Ren'Py Lustful Desires [v0.82.0] [Hyao]

[Golden Twink]

Lmao you've just defined my historic with this game, I forgot how many times I needed to reset the game because I just saved either all in a save file or between important choices, and mostly because of Logan

Because I just found it in the hard way and at very "late" game that if he becomes a bottom you can't reach a relationship and probably no werewolf content, the same goes if you did saved Bernard instead of him, instant lock. All of that for only getting a 69 and a body worshipping scene with him later (dom mc) if you do it "right"

Oh gods, just reminded me why I had to restart the most recent time... Think I as well saved the "wrong one" of those two NPCs and got completely locked out of the content I wanted to continue down. Completely blocked that out of my memory as that realization caused me so much disdain at the time for the game I absolutely adore(d).

 

[Longfang]

My main concern with Logan is that his romance path is being written for bottom/sub players only.

I don't know how it is recently for newer updates since it's been a while I've played but in my experience it's kind of how the whole game is being written, you always lose content by being a top since dominating an enemy means you lose reputation with the faction you're topping which in turns means less sex scenes because they don't like you.

Not surprised it's reflected in most of the NPCs being exclusive top (at least only when it comes to your MC, considering ironically Logan can be the biggest bottom slut in this game).

 

[WazawaiDa]

I don't know how it is recently for newer updates since it's been a while I've played but in my experience it's kind of how the whole game is being written,

Since I've started following the game (about two years ago), I've found the new content to have both top and bottom options for most of the sex scenes, though bottom/sub players definitely have more optional content and scenes in general.

you always lose content by being a top since dominating an enemy means you lose reputation with the faction you're topping which in turns means less sex scenes because they don't like you.

This is true for the enemies introduced earlier on (Lizardmen, Bandits, Werewolves), but most of the new enemies, starting around Northcrest, gain points even after being dominated. Even for the older enemies, you can still get points with Lizardmen and Bandits if you dominate the female bandits and the acolytes (though I guess this option wouldn't really work for gay players).

That said, even with max points I haven't really found too many exclusive scenes (if there are, they are still bottom!player only), so it shouldn't affect the experience too much.

Not surprised it's reflected in most of the NPCs being exclusive top (at least only when it comes to your MC, considering ironically Logan can be the biggest bottom slut in this game).

I've found that most of the NPCs will bottom for the player, actually, which is why the exceptions, like the Logan scene, really sick out to me and annoy me.

Off the top of my head, bottom!player exclusive characters are Gunnar (have to submit to him to even gain points, can't get a heart if you're not his sub) and Booner (apparently, haven't interacted with him at all). I guess Naneless sort of counts too?

Dulrig and Xeroth, of all characters, have their romances gated behind bottom/sub content (Dulrig's first heart requires a bottom/sub MC, you can only get Xeroth's second heart if you agree to be his sex slave or something).

I get that story-wise it wouldn't really make sense for all of the characters to be versatile, but it does still annoy me as a player.

 

[Sant3224]

Lmao you've just defined my historic with this game, I forgot how many times I needed to reset the game because I just saved either all in a save file or between important choices, and mostly because of Logan

Because I just found it in the hard way and at very "late" game that if he becomes a bottom you can't reach a relationship and probably no werewolf content, the same goes if you did saved Bernard instead of him, instant lock. All of that for only getting a 69 and a body worshipping scene with him later (dom mc) if you do it "right"

Oh and Gunnar too, which the options are either sub to him, frotting or rape him, subbing to him is the easiest option to get more content but I play as dom mc and apparently that doesn't matter to him since he'll treat us as a sub lol. Frotting is the neutral option but 0 content afterwards so it's pointless unless morally you don't want to rape him. And then, the rape option, look, I don't mind raping asshole characters, but that option is so... boring? They could've created a new route with him, become a sub slut after mc's dick but nope, one sex scene which you are in the giving end and that's that, he hates you, route locked, go to an older save and redo it, etc, etc.
Tbh I didn't felt much after the game "killed" him, because I know he'll come back, and as a dominating asshole all over again but with 1 heart (if you subbed).

 

[desireloading]

Hello, I have a very strange question. By any chance did Logan and his ex have children? I think I had read something related to that in the game or could I be totally wrong? I only had that vague memory that the ex left with her children after they separated before Logan met the protagonist. This makes me doubt that if it is true... Logan openly would not have interest in his children after establishing a relationship with the protagonist I mention this question here because in the wiki there is no mention of there being children from that relationship, but in the game I think so... please correct me if I am wrong, it has been a while since I remembered this topic. Which one might be interesting to talk about?

