worst thing about it: NO PORN! IN A PORN GAME! There's been plenty of guest writers making characters, some that fit much better than others such as Scrap (and even Arion to a lesser extent), and they have tons of porn! Black Wolf has literally 0 in the story of him, but at least he's sexable in WW form.
Ren'Py Lustful Desires [v0.74.1.G] [Hyao]
- Nov 18, 2021
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does scrap fucks you in any scene ? i only remember the bath scene from him and does not have any anal
I can't remember honestly. It has been a hot minute since I went to him, sorry!
I'm refreshing his Patreon every so often to see when it gets posted; still nothing.
- Aug 29, 2021
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Maybe a stupid place to ask & I Think i asked this on itchio before a long time ago but; was there ever added a way to progress the wolf plot/find caleb Without romancing bernie? Last time i played this game required 3 hearts with him to progress that. Found it a bit odd it's seemingly the Only questline with no non-romance variant. I do get that it's a m/m game primarily, But I've been playing since like.... version 0.11? Before it had any art even & got pretty invested in the story & world, but not so much romancing anybody. Lotta the other quests don't Require you to fuck/date a character to complete them, so this one's always stood out a bit as the only thing i couldn't progress. Besides the Minotaur being bugged to never get his road to town...
Nope. Romancing Bernard is still required. Though I would like for that to change one day tbh. Doesn't seem like that'll happen anytime soon though.
Much appreciated.
As for the update itself? Hyao, you better deliver, but now with the "I didn't feel like it" mindset I've come to know (and loathe) from Lilith's Throne, that just *feels* foreboding to me... It also means the May update is gonna be devoid of content/it's gonna suck most likely, given that, well, the April update is gonna be halfway through the month. So yeah, sounds like it should be a reeeeeeally good update, and if it's not, whelp, that's another game I love that I lose.
TL;DR: Put up or shut up, Hyao. All is forgiven if you deliver a truly solid update, especially after the last half a year being relatively no bueno.
- Jan 29, 2019
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I'm more and more convinced one of the major reason of Indie Dev Burnout / Abandonware,
Is this super unhealthy development environment, People Pressure + Nagging the dev for updates consistently, and complain at every step.
Game development is a Craft and Long time commitment, there'll always be highs and lows, even for Full time developers in Big studios.
There's no way a human can pump out 'good quality content' every month for many years straight.
This post really feels like Hyao's trying to educate "kids" of such gravity.
Funny he even needs to make a 'apology' this long in the first place lol.
Also, People really need to understand,
You are not part of the development (of a healthy game), at any capacity. No matter how much money you "invested" in.
Kinda like another form of Parasocial
Is that why most porn games just become abandoned, with some milking patreon money indefinitely? There's the lows, where are the highs then? 6 months of lows not good enough to recover?I'm more and more convinced one of the major reason of Indie Dev Burnout / Abandonware,
Is this super unhealthy development environment, People Pressure + Nagging the dev for updates consistently, and complain at every step.
Game development is a Craft and Long time commitment, there'll always be highs and lows, even for Full time developers in Big studios.
There's no way a human can pump out 'good quality content' every month for many years straight.
This post really feels like Hyao's trying to educate "kids" of such gravity.
Funny he even needs to make a 'apology' this long in the first place lol.
Also, People really need to understand,
You are not part of the development (of a healthy game), at any capacity. No matter how much money you "invested" in.
Kinda like another form of Parasocial
Look at The Pilgrimage for example, consistently high quality output, despite the dev learning things along the way and some dead end mechanics. The response is nothing but positive because the dev is consistent and reliable. And no one is forcing the dev to commit to a monthly release cycle if that's too much pressure.
Definitely depends on the dev. Innoxia (of Lilith's Throne) is 100% Low all the time and milks her simping echo chamber because they're beyond stupid. Hyao has had quite a long time of lows, but finally I do think this is the update that is going to deliver. If it's not, it's definitely going to piss me off given how long the low has been.
Kinda how I feel about Palworld despite them literally claiming how inept they are, lol. It's all about the developer mentality, and Hyao's definitely got highs and lows, Innoxia is only lows, and that Pilgrimage dev sounds like all highs. You can't force a better work ethic and mentality into people no matter how hard you try. Remember, people are not robots and have many factors to how they do the things they do.
- Jan 29, 2019
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If you failed to read the nuance.
I was talking about "super unhealthy development environment" is one of the Major Reason,
For a genuine Developer that Aims to create a game.
This environment is created by the industry, the developers, and the audiences as a whole.
Not about those Bad actors that're only in for the money milking.
Is The Pilgrimage developed by a solo dev, for how long?
6 months of lows is not good enough to recover, if they didn't properly recover, or the low is deeper.
And why are you comparing them in this way, exactly? There are many different circumstances.
No one is forcing you to support one or another.
Yeah, that's why we're voicing the opposite of support.
- Aug 29, 2021
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Damn, oh well guess I'll keep waiting. Still feels so silly to be required since it locks so many quests. Can't even upgrade bareshade without finding caleb first... Which is also required for some other stuff. Maybe One day we'll get that & a non-romance route for ste too. I like him & his kids, but I ain't trying to replace their mom lol.
Well, actually you don't need hearts with him to do the Bareshade Expansion quest. There's a no love route for starting it.
- Aug 29, 2021
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Wait seriously? When did that change? I remember it never letting me progress bc I hadn't finished the werewolf quest. Maybe that was just a weird bug like ste not getting his road then....
I have no clue, its been that way for as long as I've been playing. And if there was a bug with the Country Road quest, it must've been fixed since it's definitely possible to do it. In fact its required for one of Logan's heart events.
- Aug 29, 2021
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Could just be a side effect of my saves being Real old. Wouldn't surprise me if it's just a save related issue, First saves from the main playthrough was started in like 2021 & this game is Real Long if you read everything. Started a new one a few times but never got far enough to test if those were still bugged.