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Dont patronize me. I think this kind of games should be about our main character - developing skills and relationships. Not switch to flashback character for I dont know how long... too long. And on the top of all - his plotline is now frozen like the others and instead of doing something with him, idk trying to turn him back to human, we are now on the others side of map, talking to desert lizards..
Most of the game is about "developing our skills and relationships" and that doesn't change with Black Wolf. You also have multiple ways to ignore or opt out of his content, including opting out entirely by corrupting Logan into a bottom so he never gets the motivation or willpower to hunt down and beat the werewolf alpha. And I'm fairly certain Black Wolf's plotline is going to tie back into Logan's anyway - though in what manner, I can't say.

I do agree with you that Hyao and his team need to stop jumping haphazardly from one plotline to the next though, since it frequently results in some stories just flat out not getting any new content for months on end. I feel that they really need to settle and just focus on finishing up Black Wolf and expanding the Blessing of Lust story (which you need to progress Northcrest Conspiracy and Orc War to even start) before moving onto the desert lizardman tribes.
 

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Dont realy understand why people are crying about BW quest when its not writen by Hyao at all, its written by Brimscorch, so the it doesnt impeed the progress of main story at all since Brimscorch are not involved with main plot, its a side write content not Hyaos, similar to Maul, Ste, Xer, Scrap, Arion and some others are written not by Hyao, he doesnt touch their stories and progression since its responsibility of featured writers, and the way Hayo working on the story is more based on the mood, he doesn have a planned out what he will be working and stuff, one day he is in the mood to write conspiracy theory quest and next day he is in the mood to write lizard stuff and etc., so any featured writers quests are not affecting progression of the storry at all
 
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Dont realy understand why people are crying about BW quest when its not writen by Hyao at all, its written by Brimscorch, so the it doesnt impeed the progress of main story at all since Brimscorch are not involved with main plot, its a side write content not Hyaos, similar to Maul, Ste, Xer, Scrap, Arion and some others are written not by Hyao, he doesnt touch their stories and progression since its responsibility of featured writers, and the way Hayo working on the story is more based on the mood, he doesn have a planned out what he will be working and stuff, one day he is in the mood to write conspiracy theory quest and next day he is in the mood to write lizard stuff and etc., so any featured writers quests are not affecting progression of the storry at all
It's not that. it's the fact that we would keep getting so many characters that is more of targeting one side of the audience, than the other sides, leading to so many romance moment become very unfinished.
 
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It's not that. it's the fact that we would keep getting so many characters that is more of targeting one side of the audience, than the other sides, leading to so many romance moment become very unfinished.
Exactly. We have old characters that are on pause for years now, meanwhile weve started a side plotline, that couldve be easily added later...
 

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Some of the latest artwoks that Stan did with Everett and Mule, some are WIPs
Will all of these be used in the game?
Which means the Everett and Mule contents are quite hefty.
Like the Clothes is quite different, basically overhaul Everette's Design
And there's the mysterious King-like guy who also just like Everett's Brother
 

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Will all of these be used in the game?
Which means the Everett and Mule contents are quite hefty.
Like the Clothes is quite different, basically overhaul Everette's Design
And there's the mysterious King-like guy who also just like Everett's Brother
No not all, some of the Mule and Everett might be used, like for example the one in alleyway in regular clothing might be something to looking for in the future, since Stan discribed it as them being on a date after they reunite, so Hyao might build a moment around it, since Stan was making a regular outfit sprite for Everett that looked like the one in the art. And the king is Stan OC Chivel, that is just a fan art of them all together, some people beg for him to be added into a game ( since he is sluty power bottom ) but Hyao said no, and for the others who knows, Stan did alot like realy alot of art of Mule and Everett both in present and in the past ( for example the picture of young Everett riding a dick is the first time he have sex with him, and according to what Stan said about Mule is that he is Everetts first lover from the past before he become commander ) but he always said that its what he made lore about them, so we would have to wait and see what Hyao take out of it or make it cannon
 

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No not all, some of the Mule and Everett might be used, like for example the one in alleyway in regular clothing might be something to looking for in the future, since Stan discribed it as them being on a date after they reunite, so Hyao might build a moment around it, since Stan was making a regular outfit sprite for Everett that looked like the one in the art. And the king is Stan OC Chivel, that is just a fan art of them all together, some people beg for him to be added into a game ( since he is sluty power bottom ) but Hyao said no, and for the others who knows, Stan did alot like realy alot of art of Mule and Everett both in present and in the past ( for example the picture of young Everett riding a dick is the first time he have sex with him, and according to what Stan said about Mule is that he is Everetts first lover from the past before he become commander ) but he always said that its what he made lore about them, so we would have to wait and see what Hyao take out of it or make it cannon
TBH StanG should probably be making Comic, not just single pieces at this rate. Like a side project or fan-disc.
Then there will be no pressure whether his arts are used in game or not.
Has he tried it yet? Or it's too much commitment for his liking?
 