 

[WazawaiDa]

Hello, I have a very strange question. By any chance did Logan and his ex have children? I think I had read something related to that in the game or could I be totally wrong? I only had that vague memory that the ex left with her children after they separated before Logan met the protagonist.

I'm 99% sure Logan did not have any children with his wife, and I'm also pretty sure they were not separated and still together when she started sneaking away to see the wolves.

You might be thinking of the drunkard NPC at the tavern, his backstory is that he's been depressed and drinking his life away after his wife and children had left him. He is the one who got some new art recently.

Out of the main love interests, I think Ste is the only one confirmed to have children in the game? The other dads are all minor NPCs.

 

[desireloading]

I'm 99% sure Logan did not have any children with his wife, and I'm also pretty sure they were not separated and still together when she started sneaking away to see the wolves.

You might be thinking of the drunkard NPC at the tavern, his backstory is that he's been depressed and drinking his life away after his wife and children had left him. He is the one who got some new art recently.

Out of the main love interests, I think Ste is the only one confirmed to have children in the game? The other dads are all minor NPCs.

Thank you very much, it is most likely that I got confused with that text while trying to get the 3 hearts with Logan. Thank you very much for correcting me

 

[desireloading]

I have a couple of separate questions, if you are interested in answering, but I will give you context first. I am someone who played approximately versions 0.1-0.2 and who started playing 2 months ago again. and I would like to ask you the following questions: What are the best character developments in this game? I find this particular topic interesting since I have seen quite a few changes that seem incredible to me. How many years of development do you think the game needs to be finished according to you and why? And the final question would be if someone can explain to me a small drama that this game has, specifically about the design/art change that occurred in the game, as I told you, I am playing again after a long time and I really don't understand those problems. And as an extra, which characters they think will have a good development in the future or what plots they would like to see developed. . Thank you and sorry for my spelling mistakes, I am not a native English speaker.

 

[nomaiD]

Hi! I used to play this game a while ago and I have a question: does the game still not have a gallery/fast access to sex scene outside of playing through the game normally? I'm asking because I am only intersted in a few characters, and I find the game overall sluggish to get through. So i really don't feel like spending a lot of time playing through the game with a guide only to get to the scenes with the goblin or with Barrel (since I remember he becomes a recurring character)

 

[WazawaiDa]

What are the best character developments in this game? I find this particular topic interesting since I have seen quite a few changes that seem incredible to me.

Depends on what you mean by character development. Even though all of the characters are still WIP, the Bareshade/Lizard Tribe ones have the most scenes so far and are the most developed (Logan and Roushk are my favourites here). Bernard probably is the most complete character with the most complete romance.

Logan and Korg are my favourite characters in general. Scar and Tank, who I also like, have been developed quite well as the story goes along, Tank ends up being surprisingly compelling. I also have to mention Rose, a rather fun and interesting character, imo, who becomes more and more prominent as the story goes along (also one of the very few major female characters, which you might or might not be into, though either way there is no erotic content featuring her right now).

Some people seem to really like Gunnar. He probably has the most erotic scenes in the game and, allegedly, some good romantic scenes as long as you enjoy sub/bottom content. None of that really appeals to me, so he ends up being just kind of annoying and way too stubborn.

How many years of development do you think the game needs to be finished according to you and why?

Can't even begin to estimate. The main story will probably take another few years, but the side content/areas could extend that even more.

And the final question would be if someone can explain to me a small drama that this game has, specifically about the design/art change that occurred in the game, as I told you, I am playing again after a long time and I really don't understand those problems.

The main artist had stopped working on the game around two years ago, and so a new artist had to take on that role while the other was taking a break/leaving indefinitely (other supporting artists have also come onboard since then). No one really knows exactly why they decided to take a break from/leave the project, so there has been some speculation that something happened behind the scenes. Either way, some people really didn't like the new art and were quite vocal about it. This eventually led to Hyao, the main dev, making a post talking about how the negativity surrounding the new updates and development was realy affecting the team's motivation and enthusiasm for the project.

This was all quite a while ago now, and the team seems to have recovered since then, but there might have been some lasting consequences (it might be completely unrelated, but most of the guest writers seem to have stopped writing for the project since then, and the guest character introduced around that time, Garuik, hasn't really got any new scenes or content after that).

