Who's your favourite girl so far?

  • Amber

    Votes: 442 18.1%
  • Cynthia

    Votes: 366 15.0%
  • Tiffany

    Votes: 433 17.7%
  • Savannah

    Votes: 437 17.9%
  • Kayla

    Votes: 1,224 50.0%
  • Yana

    Votes: 420 17.2%
  • Isabella

    Votes: 372 15.2%
  • Jane

    Votes: 253 10.3%

  • Total voters
    2,448

YogSothoth1982

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The developer also said he will make sure that there's enough non-ntr scenes for those who choose not to go down that path. What's your mentality when you purposely cut off only half of a sentence? Poor guy.
I've started the game, not that I've made huge progress, but the problem I have is that, although you can avoid NTR, the feeling is that basically the game is NTR and you can only try to avoid it. Personally I prefer that the route without NTR feels like the MC is making a his harem and that the NTR doesn't even appear as a remote reference.

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Also, in my opinion, to have enough non-NTR scenes the Dev should make a non-NTR scene for every NTR scene. For now that doesn't happen in the game.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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I've started the game, not that I've made huge progress, but the problem I have is that, although you can avoid NTR, the feeling is that basically the game is NTR and you can only try to avoid it. Personally I prefer that the route without NTR feels like the MC is making a his harem and that the NTR doesn't even appear as a remote reference.

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Also, in my opinion, to have enough non-NTR scenes the Dev should make a non-NTR scene for every NTR scene. For now that doesn't happen in the game.
I mean I guess, assuming people agree it should be 50-50 which im not sure of (im not a patron).... though in this version there really only are 2 sex scenes with 1 of those not having a vanilla analog, so it's not a huge presentation.
 
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YogSothoth1982

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I mean I guess, assuming people agree it should be 50-50 which im not sure of (im not a patron).... though in this version there really only are 2 sex scenes with 1 of those not having a vanilla analog, so it's not a huge presentation.
The problem is that if I play and I see how appear red choices (a NTR sex scene) and the MC doesn't have any sex scene, it's evident that the game isn't going to be for those who don't like NTR. In fact, even if it's one every two scenes, you know that the other route has twice as much as the one you are following. And that certainly doesn't feel like enough.

Furthermore, beyond avoiding the NTR (and not voluntarily), it isn't felt that the MC has any objective towards the LIs. It may be a very good NTR game, but as a non-NTR game it's not particularly good, it's actually quite mediocre, bordering on bad.
 

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Furthermore, beyond avoiding the NTR (and not voluntarily), it isn't felt that the MC has any objective towards the LIs. It may be a very good NTR game, but as a non-NTR game it's not particularly good, it's actually quite mediocre, bordering on bad.
Shrug, to each their own, I like the pirate setting, and I think the setup of bringing your gf, friend and his family along on a pirate ship is interesting. As for goals, presumably he wants to try and get with some of the friend's family like the sisters.
 
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YogSothoth1982

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Shrug, to each their own, I like the pirate setting, and I think the setup of bringing your gf, friend and his family along on a pirate ship is interesting. As for goals, presumably he wants to try and get with some of the friend's family like the sisters.
The premise is okay, what doesn't convince me is how the non-NTR part of the game is developed: It's a NTR game where you can make the NTR not happen, so the NTR feeling is always there. As I say, the feeling is that you aren't making your own harem (which I hope is the goal if you follow the non-NTR route), nor even of being "defending" the LIs (since the MC doesn't consciously avoid it, he's just "lucky" to have chosen well). If you add to this that we sure have a lot of less scenes than the NTR route... The conclusion is that is a good NTR game and a bad non NTR game.

In any case, if the game isn't going to have a harem ending where the MC has all the LIs for himself, the game isn't going to interest me.
 

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The premise is okay, what doesn't convince me is how the non-NTR part of the game is developed: It's a NTR game where you can make the NTR not happen, so the NTR feeling is always there. As I say, the feeling is that you aren't making your own harem (which I hope is the goal if you follow the non-NTR route), nor even of being "defending" the LIs (since the MC doesn't consciously avoid it, he's just "lucky" to have chosen well). If you add to this that we sure have a lot of less scenes than the NTR route... The conclusion is that is a good NTR game and a bad non NTR game.

