Anyone have mostly black college 2?
u have the finished Version as well ? Would be amazing!!Mostly Black College 2 (unfinished)
Anyone have mostly black college 2?
u have the finished Version as well ? Would be amazing!!Mostly Black College 2 (unfinished)
Yeah that's what I was kinda thinking too.well, I guess I’m kind in the mindset cause when I come here I’m in the mood, looking for some sissy fantasies. But, it would be very weird if someone you don’t know just call you like that just because, I think it may be kind of rude.
Very nice. You are quite the naughty minx! The pic almost makes you look like you have little hair puffs, like Chung Li from street fighter.but hey, I just update my profile pic, I may look like one now
hehehe thanks, those are just some flowers in my little ponytails but ur rightYeah that's what I was kinda thinking too.
Very nice. You are quite the naughty minx! The pic almost makes you look like you have little hair puffs, like Chung Li from street fighter.
Great Job, Love the Story line you're doing Keep it upPreface
Gonna give a bit of personal view on what made me start doing all this with editing comics. Yes I have a strong opinion on this, which is why I'm motivated to what I'm doing. If I didn't I wouldn't give a shit.
Also to be clear, I do not hate or despise VS's work. I'm a fan of it. I think it's great. But I do see how it, and the genre itself, could be better. If I don't point out what's wrong, you can't see how it can be even better - and to maybe inspire some of the content creators (either those who read these forums directly, or by world of mouth).
Lastly, despite this being a lot of text, this is not a rant. I'm a creative writer and text is important to me. If I read all this out loud, it would be like a 5 minute conversation. This is an opinion piece.
So here it is, if you the person reading this are so curious.
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There is this dialogue that takes place in SPS2 P5. Daphne and Lollipop are discussing their new living arrangement and Daphne refers to a previous video that we don't see where Lollipop was clearly enjoying herself with two men. It's the spit roasted comment.
That's pretty much what started me off with going in and editing comic works, because I was like.. how you gonna talk about that and not show it? That's a massive missed opportunity. I see this time and again and it is not exclusive to VS's work. Not even remotely.
As much as I enjoy the final page of SPS1, the leap from giving your first blowjob to suddenly being told you're going to have sex with your first man, no wait rather to full blown actual gangbang one panel later... again... huge missed opportunity. Plus that was the first time Lollipop actually engages in sexual intercourse with a man anally. There's not even a build up in that sequence that would explain how he got there mentally or even physically. There's no 'easing into the role', or even the 'easing in of the pole' (har har wink wink), if you get me with the sissy and becoming accepting of the role little by little.
Instead, it's just a robot-like response like they've been reprogrammed (like brainwashing, which again is common in these femdom transition comics). Occasionally we get their thoughts like "oh shit!" but nothing that actually conveys their view. We never see the mental transition take place with Lonnie/Lollipop specifically. Is Daphne slipping in mind control drugs, hormone blockers, or even estrogen with Lonnie's diet we don't know of? Maybe it's hypnosis? Why does Lonnie frequently have this drugged blank look on his face?
Is this common to sissys? I sincerely doubt it. So I don't get the 'fantasy' these creators trying to touch on to attract actual fans of the femdom fantasy. It all just reads like profoundly missed targeting. Like it's a side gig to make a quick buck. It's not a fans for fans situation I actually understand what you're into because to a degree so am I. Or I can kinda sorta relate or maybe I just know some people who are into this and actually talked to them about it.
So for Lonnie it is just wham bam I'm in a gangbang with 4 guys now ok yeah sure wutever I don't have a brain or opinion or even thought on it (notice Lollipop lacks any response at all when Daphne conveys this information that Lollipop is momentarily going to be having sex with multiple men for the first time ever). Hell he/she doesn't even have a stupefied 'Gee wiz OK Mistress drp drp' comment to make.
I don't see anyone ever going from sucking a guys dick one time and riding their fem dom's strapon to suddenly being ok with a full blown sexual encounter - especially with 4 guys. I don't care how long they have been in a cage and dressed up, that's a huge leap! Plus there's just no build up to it. There's no hinting of inner conflict. That's the thing that I dislike about most of these comics. There is no internal conflict that is present, which exists in real people and is part of the allure of it all. The proverbial 'I want to but I shouldn't' aka the temptation of desire. Lust!
But the thought came to me, 'what would that look like?' if we saw the encounter Daphne is referring to? So I started building it out. And then I started thinking of 'what if Daphne was just referring to the start of that video? And it actually ended up somewhere else entirely and went on a lot longer than she even planned because of Lollipop? Thus clearly signaling Lonnie's male persona being dominated by an asserting Lollipop persona. All this because of uncontrollable reflexive lust that the character wasn't aware of, or can control, that was first discovered back in SPS1. Where it was cultivated and allowed to grow until it comes to a huge mental shift with explosive results?