And as an extra, which characters they think will have a good development in the future or what plots they would like to see developed.

In no particular order, I want to see the Mythshore story continue and new content for the associated characters, more development for the Western Island and Eastern half of the continent, and more content and development for the Orcs (relationship building, romance, erotic scenes).

 

[WazawaiDa]

Hi! I used to play this game a while ago and I have a question: does the game still not have a gallery/fast access to sex scene outside of playing through the game normally? I'm asking because I am only intersted in a few characters, and I find the game overall sluggish to get through. So i really don't feel like spending a lot of time playing through the game with a guide only to get to the scenes with the goblin or with Barrel (since I remember he becomes a recurring character)

The Patreon build has a gallery with character art/CGs, but nothing when it comes to replaying/viewing just sex scenes, no.

 

[nomaiD]

no.

I see, what a bummer. Thank you though!

 

[desireloading]

Depends on what you mean by character development. Even though all of the characters are still WIP, the Bareshade/Lizard Tribe ones have the most scenes so far and are the most developed (Logan and Roushk are my favourites here). Bernard probably is the most complete character with the most complete romance.

Logan and Korg are my favourite characters in general. Scar and Tank, who I also like, have been developed quite well as the story goes along, Tank ends up being surprisingly compelling. I also have to mention Rose, a rather fun and interesting character, imo, who becomes more and more prominent as the story goes along (also one of the very few major female characters, which you might or might not be into, though either way there is no erotic content featuring her right now).

Some people seem to really like Gunnar. He probably has the most erotic scenes in the game and, allegedly, some good romantic scenes as long as you enjoy sub/bottom content. None of that really appeals to me, so he ends up being just kind of annoying and way too stubborn.


Can't even begin to estimate. The main story will probably take another few years, but the side content/areas could extend that even more.


The main artist had stopped working on the game around two years ago, and so a new artist had to take on that role while the other was taking a break/leaving indefinitely (other supporting artists have also come onboard since then). No one really knows exactly why they decided to take a break from/leave the project, so there has been some speculation that something happened behind the scenes. Either way, some people really didn't like the new art and were quite vocal about it. This eventually led to Hyao, the main dev, making a post talking about how the negativity surrounding the new updates and development was realy affecting the team's motivation and enthusiasm for the project.

This was all quite a while ago now, and the team seems to have recovered since then, but there might have been some lasting consequences (it might be completely unrelated, but most of the guest writers seem to have stopped writing for the project since then, and the guest character introduced around that time, Garuik, hasn't really got any new scenes or content after that).


In no particular order, I want to see the Mythshore story continue and new content for the associated characters, more development for the Western Island and Eastern half of the continent, and more content and development for the Orcs (relationship building, romance, erotic scenes).

Thank you very much for responding again. Thank you very much and I find your points interesting.

The characters I like the most are Logan and Roushk, just like you. I like their plot, even though Roushk's marriage to Othra makes me uncomfortable, even though there is no problem. I also agree with you that the most complete route is that of Bernard, whose personality I find adorable.

I hope that at some point the relationships with other characters develop more, such as that of the protagonist with Ste and her children, or that of the protagonist with Korg. I would also like to see more interactions between other characters, like in the fair scene where Groth and Rose meet.

From the story as such, I would like the witch's plot and her plans to be developed more, along with Nameless's plot. I estimate that the game has a minimum of 5 years of development, unless it is abandoned or left as a game to squeeze money, as in other cases.

Thanks for explaining the drama related to the art of the game. I was unaware of these problems and I feel sorry for what is currently happening with Garuik's character. He is a character that came to me by accident while farming on New Road, which caught my attention, so I investigated him and he had almost no content.

I also hope and want what you say about Mythshore, Western Island and the eastern part of the mainland. As extra details that I would like, it would be to see what they do with the character of Sabal and it would be interesting if they included interactions with centaurs and the Gnolls. If they could make it possible to have a relationship with loving werewolves, I wonder if it would be possible for that to happen with centaurs and Gnolls.

Thank you for your answers. They helped me see how the game is and what I can expect from it.

