Ren'Py Lustful Desires [v0.81.0] [Hyao]

[Polarthief]

I'm sorry but how are they different in anyway? Both of them decided to listen to fans and entirely fk up the content schedule, least LO still has a plot planned which is way more that can be said for LD

One just monetizes exact content produced as where the other just baits a story that never comes, Hyao is deffo not "better" both have been pretty crap in clear cut content and take tangents due to fan input

Not OP but I'd argue Hyao firstly charges pennies and he doesn't "give in" to his patrons. It's more he gets too many ideas and never bothers finishing any of them, vs LO Dev who has completely shifted his own views on his game and it has turned into what his Boring Normie Human-Lovers Patrons have voted to turn it into. Reminder that it's a SPACE/ALIEN & MONSTER-FUCKER game whose new content is like 90~95%+ Humans only. Hyao at least delivers not purely what the wallet demands (doubly so when Bestiality is a no-no on Patreon).

TL;DRish:
- LD is still very much the same game that it originally was, just with some dead-end splintered off paths. Hyao gets too many ideas and never finishes them, but he didn't change the base game to something unrecognizable.
- LO has went from primarily monster/alien characters to primarily humans. He's completely sold out the core concept of the game to the highest bidders.

 

[Zorrscha]

- LD is still very much the same game that it originally was, just with some dead-end splintered off paths. Hyao gets too many ideas and never finishes them, but he didn't change the base game to something unrecognizable.

If you consider them killing off a fan fave and changing the artists "the same" sure, and saying Hyao gets too many ideas to finish one is just a flat cop-out sorry, if everybody had that mindset NO games would ever reach completion.

The writing is stale, the sex is vanilla and boring now, least LO kept up with the kinky writing as where LD is just a snooze fest that forced me to play as some random after watching my fave character get offed because Hyao thought fk the fans

 

[nackedsnake]

To break the negativity a bit, while I agree that the scope creep is a problem I don't really agree on some of the more doom and gloom opinions in here, it is still an extremely high quality porn game and brings good content relatively consistently.

Hyao is also a relatively good dev when it comes to community and such, just look at Lust Odyssey and its horrible dev.


I don't think that there ever will be a 'perfect' game and dev especially considering most games here are hobby projects that gained traction we shouldn't paint the devil on the wall non-stop.

This is just my Opinion and not target at anyone directly and so on, I just feel that we might need a bit more positivity in here.

What we need is to be more objective.
Not blindly defending whatever the dev is doing cuz you like the game;
Nor be a hater that just Made Up Lies try to paint the dev in bad light, cuz He didn't do what you want him to.

Not judging Hyao's ability as a dev here, but he's intention is always good, and genuinely want to make a good game - in fact both the arts and writing are of top quality among it's peers. (Also from what I heard he is a massive positive influence among many devs.)
But we still need to be critical about the glaring Scope Creep issue that he ain't trying to solve anytime soon.

I condemn devs that just view porn games as a means to make money, sell out game integrity.
Like LO, pay to win polls dictate contents made, forced paid self-inserts that don't really belong, using Generative AI to make contents, etc.
But I will still praise the things he did good, like very hot sex scene writing, or the amazing sexy alien designs before they faded into oblivion.

 

[Polarthief]

changing the artists "the same" sure

You act like he had a choice unless you just wanted silhouettes of every feral beast? ZoroJ doesn't do feral, so unless you wanted there to literally never be art of them and leave it unfinished?

and saying Hyao gets too many ideas to finish one is just a flat cop-out sorry, if everybody had that mindset NO games would ever reach completion.

I never said it as a good thing mind you, I'm saying there's a difference between being a bit scatterbrained and outright selling out the core of the game to the highest bidder.

The writing is stale

The writing has basically been the same as it always has. Have you read some of the descriptions he's used in some of the very early builds?

the sex is vanilla and boring now

AFAIK the sex is the same as it always has been as well. If the humans are too vanilla for you, go be a wanton slut for the red orcs or go fuck the gorillas and bears, idk what to tell you.

least LO kept up with the kinky writing

One of the last good things about LO left, except most of the kinks it aims at isn't my cup of tea.

as where LD is just a snooze fest that forced me to play as some random

I'll definitely give you that, the BW stuff is dumb.

after watching my fave character get offed because Hyao thought fk the fans.