If you add in a more believable transition over the course of SPS1 with some inner conflict, some foreshadowing, then this conversation in SPS2 P5, with some slight changes, becomes monumental in the characters development. Then all the proceeding content and following need to lead up to and reflect this dynamic shift in their mentality and the dynamic of Lonnie/Lollipop and Daphne's relationship.
Then you can start tossing in subtext and plots and thicken the stew, because now you can even add to the Daphne character and what they are going thru as well. Oh boy! Then the comic builds more value, as it moves away from simply a race to get to the sub or sex scenes. It ultimately becomes... relatable. And in doing so all scenes become elevated. Toss in increased detail on the sex scenes as well... you got a beast of a comic.
TL;DR
So this shot here, is a reduced size and quality clip-out shot from one panel of a 10 panel page that takes place within the re-worked SPS2 P5 timeline. It's the video Daphne is referring to there, but that video was intended to be a quick 30 minute video, but because of Lollipop's sissy persona has now dominated Lonnie, it's about 2 hours later and the camera battery is about to run out. A massive mental shift has begun to take place, and during their conversation this evening reflecting on it, this primaily takes place in Lollipop/Lonnie's head, leading to a drastic change in the story from this point on.
The other thing I also decided to do, was attempt to inject some humor here and there. So the tone changes page by page, even panel by panel at times, tho it's a believable transition. And well some more descriptive wording on what is taking place and how the characters are feeling or the sounds they are making or thoughts bouncing around in their heads.
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Thank you! Here's some more insight into what is coming and why.Great Job, Love the Story line you're doing Keep it up
This is so good I can't wait to see itThank you! Here's some more insight into what is coming and why.
SPS1 P1 never made sense to me. A lot of the dialogue needs to change in that to paint a much more grim situation that's going to lead them down this road, and the two main characters relationship and personalities need tweaking. For example, trying to establish Lonnie as a 'chad' type of guy with his 'babe' comments towards his wife never lined up with his character as presented - both in his behavior later and how he is drawn. He doesn't have the body language, or physique, or mindset of a 'chad' so shouldn't be talking like one. He's more of a dedicated and endearing guy, not a roid-head.
They don't even mention going on government assistance or debt consolidation or working with their bank or asking their families for help (which is even more odd when Lonnie makes the comment about 'what if my mom sees this <porn>?', thus indicating they are in good relations with their family).
This first establishing page paints an unrealistic image primarily from the dialogue. Story wise it just doesn't establish the necessary situation and characters to travel the path presented. The wording doesn't match up with the visuals. That whole first page is like a bad dub. I'm not sure if VS writes his own dialogue, but it is obvious he's not a native English speaker, so that may or may not have something to do with the word choices.
In my previous post I mentioned how there could be work on Daphne's journey as well. This page is very important for her character development, her foundation needs strengthening substantially to allow for it. The following 4 pages are the bulk of her mental journey going from demure to domineering. While Lonnie begins to physically transition in SPS1 P5, his mental transition starts much later in the overall story On P7 when he sees himself in the mirror for the first time and is stunned by what he sees.
That's actually a huge moment that is completely underscored in the story. That is a major mental moment for people in that situation. It's practically life changing! Right? There is at least one major Hollywood movie that covers this and treats it accordingly, and it's based on a real person's experience. Yet here we get one measly panel that gives minimal character development.
Also, there is no indication thru text or visuals that Lonnie is experiencing what many in this situation experience - the visual physical distortion of their self image to a more feminine one. In other words, they see themselves as a woman not as a man in drag. Their perceptions of their own image in the mirror alter to suit what is ultimately... a more desirable reflection. This is why it is common for folks in this situation, with these feelings, to see one thing in the mirror and the 'guy in drag' when they see pictures of themselves. The moving real-time image in the mirror is easier for the brain to manipulate the image, vs a static flat image. This is why when anyone looks in the mirror, if you keep moving you look better vs standing dead still and starring at yourself.
Additionally, there aren't even any comments on how it FEELS to Lonnie while looking at himself in the mirror wearing what he is wearing, having gone thru the events leading up to it, and how his skin feels or how he even smells. Not just what he sees, but how he feels seeing what he now sees in the mirror. Daphne had him do a full body shave. It's highly unlikely he's ever done this before. She probably treated his body with perfumes and lotions as well to really make his skin/body FEEL feminine.
