[Makura cover soft] Dungeon and Bride (alpha, upcoming, DEMO RELEASED)

shikigamiex

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I do think he will really release this month or if not early next month.
He made that quick update last month and only delayed the game by one month which means he's pretty confident that he can release it this month.

Normally when he delays a game he set the estimate month of release a few months away or just which season he will release it. I believe this is the first time where he only explicitly delays a game by a month.

Also golden week in japan is april 29 to may 5. I believe he's going to target a release date before that so a lot of people can play his game.

Expect a lot of bugs on release though.
 

ChupacabraGonzales

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whats silksong? similar to in some way to makura games?
It's a female protagonist game, similar genre to Mission Mermaiden, Alien Quest:Eve, Holy Knight Ricca.
But I wouldn't get my hopes too high about it. The franchise is notorious for having a lots of bugs that the devs never remove, usually only add more through DLC.
 

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Just curious, is the Leanne series or anything else from Makura still someone’s absolute favorite NTR game? If so, how much of that is due to nostalgia/the cult following they got? If that game was released today and it had to compete with games like scars of summer, would you still put it at number 1?
 

An0nM4n

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Just curious, is the Leanne series or anything else from Makura still someone’s absolute favorite NTR game?
Honestly, Leane 2 is definitely one of my absolute favorite, flaws and all, and only about half of that is my own nostaglia.

It was pretty much one of my first H-games and is incredibly well made despite the bugs.

Still, it's a game that does what it does better than most other games and has pretty much become my standard on the genre tbh.

Plus the story made me care about the characters in the first half of the game.
 

baggotswaggot

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Honestly, Leane 2 is definitely one of my absolute favorite, flaws and all, and only about half of that is my own nostaglia.

It was pretty much one of my first H-games and is incredibly well made despite the bugs.

Still, it's a game that does what it does better than most other games and has pretty much become my standard on the genre tbh.

Plus the story made me care about the characters in the first half of the game.
I share this view as well and it's still my absolute favorite game. Great story and the gameplay is actually enjoyable and not a boring walking CG collector like so many other games. The buildup that happens during the prologue really gets you attached to the heroines as well, which I find a lot of other games struggle to do.

I've even played a few of Makura's older games, and while the ones from the early 2000s can be a bit dated, they're still pretty solid story-wise.

Scars of Summer was a top-tier game, but I'd still take the Leane games over it any day tbh.
 
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freshsquid

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Just curious, is the Leanne series or anything else from Makura still someone’s absolute favorite NTR game? If so, how much of that is due to nostalgia/the cult following they got? If that game was released today and it had to compete with games like scars of summer, would you still put it at number 1?
Leane 2 is prolly my favorite NTR game, or at least top 3. NTRPG 2 and Hentai Labyrinth might beat it out (if you're willing to count Hentai Labyrinth).

Anyways, Leane 2 kicks Scars of Summer out of the water. Scars of Summer does have some good ideas, but they are somewhat dulled down by a fairly repetitive and unremarkable RPGMaker game loop. Scars of Summer also has one glaring issue with respect to actualizing the potential of NTR, which is that you have to manually go and activate all the rivals for them to start acting against you. To me, what makes Leane 2 remarkable is the competition between you, and the forces looking to steal your girls, via a compelling and deep gameplay system. If you pick a tough difficulty setting, it really is a struggle to protect your commanders, and you are unlikely to be able to protect all of them and beat the game. But the chance of actually doing it makes it all the more bittersweet when you make mistakes and end up getting NTR'd. Being able to trivially beat Scars of Summer by not activating the antagonists is a bit lame, as is the relative ease of keeping them away even if you enable them. I do think Scars of Summer has some hotter NTR moments, Leane 2's scenes are not as immersive, don't integrate as well with the game's mechanics, and aren't as mysterious. But what I like most about Leane is that it's very organic. the NTR scenes can happen at any point in an otherwise normal game, meaning rather than being encouraged to just run around and collect scenes, you're incentivized to really invest in protecting your heroines, and the scenes come about naturally as a result of your failings, or if you do want to find the scenes, as a result of some playful, intentional carelessness. The game does of course have a number of flaws, but other games just so rarely actualize the "antagonistic" part of NTR like Leane 2 does.

A final unrelated comparison is that I really like Leane's "a harem of heroines stolen by one or two powerful rivals" as opposed to the usual "one heroine who can be stolen by many rivals." Seeing a bunch of your commanders in the King's harem, with maybe one of them away doin' him in the background, is just such a PEAK NTR design, as is the way you have to appease him and beg to get your girls back.

I think my truly ideal NTR game would be a healthy mix of both games. Scars of Summer "one heroine who acts on her own with many antagonistic forces, as you balance investigating what she is up to with your other objectives" and "Gameplay-driven game in which the NTR scenes can come at any time, owing to your lack of caution, skill, or just bad luck." Nebel Geisterjäger came close to that ideal I feel, but I don't think it quite hit the peaks for a number of reasons, mainly being a bit too grindy and drawn out. The Kegani Labs games also do a pretty great job with this, but their art and technical implementation oftentimes leaves something to be desired.
 
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Just curious, is the Leanne series or anything else from Makura still someone’s absolute favorite NTR game? If so, how much of that is due to nostalgia/the cult following they got? If that game was released today and it had to compete with games like scars of summer, would you still put it at number 1?
yeah it still is. the gameplay aspect makes it really better for me. I only hope we could play as baroque. altough i like protecting my soldiers i would have prefered to be in the side to steal. but it still is my favorite game
 
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LordFrz

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Honestly, Leane 2 is definitely one of my absolute favorite, flaws and all, and only about half of that is my own nostaglia.