Was he actually "on-screen" outright killed? I know he's "gone", but is it like a "we literally saw him dead" gone or "we have no idea what happened to him" kind of gone? I legit just don't remember.

I will say one of the annoying aspects of LD is that you can have missable scenes or progress past a point where a scene is no longer possible and there isn't enough save slots to save everything, so yeah I'll give you "well now I can't mess with him since he's gone".

 

[Woozieydreamer]

Was he actually "on-screen" outright killed? I know he's "gone", but is it like a "we literally saw him dead" gone or "we have no idea what happened to him" kind of gone? I legit just don't remember.

He stood his ground to fight a bunch of invincible shapeshifting demons that we know from dialogue with 'Jester' as well as his corrupted friend need very, very little effort to essentially completely assimilate and replace a person's existence wholesale. We don't see him die, but context clues make it blatantly obvious that at absolute best he's getting identity death'd. Not that it really matters either, because Hyao is never advancing the main plot ever again.

 

[Zorrscha]

You act like he had a choice unless you just wanted silhouettes of every feral beast? ZoroJ doesn't do feral, so unless you wanted there to literally never be art of them and leave it unfinished?

Ngl I think a LOT of people would of preferred that, or just get a separate artist for it, ZoroJ just had a super hot way of drawing burly men that not many can compete with, especially if you were into feet.

I originally joined it for his art alone really, and over time I did enjoy the game to a certain extent but when Hyao just kept forgetting to add things to the Evil route like wiping out the Lizard Tribe and then stagnated in Northcrest for months I noticed it was no longer the same game.

The writing has basically been the same as it always has. Have you read some of the descriptions he's used in some of the very early builds?

To me it lacks the fair it once did, maybe it's due to the lack of presence of the MC, dunno, no longer feels like we really belong in a story so it's just empty sex leading to nowhere?

Was he actually "on-screen" outright killed? I know he's "gone", but is it like a "we literally saw him dead" gone or "we have no idea what happened to him" kind of gone? I legit just don't remember.

Well considering we can attempt to jack off to his rags and the MC gets emo and there has been no news since, gonna assume he's dead DEAD

 

[Polarthief]

Ngl I think a LOT of people would of preferred that, or just get a separate artist for it, ZoroJ just had a super hot way of drawing burly men that not many can compete with, especially if you were into feet.

I'm not gonna pretend to know what happened with ZoroJ because I don't, and I was implying to "get a separate artist for the feral stuff" (who was Narram, who then left for personal reasons as he's been going through some shit).

Also yes, he did some hot stuff, though not only am I not into feet, I don't remember there *being* that much foot content in LD. There's a few scenes here and there I can recall (Barrel and Rat King), but I don't even remember most of the sprites having a foot focus either. To each their own though.

To me it lacks the fair it once did, maybe it's due to the lack of presence of the MC, dunno, no longer feels like we really belong in a story so it's just empty sex leading to nowhere?

I'm, not really sure what you're hoping for from a NSFW game TBH. Vast majority of these games have a hard focus on getting you off or telling a story with sex being such a non-thing that some of them have toggles to remove NSFW. This game always had a light focus on the story element but was always about getting you off. As for "empty sex leading to nowhere", I'd love to know what all the wolf/werewolf loads were for in the early game that is no longer a thing in the late game. Hell you can technically go through this game having sex with no one if you so chose to, though it'd be a rather boring game overall.

If you found LD expecting an epic tale, I really don't know what to tell you. Yes there was always SOME story elements, but the focus was always on getting you off. If anything, you should be upset that the game barely does THAT anymore since the content per month has gone down drastically since the earlier builds.

 

[zz8888]

Some slightly more photorealistic Lizardmen

 

[nackedsnake]

Some slightly more photorealistic Lizardmen
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Who Drew these?
Quite different from OGs except the colouring, but make scene in the 3D setting.
Also lacking the charisma OG has + Kinda generic faces makes me want to guess it's AI CG.

 

[MingeMaster]

Who Drew these?
Quite different from OGs except the colouring, but make scene in the 3D setting.
Also lacking the charisma OG has + Kinda generic faces makes me want to guess it's AI CG.

Pretty sure it's just AI slop.

 

[Mandj120]

Some slightly more photorealistic Lizardmen
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It's a fucking AI, NO FREAKY WAY

 

[Shiragon]

i can't even see what you guys see it doesn't appear on my end