Yet... not even addressed. Instead it is completely disregarded to hurry to a sex scene.
Now this is a peeve I have with the artistry. The writing indicates Daphne is an great stylist but we never see a great stylist at work. Lollipop has like zero actual make-up on in every single presentation of her. Its like maybe some foundation and a little eyeliner, that's it. Nothing else. That's not a 'great stylist' at work. Additionally, in order to help with the aforementioned major mental beat in Lonnie seeing himself as Lollipop for the first time, a bit more make-up to further feminize his facial features, goes a long way towards that.
You saw how I turned her 'goth' in a previous image, right? Well here, in the re-worked one I'm putting together, she's turned into a 'baby doll' via alterations to her physical (face and body) and make-up scheme. He's made to look adorable and have things line-up with that 'little virgin girl' white outfit that VS did appropriately pick for this scene. Tho I'm tweaking some of the white coloring to be a little more appropriate and coinciding that with my typical enhancement of the hosiery/garters.
Additionally, in SPS1 P7 the reworked version Lonnie SEES himself as a woman that first time looking back at him. Daphne doesn't just give him a wig and a non-existant makeup job, but a professional makeup job, a wig, and falsies. This major mental moment for the character is recognized and treated and started in a more realistic fashion. You get to see his inner thoughts about what he sees and isn't sharing with his wife. That page specifically is about 1/3rd done. IMHO this entire page is missing so much necessary dialogue, both for Lonnie and even Daphne.
Not to be insulting, but this is becasue you are ignorant of the process. Often times the writing and drawing is done by 2 different people and stuff gets lost in the process. Then there is stuff you just can't show because it would take too many panels. Then a lot of times the best artist and cheapest artist are not native English speakers. And because piracy is so big (you have people that would pay but do not becasue of paper trail) and the customer base is so small with this niche product, the artist can not pay their bills making them. Then you usually have 3 hands, artist, writers, and middleman (lustomic, devin) that need to get paid. You are lucky to make $1,500-$2,000 on a 20 6 panel page comic that can take 3-4 months to make. So if you have the free time and ability to make you own comics, I suggest you start making them and post them here instead of complaining about the works you steal for free.Preface
Gonna give a bit of personal view on what made me start doing all this with editing comics. Yes I have a strong opinion on this, which is why I'm motivated to what I'm doing. If I didn't I wouldn't give a shit.
Also to be clear, I do not hate or despise VS's work. I'm a fan of it. I think it's great. But I do see how it, and the genre itself, could be better. If I don't point out what's wrong, you can't see how it can be even better - and to maybe inspire some of the content creators (either those who read these forums directly, or by world of mouth).
Lastly, despite this being a lot of text, this is not a rant. I'm a creative writer and text is important to me. If I read all this out loud, it would be like a 5 minute conversation. This is an opinion piece.
So here it is, if you the person reading this are so curious.
Preface
"Gonna give a bit of personal view on what made me start doing all this with editing comics. Yes I have a strong opinion on this, which is why I'm motivated to what I'm doing. If I didn't I wouldn't give a shit. "
Devin: I too in my early days of digital art, used to manipulate and change the dialog of the scenes to bend them to my more specific tastes, and in the days before much sissy toons, even went as far as adding small penises to submissive flat chested toons to get the desired affect. Some of those are still on my Imagefap.
Devin: Shortly after I was contacted by a few of the artists... Kami Tora and a few others, that gave me praises for my endeavors but then requested that I take them down. I being a fan complied with them. I think there is a fine line between manipulating something for your own enjoyment and disrespecting that very artist that toiled over the work. It's hard for me to say that I haven't been there and made these mistakes, but if you feel like it would offend VS then maybe just consider that.
Also to be clear, I do not hate or despise VS's work. I'm a fan of it. I think it's great. But I do see how it, and the genre itself, could be better. If I don't point out what's wrong, you can't see how it can be even better - and to maybe inspire some of the content creators (either those who read these forums directly, or by world of mouth).
Devin: I don't get the feeling that you aren't acting out of malice, only in the quest to make something better. There is nothing I enjoy more than an individual that is trying to have a REAL CONVERSATION where hearts, minds, and hopes can be swayed to a better way of understanding.
There is this dialogue that takes place in SPS2 P5. Daphne and Lollipop are discussing their new living arrangement and Daphne refers to a previous video that we don't see where Lollipop was clearly enjoying herself with two men. It's the spit roasted comment.