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TBH StanG should probably be making Comic, not just single pieces at this rate. Like a side project or fan-disc.
Then there will be no pressure whether his arts are used in game or not.
Has he tried it yet? Or it's too much commitment for his liking?
He said that he want to do comics but he is not good at paneling
Well I personaly don't mind not knowing if what he draws will end up in the game or not, maybe its actualy even for better since it might be a source of insipartion for Hyao, like if he find picture likable then he would build up moment in the game around it, same for Mule and Everett, Hyao literary can take and build their relationship based on what Stans imagination about them, so we might not only get moments from present time but also a flashback moments about them and maybe see how they relationship turned out and happened that may get accompanied by previous art about them, plus since Mule was originaly Stan character I asume Hyao will take his input and interpritation of what he made out about them, so wenever he post something its always a gues if its gonna end up in the game or not, so it kinda build up anticipation for me personaly for what posible to come in the future
Plus I think he doing it on purpose, drawing it cuz he wanted to draw it but with in game in mind, so that if Hyao would want to use it he is free to do so, I think he even said that once on stream
 
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He said that he want to do comics but he is not good at paneling
Well I personaly don't mind not knowing if what he draws will end up in the game or not, maybe its actualy even for better since it might be a source of insipartion for Hyao, like if he find picture likable then he would build up moment in the game around it, same for Mule and Everett, Hyao literary can take and build their relationship based on what Stans imagination about them, so we might not only get moments from present time but also a flashback moments about them and maybe see how they relationship turned out and happened that may get accompanied by previous art about them, plus since Mule was originaly Stan character I asume Hyao will take his input and interpritation of what he made out about them, so wenever he post something its always a gues if its gonna end up in the game or not, so it kinda build up anticipation for me personaly for what posible to come in the future
Plus I think he doing it on purpose, drawing it cuz he wanted to draw it but with in game in mind, so that if Hyao would want to use it he is free to do so, I think he even said that once on stream
Everyone hs to start somewhere.

Also this is not about whether you mind it or not,
There will be tension built up everytime Hyao Reject StanG's work, it wont be much on its own, but it adds up.
I didn't realise StanG is so creatively invested in it, But Hyao is the only one who holds full power.
The dynamic becomes "StanG does Everything for LD / Hyao", Not "Both are working on the project equally" anymore.
(It won't be too much a problem if StanG just draw random pieces here and there, alas)

On top of that, Fans "Wanting StanG's work in game but Hyao Doesn't want" also adds friction / Pressure.

I don't know about StanG but creators generally want their creations shown,
Hence StanG needs to find ways to express / let out, By Comics, concept art book, etc.
That's also the reason why Super Creative Devs are often working on side Projects, so their ideas won't be locked up.

This doesn't affect how Hyao use StanG's art, in fact, by expressing himself better, Hyao could draw better inspiration from StanG.
 
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Everyone hs to start somewhere.

Also this is not about whether you mind it or not,
There will be tension built up everytime Hyao Reject StanG's work, it wont be much on its own, but it adds up.
I didn't realise StanG is so creatively invested in it, But Hyao is the only one who holds full power.
The dynamic becomes "StanG does Everything for LD / Hyao", Not "Both are working on the project equally" anymore.
(It won't be too much a problem if StanG just draw random pieces here and there, alas)

On top of that, Fans "Wanting StanG's work in game but Hyao Doesn't want" also adds friction / Pressure.

I don't know about StanG but creators generally want their creations shown,
Hence StanG needs to find ways to express / let out, By Comics, concept art book, etc.
That's also the reason why Super Creative Devs are often working on side Projects, so their ideas won't be locked up.

This doesn't affect how Hyao use StanG's art, in fact, by expressing himself better, Hyao could draw better inspiration from StanG.
Oh you probably missunderstood, Stan doesnt drawing them for Hyao, he draws them cuz he wants to without any expectation for it to end up in the game, he just draw them with game in mind so that if Hyao wishes he could use them, he always said that all stuff that he does in regards LD in his free time is something that he want do draw not something that he expect to be used in game, if Hyao like it then he free to use it, cuz he always post them on telegram and his socials, so there is no expectations that it should be added into the game
 

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Here is the finished art of Everett vigorous cock training, it looks like a CG but it's not.
Oddly enough, StanG (the official artist) draws a lot of fan art(?) for the game. He really likes Everett and his King OC.

I think the King is technically a canon character, he's been loosely mentioned maybe once? But the unofficial art is the only way we've seen him so far.
 

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Oddly enough, StanG (the official artist) draws a lot of fan art(?) for the game. He really likes Everett and his King OC.

I think the King is technically a canon character, he's been loosely mentioned maybe once? But the unofficial art is the only way we've seen him so far.
King is non canon ( at least this one ), since Stan said that Hyao said that he will not add him to the game when people are asked for him to be added ( since some people realy want annapolagetic proud power bottom character in the game ), and Stan said that the reason he draw King, Everett and Mule all together due to originaly Mule was designed as personal guard for the King before he was snatched to be a future character in the game
 
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