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I mean, realistically neither Matt nor Serena really has a real choice at this point in this regard. It can be either "open relationship" with Serena still working, or if that's not to your taste then they indeed have to end things here.

Unless you do want the option for them to call it quits here, i guess.
Dev should keep in mind even if the good game,too much forced scene or lack of control on things make players unhappy.Patti are already not happy by she still forced to please Chris,I make ambience in the game to heavy.To compensate 2 things:
1/more choice for Matt/girls relationship

2/ make patti less corrupted the faster he can or Anna&matt plan make more progress
 

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OK, but this doesn't really explain why #1 there was any misunderstanding between the format of their relationship in the first place -- with Serena working as a prostitute there was obviously not going to be any exclusivity to speak of here and #2 if either of them did mistake their new relationship as exclusive then why both of them would immediately effectively cheat on their new partner without even giving it a thought..?
Serena was the one who initiated the conversation in the café. She was the one who wanted to clarify the essence of their relationship, and since she is an impulsive person (which is why she fell into Williams' clutches), instead of a calm discussion about what kind of relationship they have, she, due to her character, chose this dramatic path. But after that, she did not go home, but waited for Matt to say the words that he eventually said at the door of the café.

Maybe it looks silly, but between people who have feelings for each other (Matt also has feelings for Serena, despite the fact that he has sex with other girls) such scenes are not uncommon.

Serena and Anna sex scene can be completely avoided if the player wants it. But even if it happened, then it cannot be considered cheating. Both girls are straight and choose exclusively men as life partners. And lesbian sex for them is just a way to have a little fun.
I mean, realistically neither Matt nor Serena really has a real choice at this point in this regard. It can be either "open relationship" with Serena still working, or if that's not to your taste then they indeed have to end things here.
Yes, the choice here was only between two options: an open relationship with the prospect that one day they will develop into a normal relationship, or a complete cessation of any contact between them. And they chose the first option, and also said it out loud, which was important for both of them (for Serena it was a little more important).

2/ make patti less corrupted the faster he can or Anna&matt plan make more progress
Patti behaved rather mercenarily at the beginning of the game, and the situation she found herself in is a very natural result of her actions. But the player will definitely have the opportunity to influence her fate. That is why she is a game character.
 
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Maybe it looks silly, but between people who have feelings for each other (Matt also has feelings for Serena, despite the fact that he has sex with other girls) such scenes are not uncommon.
OK, but then how does this explain why suddenly neither Serena nor Matt are at all bothered by the fact Serena will be fucking other people (and Matt will now, too) even though literally five minutes ago it was evidently a problem for both of them? (with Matt making a long face at the very thought of it, and Serena being all dramatic about it) People who are uncomfortable with the idea that the person they have feelings for is fucking someone else don't just magically erase these uncomfortable feelings simply by saying "let's have open relationship". Yet this is what apparently happens here. That's the weird part.

Serena and Anna sex scene can be completely avoided if the player wants it. But even if it happened, then it cannot be considered cheating. Both girls are straight and choose exclusively men as life partners. And lesbian sex for them is just a way to have a little fun.
I'm sorry but this is just stupid porn game bullshit. Sex with person other than your partner behind the partner's back can and will be considered cheating in reality, no matter the gender. Ask any woman if her guy fucking another man is not cheating for her, and "just fun" since both dudes are officially "straight". And lesbian sex is lesbian sex, if your own gender turns you on and you get off on it this means you're bi, not "straight". Whether the person you fuck is "just for fun" or intended life partner doesn't matter squat for your sexual orientation. No matter what dumb excuse the person tells themselves.

(and, of course, none of these excuses apply to Matt fucking another girl, without a single thought paid to his oh-so-precious Serena he's supposedly in love with, and despite being in what may be exclusive relationship with her, at the point where that happens)

I realize it is a porn game at the end of the day, but having these tired tropes really doesn't help it, it's hard not to just roll one's eyes at them, with how stupid they are. Which is a shame, because otherwise the plot you're developing is decent and more interesting than what many other such games have to offer.
 