"That's pretty much what started me off with going in and editing comic works, because I was like.. how you gonna talk about that and not show it? That's a massive missed opportunity. I see this time and again and it is not exclusive to VS's work. Not even remotely."
Devin: I feel you. It's easy to see the holes in the work after the i love VS's work and trust me when I say that there is nothing more that i would like to see than this sissy getting double teamed by two black guys. However I can inform you on why this happens in some of these comics. This is done I'm sure to normalize the situation that the sissy is in. That 2 cocks line is like an average situation for the sissy in question. It's to raise the stakes from the previous comic that things have escalated in a big way.
As much as I enjoy the final page of SPS1, the leap from giving your first blowjob to suddenly being told you're going to have sex with your first man, no wait rather to full blown actual gangbang one panel later... again... huge missed opportunity. Plus that was the first time Lollipop actually engages in sexual intercourse with a man anally. There's not even a build up in that sequence that would explain how he got there mentally or even physically. There's no 'easing into the role', or even the 'easing in of the pole' (har har wink wink), if you get me with the sissy and becoming accepting of the role little by little.
Devin: I feel this way too about the easing or transitioning into submission of characters. For me once (personally) once the wimp fully surrenders the story loses its tension. I do however understand why most artists speed into the sex elements or even "skip a few steps". It happens because the artists are fearful of wasting their time by not showing "ACTION" scenes. As much as some people love exposition and real lead up, a great deal of the market would prefer to get to the "ACTION".
Devin: However in cutting to a gang-bang is a big transition, but however the writer or artist might just simply wanting ot get to the scene that excites THEM (the gangbang in this case). Imagine if you were wanting to commission your own comic and was like "I want a sissy to be dominated and then end up in the gangbang". The artist might respond, "Well we can do that but we need X- amount of pages to tell that story". Then the writer or producer or EVEN the artist might be like "At 150/page, I think we don't need it" or the Artist might be like "I don't want to spend half a month drawing that just for a transition."
Instead, it's just a robot-like response like they've been reprogrammed (like brainwashing, which again is common in these Femdom transition comics). Occasionally we get their thoughts like "oh shit!" but nothing that actually conveys their view. We never see the mental transition take place with Lonnie/Lollipop specifically. Is Daphne slipping in mind control drugs, hormone blockers, or even estrogen with Lonnie's diet we don't know of? Maybe it's hypnosis? Why does Lonnie frequently have this drugged blank look on his face?
Devin: I can speak to the reason that sissy comics typically do this . Lustomic titles, relegate themselves to 15-20 pages MAX and often time the nuance of what the sub is feeling is left out on purpose for the effect of being more modular for the reader. Most people reading Sissy comics are sissies. And in taking a BOLD STANCE in where the sissy can lead to instantly bond with or alienate the sissy audience. By giving less insight the sissy in the comic is more flexible in it's transportive nature. Allowing the reader to fill in the gaps with their ideas of what the sissy might be feeling or doing.
Devin: In my comics, I love to put in the Sissy's thoughts, but I am keenly aware of how I feel when I read other's comics. Making the thoughts too specific can work in your favor or terribly against the reader in bonding with the "protagonist"
"Is this common to sissys? "
Devin: As a RL Sissy, I have to say that dressing and giving into carnal desires is very much drug like in the endorphins that run through you as part of you that you secretly embrace and the masculinity that you hold on to teeters in the internal conflict. 15-20 pages is not a lot of time to get the exposition, challenge and resolution out, with sexual tidbits. It's extremely challenging. That's why Nite Q is a CHAMPION. That guy can write a story very well, but in some instances like "Sissy Vacation" it feels like the story isn't completed.
"I sincerely doubt it. So I don't get the 'fantasy' these creators trying to touch on to attract actual fans of the femdom fantasy."
Devin: I have been a sub for many years. Seen many ProDommes, dated a Cuckoldress and a REAL DOMME, so I would like to think I am a good person to lean into the fact that I do represent a certain "SISSY-side" of the community. But not all Sissies are the same. Some want more NON-CON type experiences (More Prison Fantasy types from their alphas), some want an ease into their roles, some want it to be personal self discovery, and some just want to be slutty and have an excuse to do so.
Devin: I am an actual fan of VS, Nite Q, Voloh, and Bea. But what I think that is important to understand is the SOURCE for the content in which you speak. Lustomic was firstly created as a "FORCED FEMINIZATION" comic site. The idea that the character is being manipulated or coerced into the world of crossdressing. Ultimately the phrase alone "Forced Fem" is antiquated and not even truly acceptable as most sights won't even allow "Forced" to be used in any of their language. So it has been replaced more a more PC term, "ENCOURAGED" FEMINIZATION. As Lustomic, stems from Forced Fem that means that the content would follow suit. Being that most of their protagonists are RELUCTANT, SLAVES, or CLOSETED and made to go further in crossdressing than they wanted to.
