The only thing I can think of is more mild mind control(corruption?) to see the MC as more attractive or make the character start to feel horny for the MC. Things that influence the character but still allow them to make a conscious decision to fuck the MC.
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I think, as I've already said, that this would work well for amplifying effects. It would certainly be a less intrusive form of mind control, being more focused on the control of emotions, but I think it would work very well for a romantic route, and would also speed it up quite a bit. Also, in this case the LIs keep their will intact: everything they do is because they want to do it, the MC just helps them realize it earlier.
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It's true. If for whatever reason there is no other way to get closer to the girls with out using the power then that's probably a good way to go about it. Even still, the game will have to start letting the player actually make choices and use the power. I still don't see why it wouldn't be possible to you know, use your words, and just talk to them... How hard is it to say "Hey, I think your pretty cool."
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I'm planning to add some form of corruption for the girls if you use mind control a number of times. This way they will become much more lewd and proactive due to the side effect and will stay pure and wholesome if not affected. This is the best way I can think of right now.
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Don't you always have to use it, or do you mean just for sex? Have you planned anything for progressing with them other than that?
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I think that will work better if you do it for when the MC uses mind control to have sex. If the MC has to use mind control to feed himself, he will end up corrupting all the LIs at some point.
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I'm not even sure why he needs to use it at all for some of them. Ai and Hana openly tell the MC that they can feed him. So what's the point of controlling them and changing their memories? If anything feeding on them without using the control is a good way to actually get more intimate with them. They also wouldn't miraculously loose their memories, which is a huge roadblock in progressing with the characters.
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On the topic of memories. Like you I haven't used the power at all to sleep with them but I'm curious, how that will even work in the future. Gloria says that most of the girls are virgins so do they just not realize that's no longer the case? What happens when they find out that the MC has raped them and stole their virginity. Are they just going to be like "Oh, don't worry about it it's fine".
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It will only corrupt them if used for sex. their character quest will progress their relationship normally.
Basically what BlasKyau said
You control them to have sex, the feeding thing will only happen occasionally in the story.
If you use mind control to have sex with them, they will be corrupted by then so they will be fine with it.
So, what I get is that I need to add more activity to progress the relationship with the girls that doesn't involve mind control, is that right?
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I think you may have to? As it stands the only way to do anything in a physical or even a personal way is to use the mind control. Again, I get that it is his power but does it have to be the only way to gain some ground with the LIs? Though as of right now no one in the game is an actual LI because there are zero ways to actually progress with them. They are little more than puppets used for throw away lewd scenes.
I still think the biggest issue comes back to the complete lack of player agency so far. This is very, very, linier as of right now and unless you start letting the player make some decisions for them selves most will likely just get bored. I know I was starting to because it was just walls of text and I never really had the feeling of "playing" something, if you know what I mean. Right now it's a KN with more steps.
I'm not a fan of corruption really but different strokes. It's completely unbelievable to me that they can get so corrupted by that that they just shrug off being a sock puppet. But that's just me so it would be nice to be able to go about it a different way. If not, me myself, won't stick around to see how this one finishes. But there will always be people who are happy with a "simple porn game". I guess it takes more for me to stay invested.
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Alright, so:
- Add normal hangout activity besides adding mind control (This is still a mind control fetish game so still need to focus on that).
- Add more dialogue choices that lead to different outcomes.
- Add a system where the girls will either be corrupted when used to have sex or stay pure if not.
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(1) It would also help with the barren freeroam that is there. It isn't being utilized at all really so I'm not sure why it's there. Unless you designed it for the sole purpose of going to a house to control them. I think focusing on it is one thing but "Only" doing that is something else entirely. Also on the topic of the freeroam, is there any particular reason you split the two overworld maps apart? Why is it not just one town map?
(2) You don't even have to go crazy with it or anything. But everything is so static right now that it's just like sitting down with a picture book. There are a lot of opportunities that are perfect setups to let the play actually do something. Just one example, going to sleep with Ai and letting the player actually speak. I mean, they are inches apart and the whole scene is "Goodnight > "Mind Control". It's just so hollow.
(3) I can't add too much to that because I have no way of knowing where you even plan to start with that. But I will say that it would be very nice to have something to balance out the excessive use of the power. To me it's really starting to look like a one trick pony, for lack of a better term.
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- The map will be too cramped without the toggle.
- Didn't think about it that way, I will make changes to it and future quests.
- I will keep this in mind, thank you for your feedback.
I really like how the game is now love mind control where we can fully use from the start if you do change it up please don't lose the game's identity by trying to appease everyone
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This is how I felt the first time playing as well. Ultimately it has caused me to lose all interest in the game and story. I didnt do any of it where possible anyway and it seemed like the lewd scenes were not going to happen organically.
Mind control in general is not something I look for but I am ok with "power of suggestion" to pick at underlying desires that are already present in the "victims" but I am really not into "stone cold mind control". I see that as rape honestly because they are not aware iirc. I think MC does tell the first girl about it. Correct me if I am wrong its been a while.
I still check the thread to see if anything has changed but I have mostly decided it's probably just not for me. A few here seem to really enjoy it so...
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Just played it and man pacing and way story is told failed to get me invested.
It is like starting to play the game where story is already at midway or something.
There is no build up and stuff happens out of nowhere so I didn't care about it.
MC being just released and being weak is pointless when he has power to do anything
right off the bat. Meet girl > fuck girl, where is the fun in that ? It would be interesting
if there were consequences that would shape the story and venture into dark side
but no it just scene for sake of scene.
Scene are hot because of everything that leads to them and whole situation instead of
click and get some animations.
When MC has powers like this it needs to make sense in context of its story.
Putting limitations on powers to create compelling story wouldn't be the worst thing.
I understand the idea behind being able to just use power but it needs to be satisfying and to
serve the story. If we are some evil mother fucker so be it go all the way with but then set up
game as such and make those situations.
There is so much more to talk about this but at this point I don't even understand what what dev is
trying to achieve.
It is like starting to play the game where story is already at midway or something.
There is no build up and stuff happens out of nowhere so I didn't care about it.
MC being just released and being weak is pointless when he has power to do anything
right off the bat. Meet girl > fuck girl, where is the fun in that ? It would be interesting
if there were consequences that would shape the story and venture into dark side
but no it just scene for sake of scene.
Scene are hot because of everything that leads to them and whole situation instead of
click and get some animations.
When MC has powers like this it needs to make sense in context of its story.
Putting limitations on powers to create compelling story wouldn't be the worst thing.
I understand the idea behind being able to just use power but it needs to be satisfying and to
serve the story. If we are some evil mother fucker so be it go all the way with but then set up
game as such and make those situations.
There is so much more to talk about this but at this point I don't even understand what what dev is
trying to achieve.
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Well, so far I haven't seen any sex scenes during the game. They're there, but I haven't played them. So you don't really need to do them if you don't want to.
I think we differ on what we consider a hot scene.