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U have answering for everything? Player take time to give their impressions,for valide reasons.

Explaination is good but end of day,player care only if he have control or not.

Don t take it wrong do u want a players who honest with u or not? Ramon/patti scens forced,mayor scenes forced.

U overdone the photographer banging Patti is another wrong.U was better if u made it with alternative. I doesn't matter why did the scenes

It is an overdose,give Patti a break there others girls.More varity are always welcome
 
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I'm sorry but this is just stupid porn game bullshit. Sex with person other than your partner behind the partner's back can and will be considered cheating in reality, no matter the gender.
Of course, all my explanations are applicable only within the framework of the genre in which the game is created.
U have answering for everything? Player take time to give their impressions,for valide reasons.
If the player has his own vision of certain events in the game, which differs from the author's vision - this does not mean that his vision is incorrect. The author can also be subjective, even in relation to his own work.

Regarding the fact that Patti needs a break - I am sure many players will disagree with you, but you are right, there are other girls in the game, and they are waiting for their turn. And they will definitely get it.
 
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Patti is the Fmc so she should have choices/alternative.
Patti is NOT the female main character, Anna is the female main character. The entire story revolves around Anna from the very beginning; the game is well designed so we can watch (naughty) events that involve others but they're not the fulcrum of the story. Anna is "the hero": she drives the entire story, she meets almost every character, she trains and guide Matt, she's THE female main character.
 
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Patti is NOT the female main character, Anna is the female main character. The entire story revolves around Anna from the very beginning; the game is well designed so we can watch (naughty) events that involve others but they're not the fulcrum of the story. Anna is "the hero": she drives the entire story, she meets almost every character, she trains and guide Matt, she's THE female main character.
Patti is the one of the FMCs, otherwise she would not be in so many scenes of this great game. :cool:
 

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Patti is the one of the FMCs, otherwise she would not be in so many scenes of this great game. :cool:
Not my point,i just stated she is the more important fmc in the game.Yes anna have many scenes but the game is about saving patti.Even if Anna didn't exist matt would find another way to save Patti.But i see from where u focusing about patti role come.

I see u are fan of fuckest hahha.
it only reproching him,he pushed to extreme patti scenes.

1/She act like a doll,not a character.He made her weak more than it should.

2/corruption doesn't imply necessary,zero control.

Regardless the game is cool,can’t wait we save Patti
 
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Regardless the game is cool,can’t wait we save Patti
I agree, but there is always a chance that after putting Chris in jail, Matt and Anna will take his place and start managing his 'empire' (shady business) - it is like in that old tale when a knight kills a dragon then sees all the treasures/gold and turns into a dragon himself, untill the next knight kill him and the story repeats, which would explain why the game name is "Mad Turn".

And in this sad case - Patti would become Matt's sex toy. :cry:

I wonder how Patti would feel about this change? :unsure:
 
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I agree, but there is always a chance that after putting Chris in jail, Matt and Anna will take his place and start managing his 'empire' (shady business) - it is like in that old tale when a knight kills a dragon then sees all the treasures/gold and turns into a dragon himself, untill the next knight kill him and the story repeats, which would explain why the game name is "Mad Turn".

And in this sad case - Patti would become Matt's sex toy. :cry:

I wonder how Patti would feel about this change? :unsure:
Well I think the game is called Mad Turn because Matt's life goes from average common married life to taking a mad turn in the opposite direction and his life becomes chaotic and depressing and then his life is given a new purpose. Obviously we can only speculate on the reason for the title but when I hear it thats what I think of. I would like to see this game have a good and a bad ending so you can kind of see what happens in either case.
 

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Well I think the game is called Mad Turn because Matt's life goes from average common married life to taking a mad turn in the opposite direction and his life becomes chaotic and depressing and then his life is given a new purpose. Obviously we can only speculate on the reason for the title but when I hear it thats what I think of. I would like to see this game have a good and a bad ending so you can kind of see what happens in either case.
I agree with good and bad endings (it is a very likely scenario).