In any case, if the game isn't going to have a harem ending where the MC has all the LIs for himself, the game isn't going to interest me.
it's an ntr game with an optional vanilla route, the overview described what the entire game is based on, and with every ugly bastard you meet you'll just be reminded it is an ntr game at its core, I agree with your conclusion, good ntr game, bad vanilla game.
 

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it's an ntr game with an optional vanilla route, the overview described what the entire game is based on, and with every ugly bastard you meet you'll just be reminded it is an ntr game at its core, I agree with your conclusion, good ntr game, bad vanilla game.
Yah I still disagree with that, because as someone who generally plays ALL routes in a game, pure ntr games get boring real quick, and I wasn't bored here shagging the girlfriend on the rooftop and saving the girl in the tavern. No, there aren't as many screen renders but cmon, "bad game"? THat's a little harsh, there's tons of lazy garbage on this site i'd gladly never play.

I think the real problem is there's this idea of grass on the other side, just imagine, if the route choices where never present in game, and the intro chapter was was the vanilla path as played, no one would call it a bad game, they'd say it's the start of a cute little adventure on a pirate ship with your friend's family.
 
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YogSothoth1982

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Yah I still disagree with that, because as someone who generally plays ALL routes in a game, pure ntr games get boring real quick, and I wasn't bored here shagging the girlfriend on the rooftop and saving the girl in the tavern. No, there aren't as many screen renders but cmon, "bad game"? THat's a little harsh, there's tons of lazy garbage on this site i'd gladly never play.

I think the real problem is there's this idea of grass on the other side, just imagine, if the route choices where never present in game, and the intro chapter was was the vanilla path as played, no one would call it a bad game, they'd say it's the start of a cute little adventure on a pirate ship with your friend's family.
The problem is that, the way the game is developed, you are going to find out, whether you like it or not, what the difference in scenes is between the NTR route and the non-NTR route. And it can certainly be frustrating if it turns out that your route has less than half as many scenes as the other. A game I'm playing that, although focused on NTR, has a couple of non-NTR routes, develops them in a much more pleasant way for those who don't like NTR: Any possibility of NTR disappears if you follow a few steps at the beginning, and from that moment the experience is quite pleasant, focused on the relationship between the MC and his girlfriend (and on the insults and contempt that she gives to the ex-boyfriend who was going to do the NTR)

On the other hand, I don't have any kind of fetish about avoiding NTR, in fact it's something that I prefer not to even appear mentioned. For me the perfect non-NTR route would be one that eliminates all traces of possible NTR and leaves it with a vanilla experience in that regard.
 

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Yah I still disagree with that, because as someone who generally plays ALL routes in a game, pure ntr games get boring real quick, and I wasn't bored here shagging the girlfriend on the rooftop and saving the girl in the tavern. No, there aren't as many screen renders but cmon, "bad game"? THat's a little harsh, there's tons of lazy garbage on this site i'd gladly never play.

I think the real problem is there's this idea of grass on the other side, just imagine, if the route choices where never present in game, and the intro chapter was was the vanilla path as played, no one would call it a bad game, they'd say it's the start of a cute little adventure on a pirate ship with your friend's family.
I'd say what makes it, maybe not a bad game, but not a very good one... is the choices so far are pretty much, "NTR or nah...". These aren't meaningful choices and that pretty much ruins the experience. At least for me. Take that first scene, for example... "oh... if I choose to swim longer my girlfriend gets raped! Oh man, that's so hawt!" :HideThePain: The second one wasn't so bad... but I had to help the girl out.
 
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I'd say what makes it, maybe not a bad game, but not a very good one... is the choices so far are pretty much, "NTR or nah...". These aren't meaningful choices and that pretty much ruins the experience. At least for me. Take that first scene, for example... "oh... if I choose to swim longer my girlfriend gets raped! Oh man, that's so hawt!" :HideThePain: The second one wasn't so bad... but I had to help the girl out.
ofc, and im being facile in these ntr discussions because it's clear what the focus is, I just tend to bristle and defend any game when it's attacked for not being "100% surgeon's general grade A harem".

But yeah, I'm guessing our styles are similar and I was grossed out especially by the first, would be 10 times hotter if the gf said to the bf "you think I should tease that old fisherman over there" or something along those lines.

I'm resigned to the fact that the vast majority of ntr games play like this; the characters exist in a world where "they aren't choosing those actions" persay.....even though the player is....
 
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Joshy92

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So if netorare is the focus does that mean there won't be any romance with the girlfriend?
Also will I have to bang all the girls?