 

[ppadjake]

Whether it was the drama two years ago or now, it's still the same.
That is, the client is aware of the development issues.
That when there is a side story, the main plot does not go forward.
I noticed someone comment a few days ago that Black Wolf came at the wrong time and the wrong place. (Even though I really enjoyed it.)
Personally, I don't see what's wrong with those guests. As long as they do good and interesting work. (I realize that it makes no difference whether it is interesting or appealing to me or not, No. It's almost pointless if the main story doesn't go any further, as Brotel does, while the main story is still frozen back in those days, well, I am unable to apply for job there.)
As for people who should improve. It's the game owner.
he tried to put in so many things that he couldn't keep up with.
No one tied the knot for him.
As for the new Character Design, shit is shit, that's all.

 

[Garnser]

The biggest complain was around the fact that Hyao, instead of progressing the main plot, took too many commissions and broaden the game widely, instead of focusing on one thing, thus having a burnout, trying to please paid supporters. I've stopped actively following the game several months after the werewolf den alpha fight, seeing the game development moving at much slower pace, than it was at the start of the release. As for the character design, it was quite obvious that it won't be for everyone's taste, since even the first enemy bandit had a bulging body of a common gorilla patriarch, but seeing how orcs were presented, the first bandit was only the starting point for a muscle inflated fetish of this game.

Correct me, because I'm most likely wrong, but in terms of locations where the main plot progresses what was added in two years? The human city, an orc camp, a fish village and a port town with undeads, some locations between them, roads, caves and etc., a jungle and that's it? If the amount of content in them satisfy you, then I guess that's great for you, but I don't really see much progression in the game, except the war updates. And I don't really see the reason to start another new game, I had enough when I had to redo the game when my save files were broken for 20th time, because each new version was incompatible with the old ones. Even if it't not like that anymore, I'll probably wait for another year to see if the plot has been moved as far so I can start to care about the game again.

 

[nackedsnake]

The biggest complain was around the fact that Hyao, instead of progressing the main plot, took too many commissions and broaden the game widely, instead of focusing on one thing, thus having a burnout, trying to please paid supporters. I've stopped actively following the game several months after the werewolf den alpha fight, seeing the game development moving at much slower pace, than it was at the start of the release. As for the character design, it was quite obvious that it won't be for everyone's taste, since even the first enemy bandit had a bulging body of a common gorilla patriarch, but seeing how orcs were presented, the first bandit was only the starting point for a muscle inflated fetish of this game.

Correct me, because I'm most likely wrong, but in terms of locations where the main plot progresses what was added in two years? The human city, an orc camp, a fish village and a port town with undeads, some locations between them, roads, caves and etc., a jungle and that's it? If the amount of content in them satisfy you, then I guess that's great for you, but I don't really see much progression in the game, except the war updates. And I don't really see the reason to start another new game, I had enough when I had to redo the game when my save files were broken for 20th time, because each new version was incompatible with the old ones. Even if it't not like that anymore, I'll probably wait for another year to see if the plot has been moved as far so I can start to care about the game again.

Even if you don't like the state of the project, do you really need to Slander the Developer in bad faith?
Sure you can say Hyao is incompetent in project management, and let scope creep gets the better of him. But it's almost guaranteed to happen to indie dev's first project when they hv so many ideas floating around.
Sure the project struggles greatly for a long while, but Hyao actively trying to remedy it, and it's seen better light as of late.
That can NOT be said for 90% the devs in this market.

TF "took too many commissions" "trying to please paid supporters"?? Any evidence to back up this accusation?
Afaik Hyao is the last person who would be driven by money.

TF "muscle inflated fetish"?? This game has no such thing. It's in fact one of the most vanilla fantasy porn game in term of fetishes. Or you don't actually know what you are talking about?
The art direction is already set clearly when it first came out, if you don't like it, that's your problem.

TF "each new version was incompatible with the old ones"?? Even when it's a WIP project, there's only one update that nullify previous saves.
Not to mention Hyao offeres in-game cheats For Free, in case you don't like to grind.

Reasonable criticism is fine, but don't spread blind hatred, nothing good will come out of it.

 

[Zorrscha]

The biggest complain was around the fact that Hyao, instead of progressing the main plot, took too many commissions and broaden the game widely, instead of focusing on one thing, thus having a burnout, trying to please paid supporters. I've stopped actively following the game several months after the werewolf den alpha fight, seeing the game development moving at much slower pace, than it was at the start of the release. As for the character design, it was quite obvious that it won't be for everyone's taste, since even the first enemy bandit had a bulging body of a common gorilla patriarch, but seeing how orcs were presented, the first bandit was only the starting point for a muscle inflated fetish of this game.