Devin: Once understanding that, its easy to see why these comics don't go too far into the mindset of the "HERO". In doing so, you might accidentally reveal that the hero isn't TRULY ON BOARD with the sissy change, which kinda makes it "R4PEY". Imagine if the protests were more genuine in the mind of the sissys on the page. It might be wildly against what is happening to them, or it might be on the fence, or it might be all in slutty. Either way you just divided your audience by 3. Where as in NOT goingto deep in the mind leaves it open to reader interruption. "Maybe the sissy wants it here, maybe he's all in here"
"It all just reads like profoundly missed targeting."
Devin: You have to realize that the further niche we go into any genre, the easier it is to stray from the small variants in peoples personal kinks. Like on a map we may all want to go to Las Vegas. but once there some people want to go to gamble, and some want to go to shows, some what to go clubbing, and some want to hit the offbeat spots, and others want to go to more old town spots.
"Like it's a side gig to make a quick buck."
Devin: This is far from the truth.
1. Nothing about making a comic is "QUICK" The quickest VS page, probably takes him close to 2- 3 days to make 4 panels at the level he's operating at.
2. No one is making more than a little bit of money in Sissy comics. NO ONE is getting RICH. I can tell you from experience that anyone willing to make a Lustomic comic is doing it with a little bit of love for what they are doing on some level or another. There is just not enough money in the genre to be truly self sustainable. I spend like 80 percent of the proceeds on my site making new content and saving the rest for operational and taxes. The real reason we do it is because we enjoy it. i can't speak for VS personally, but he's easy to have a discourse with.
"I don't see anyone ever going from sucking a guys dick one time and riding their fem dom's strapon to suddenly being ok with a full blown sexual encounter - especially with 4 guys. I don't care how long they have been in a cage and dressed up, that's a huge leap! Plus there's just no build up to it. There's no hinting of inner conflict. That's the thing that I dislike about most of these comics. There is no internal conflict that is present, which exists in real people and is part of the allure of it all. The proverbial 'I want to but I shouldn't' aka the temptation of desire. Lust!"
Devin: This again, i think comes from the writer or artist. They make these things to appeal to where they want to go. Perhaps that person doesn't enjoy pegging as the transition. Maybe it's only secretly about being BISEXUAL with out the female guidance into sex. Maybe the transitioning of going straight to the REAL DICK is the more humiliating way to go for the creative in question. (I can't speak to that, as I didn't make this comic)
"But the thought came to me, 'what would that look like?' if we saw the encounter Daphne is referring to? So I started building it out. And then I started thinking of 'what if Daphne was just referring to the start of that video? And it actually ended up somewhere else entirely and went on a lot longer than she even planned because of Lollipop? Thus clearly signaling Lonnie's male persona being dominated by an asserting Lollipop persona. All this because of uncontrollable reflexive lust that the character wasn't aware of, or can control, that was first discovered back in SPS1. Where it was cultivated and allowed to grow until it comes to a huge mental shift with explosive results?"
Devin: I love that you dug into this story and mined out what you enjoyed and made transitions that you personally enjoy and that is enjoyed by others. Like I said I have been there and did the same thing with Jon Persons stuff a long time ago when I wanted more sissy stuff with IR and hardly NO ONE was doing much BBC.
Devin: However, I think there is (as I was made aware of by other artists) an ethical question about changing someone else's work or creations and sharing that. I think you are a talented, articulate and capable person, I don't understand why someone with that much skill doesn't simply create your own art, comic, raise funds and commission the stories that YOU wish to tell.
There are poser programs and artists that I can refer to you to see your vision fulfilled.
Devin: Hell, you might even submit a script to Lustomic or myself and see if its worth doing. Then you don't have to front the money and might make some scratch.
Devin: Bottom line, I think if you are going to continue doing mods, then just do them. I would leave the comments about that they didn't do as a negative criticism. These artists WORK their butts off on these comics for not much money, when you not only manipulate the work but I would suggest maybe not taking the "I-can-write-better-than-them" approach. Like I had said, you seem like a nice and smart guy. Just a touch of empathy for those whose work that you paint over.
Thanks for the legitimate feedback and dialogue. It's appreciated.@Llaaly
Look above and you'll see I responded inline to your comments and questions. I messed up and did it inside the quotation... sorry bout that, but it won't let me edit it now ....