Also if the game is more focused on netorare the dev should should say so on patreon not everyone uses discord.
Or maybe he has said that on patreon?
 
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finally a game that delivers what i look for in a porn game, decent story and great amount of sex, especially for a first release. great renders, great animations, and even has moaning sounds in sex scenes. what more could you want. no bullshit blue balling and reading essays for half a decade like AWAM, JOHN or APM, fuck those milkers. i even remember the dev of JOHN was throwing shade at games like that, and he became the very same lmao. i only hope this one keeps going with full speed and doesn't get abandoned. nice work dev
 

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That was an excellent first update. I loved both the vanilla as well as the NTR scenes.

I would suggest that the LIs would feel jealousy when MC chooses one LI over the other which pushes them towards one of the other guys. Unless if the LI and the other LI have an understanding between each other.

The MC also looks too much of a softboy for him to work as a pirate. I think it might work if he is a little extra or if he looks more manlier.
 

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So the dev said it would be mostly NTR focused. But let's get real, people here take any sex-scene not involving the MC as NTR. And I bet that is what the dev means. That there will be a lot of content where the girls are getting it with other males.
But really, it is only NTR when MC's girl is getting railed. So if you take it as that, chances are you could actually play and cover a lot of scenes without having "actual NTR" in your run. MC just not being aware, or being a voyeur, threesomes, orgies, etc.
In may case, I don't give a shit as I can't immerse myself too much. For that to happen in a VN, the writing, ambiance, etc. need to be fantastic. I am just here for the hot scenes.
 
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The problem is that, the way the game is developed, you are going to find out, whether you like it or not, what the difference in scenes is between the NTR route and the non-NTR route. And it can certainly be frustrating if it turns out that your route has less than half as many scenes as the other. A game I'm playing that, although focused on NTR, has a couple of non-NTR routes, develops them in a much more pleasant way for those who don't like NTR: Any possibility of NTR disappears if you follow a few steps at the beginning, and from that moment the experience is quite pleasant, focused on the relationship between the MC and his girlfriend (and on the insults and contempt that she gives to the ex-boyfriend who was going to do the NTR)

On the other hand, I don't have any kind of fetish about avoiding NTR, in fact it's something that I prefer not to even appear mentioned. For me the perfect non-NTR route would be one that eliminates all traces of possible NTR and leaves it with a vanilla experience in that regard.
Which game are you talking about? I'd like to try it :)
 

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The problem is that if I play and I see how appear red choices (a NTR sex scene) and the MC doesn't have any sex scene, it's evident that the game isn't going to be for those who don't like NTR. In fact, even if it's one every two scenes, you know that the other route has twice as much as the one you are following. And that certainly doesn't feel like enough.

Furthermore, beyond avoiding the NTR (and not voluntarily), it isn't felt that the MC has any objective towards the LIs. It may be a very good NTR game, but as a non-NTR game it's not particularly good, it's actually quite mediocre, bordering on bad.
I used to think it was a pity that MC didn't have sex with Jane about your question, but later I talked to the developer and he said he was also thinking about whether to let MC have sex with Jane. But later he told me that MC and Jane are only meeting for the first time, and MC also had a girlfriend, so the developer decided to keep the sexual scene between MC and Jane for future content. It's open for the future, so there will be plenty of action available for MC.

I don't know if you are satisfied with this answer, but it is acceptable to me :)
 

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I used to think it was a pity that MC didn't have sex with Jane about your question, but later I talked to the developer and he said he was also thinking about whether to let MC have sex with Jane. But later he told me that MC and Jane are only meeting for the first time, and MC also had a girlfriend, so the developer decided to keep the sexual scene between MC and Jane for future content. It's open for the future, so there will be plenty of action available for MC.

I don't know if you are satisfied with this answer, but it is acceptable to me :)
I never got to that point in the game to be able to say whether it seemed good or bad to me. I haven't gone beyond the first choice, the feeling I had is that "it has to be done to avoid the NTR" rather than "I'm going to enjoy a good experience with my girlfriend." Personally I prefer to deactivate the NTR before starting the game or at some point in the intro of the game and thus, in addition to not having to deal with it, have the feeling that it doesn't exist.

As I say, as far as I have gotten, the feeling I have had is more that the non-NTR choices are more focused on avoiding the NTR than on building something between the MC and the LIs. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's the feeling that I have.
 
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