And yet I think there is more to why this game is called "Mad Turn", because a lot of people get divorced and then re-purposed their lives (after a while). In other words, divorce is a pretty common thing now (at least in the western world).

I guess, we have to wait and see what is going to happen.
 
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Hi all i haven't played this game in a long time. I wanted to ask if there was much Patti+Chris/Randy content added since i last played years ago? Thanks
 

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Hi all i haven't played this game in a long time. I wanted to ask if there was much Patti+Chris/Randy content added since i last played years ago? Thanks
There are several Patti and Chris scenes in the game, as well as one Patti and Randy scene. They were all in the first season.
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gofile should be the standard for any large zip file to download. The rest either have transfer quotas or are slow as hell. Could you add a link for pc?
 

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Man, i think that the plot writing in Season 2 is losing me a little...

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Serena: Matt, remember that i'm still a whore. So being in relationship with you while fucking other people would be too much of a burden on both of us.
Matt: :sadface:
Serena: Good-bye, Matt.

*five minutes later*

Matt: No, Serena, wait! I have a great idea!

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Matt: We should be in relationship and at the same time fuck other people!
Serena: You know Matt, i wanted to suggest the same thing but just didn't dare.
Both: Yaaaay! Let's fuck to celebrate!


Like... i'm sorry, but how is this supposed "great solution" for their staying apart any different from what those two had just five minutes earlier, before decided to stop, because supposedly it would be too much of mental strain to handle? (and if it was such mental strain just five minutes back, how comes it's suddenly no issue at all?) What was the relationship those two were at that point, if not "open relationship" at best, or even just casual hookups? Considering Serena being a high paid whore who would continue working, something both of them were aware of?

Am i supposed to think that after they had sex for the first time, this meant Serena and Matt were now in exclusive relationship (that they now ended and replaced with open relationship) without even bringing up and discussing that fact? Because if that's the case...

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... both of them really suck at this supposed exclusivity part of their precious relationship, each fucking other people in literally less than two days after their precious exclusive relationship was formed, and without a single thought paid to their supposed oh-so-dear significant other. And those fucks weren't even with paid clients. :whistle:

tl;dr: the whole cafe scene is but a confusing nothingburger that seems to change nothing, establishing open relationship in place of open relationship. And as such feeling very much pointless, or worse, making characters involved look like pair of retards..?
To each their own, but seriously??

Let's look at their situation.

1) Serena caught Mat's eye while he was down in the dump
2) Mat approached her, and they got along well.
3) Mat started making moves on her and she told him "Hey Mat, I like you but I'm a high class prostitute"
4) Mat said: Fuck that I don't care.
5) Serena said, let's see what happens. And Mat proceeds to court her and they get more and more physical.
6) Anna finds out and immediately tries to put a stop to it, since she will be distraction.
7) After finding out Mat does not listen, she pays a visit to Serena and ask her to stop.

That is where we are before this cafe scenario.
So facts:
1) There is chemistry between them. She likes him and he likes her.
2) She is a prostitute. She will fuck a lot of other men.
3) Mat still has a job to do.

So now the Cafe happens:
1) Serena tells Matt. (after being scolded by Anna) We have to break up, it is my job to fuck other people.
2) Mat is in love (or at least want to see where it goes) with Serena and does not care, and now is panicking.
3) Mat proposes am open relationship.
4) Serena accepts since she is also falling for Mat and does not want to lose him. She just wanted to be straight with him.
5) Mat proceeded to fuck Claire as part of Anna's plan to get close to Shiela.

So this still makes complete sense to me.
No they are not locked in a relationship yet, but they are now pretty much dating.

It does not mean that it will work out. Mat and Shiela is becoming a possibility but is waaaaayyy in it's infancy. She is still in another relationship, but the spark is there for sure.
 
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