Correct me, because I'm most likely wrong, but in terms of locations where the main plot progresses what was added in two years? The human city, an orc camp, a fish village and a port town with undeads, some locations between them, roads, caves and etc., a jungle and that's it? If the amount of content in them satisfy you, then I guess that's great for you, but I don't really see much progression in the game, except the war updates. And I don't really see the reason to start another new game, I had enough when I had to redo the game when my save files were broken for 20th time, because each new version was incompatible with the old ones. Even if it't not like that anymore, I'll probably wait for another year to see if the plot has been moved as far so I can start to care about the game again.

Honest it's just boring now, it was never confirmed why ZoroJ stopped doing the art either which honestly was the biggest downfall, I'm not keen on games that have multiple artists as it becomes inconsistent then we have Hyao KILL OFF the best character then on top of that we have vanilla af scenes now. It should be renamed to Reluctant Desires

 

[Arkanae]

I really do not see why so much negativity.

I have been following this game for nearly a year, and I see updates and content that is:
- consistent with the size of the tiny development team
- regularly paced, with playable new content coming out monthly like clockwork
- competently written, structured, with dialogues and art that is quite a bit above the quality I have come to expect from indie games

It's more than I can say about many professional development teams and even games studios with funding and a publisher. Sure, some indie games are better at project management or better at communication, because their devs have more experience, but then tend to be much less generous with free content and much more focused on extracting income from the project.

 

[Polarthief]

I had enough when I had to redo the game when my save files were broken for 20th time, because each new version was incompatible with the old ones. Even if it't not like that anymore, I'll probably wait for another year to see if the plot has been moved as far so I can start to care about the game again.

Just FTR: it hasn't been like that for a long time. I've been on the same save the last 3 years or so.

Honest it's just boring now, it was never confirmed why ZoroJ stopped doing the art either

It could be simply because he doesn't draw ferals. Having a good amount of your enemies just be a silhouette for years, even the basic Wolf enemies, looks bad.

what I find even more funny about all these critiques is that

this is a piracy site so they're not even paying [for a FREE GAME]

this is essentially a FREE GAME

you all are so invested in a porn game that you don't even pay for it lol you like it play it you don't you can forget about it it's not worth the stress tbh

There's not too many people in here that are going extra and instead are just stating their opinions/dislikes about the game. Don't make mountains out of molehills.

 

[codefost]

Tbh and fair.

Kill off character out of nowhere instead of supporting character was no doubt bad move (without warning that's)

As for other thing... Main plot might be essential or necessary BUT there's one thing i want to say.
Do you think received commission and widen game content so much that the content balance impact main plot development?
Nope, NEXT LINE IS "what do you mean no?"
Here's simple answers, what if... Hyao take commission and widen game content area because he planned for Big main plot? Like all content that doesn't involved main story somehow have reaction or various affected outcomes? Like alpha werewolf background for uncover witch secret?
Or another theory, Hyao want to make content available as much as possible so when he developed main storyline it'll become more make sense from big pictures of game lore & current situation and less plot hole. As well as more easily to pick storyline path and widen imagination for main story plot.

Maybe we focus on main storyline development, amout of commission and content to the point that...
We are player right? We're not dev right?
So... What we are doing and spread negativity atmosphere (other forum too) was no difference than force dev to do what we asked right?
Look at love&corruption game, dev clearly say no gay stuff and other thing yet no one try bother.
Did hyao accept and do what people asked to the point your guy started control direction of contents?

Be honest with me, except me.
Did anyone paid patreon to vote in poll each month?
...
If no then, think carefully. Nowadays life is hard, economy is bad and do you think this game won't suddenly stop or cancelled bc problem of money, bad reception and bad pressure?

At this rate, will game like this appear again?

Nah

This much content and variety? (Straight female mc was ignored i know but I'm talking about whole)

No game was made with this genre anymore guy these day except those cringe human male mc dominated harem genre etc.

I checked lasted update since December yet no such game.

In the end I'm not supporter on patreon so I'm gonna disappear in cloud if game really cancelled.

Hope your guy calm down and rethink a bit.
Porn game not triple A game like balder gate 3 or Resident evil dude. For fun and fap, not toxic community like smash bros or other game in public genre.

Enjoy what we have, most game update was delayed lately. Go fap yourself with game you like already.

YOUR NEXT LINE IS "What are you even talking about bro"!!!