It was pretty much one of my first H-games and is incredibly well made despite the bugs.

Still, it's a game that does what it does better than most other games and has pretty much become my standard on the genre tbh.

Plus the story made me care about the characters in the first half of the game.
No game has really hit like Leane 2 did when I returned to the capital after repelling the barbarians at the wall. It caught me completely off guard
 

Lletya

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No game has really hit like Leane 2 did when I returned to the capital after repelling the barbarians at the wall. It caught me completely off guard
It was at that point that I remembered I was playing a porn game. I knew baroque was a dirt bag but I never expected the twist. I read about the harem mechanic but I always thought it would be Ludwig that would reluctantly cuck me lol. Makura made the conflicting emotions of supporting your king and loving your girl so well.

It's been a while since a game has made me hot like Leane 2 did.

I thought the Hippia faction could've been done better though. They just seemed cartoonishly evil for no reason. Then toward the end of act 2 you find out it's cuz demons were taking over their land which forced them to attack us.

Act 3 was a total letdown and felt super rushed. It was a perfect opportunity to ally with Hippia and fight the demons side by side with the people that brutally cucked you. It could have started you out at Akram's castle, and making you fight all the way back to the Holy King's castle. You would have the girls that weren't in King's harem, except those girls would be periodically forced into Hippia's version of a harem. Ares would be forced to accept the Hippia custom and let his girls get cucked once again by the people he hates in order to save his kingdom from the demons... Perfect Act 3 scenario imo
 

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It was at that point that I remembered I was playing a porn game. I knew baroque was a dirt bag but I never expected the twist. I read about the harem mechanic but I always thought it would be Ludwig that would reluctantly cuck me lol. Makura made the conflicting emotions of supporting your king and loving your girl so well.

It's been a while since a game has made me hot like Leane 2 did.

I thought the Hippia faction could've been done better though. They just seemed cartoonishly evil for no reason. Then toward the end of act 2 you find out it's cuz demons were taking over their land which forced them to attack us.

Act 3 was a total letdown and felt super rushed. It was a perfect opportunity to ally with Hippia and fight the demons side by side with the people that brutally cucked you. It could have started you out at Akram's castle, and making you fight all the way back to the Holy King's castle. You would have the girls that weren't in King's harem, except those girls would be periodically forced into Hippia's version of a harem. Ares would be forced to accept the Hippia custom and let his girls get cucked once again by the people he hates in order to save his kingdom from the demons... Perfect Act 3 scenario imo
I agree completely. The game started out kinda bad for me, in taht the combat was just pissing me off. I was expecting it to only be NTR on combat loss, but I kept playing, thinking, maybe the current king you are going to defeat will turn the game around.

Then BAM, that twist carried me through the rest of the game. But that act 3 is such a hard fall off. It turns just into a game where I have to play badly so the king can keep stealing the girls. The rest doesn't hit like that first twist.
 

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I agree completely. The game started out kinda bad for me, in taht the combat was just pissing me off. I was expecting it to only be NTR on combat loss, but I kept playing, thinking, maybe the current king you are going to defeat will turn the game around.

Then BAM, that twist carried me through the rest of the game. But that act 3 is such a hard fall off. It turns just into a game where I have to play badly so the king can keep stealing the girls. The rest doesn't hit like that first twist.
Because non-NPC concubine (and harem extension) mechanics were added later. The initial number of heroines in the harem should be ALL based on female commanders.
I guess someone whined and the dev added hare/paid concubines later, spoiling the NTR.
And yes, knowing northern and southern passages, a player could easily outmaneuver royal guard and save all the girls.
 
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Just curious, is the Leanne series or anything else from Makura still someone’s absolute favorite NTR game? If so, how much of that is due to nostalgia/the cult following they got? If that game was released today and it had to compete with games like scars of summer, would you still put it at number 1?
mate, i'd pay for Leanne 2 to come out again today, i'd rather play that than most of the more modern games that come out. the thing is, Leanne 2 had gameplay. and the NTR, was a consequence of your fuck ups during gameplay, it forced you to make decisions, forced you to move general properly to avoid them being captured, either by the king or the enemies.

my only grifts with Leanne 1 and 2 are:
-not difficult enough/too easy to cheese
-fucking kirikiri engine
-beside kassim, the others enemy generals look like cartoon vilain, especially the emperor with his face that is 45% mustache.

the rest still rocks more than most games on this website.
the characters were great and easy to like, which is capital in a NTR game.
odly enough i'll praise the plot(until the demon bullshit), even though it is unnecessary long and drawn out,the guy took a minute figuring out why all of this was happening, and why the NTR is justified and you can't act against it, only prevent it(unless you fuck up).

so to answer your question, to me, Nostalgia is not even part of the equation, it's just a good game, with good mechanics, good story and good seks.
 
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An0nM4n

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WELP, speaking of Leane 2, apparently it's somehow completely vanished off my computer. No idea how but it had to have been recent since I was just playing the damn thing. I don't know why it deleted itself but it has.

All my saves are gone now and I'll have to redownload my mods :cry:
 

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Because non-NPC concubine (and harem extension) mechanics were added later. The initial number of heroines in the harem should be ALL based on female commanders.
I guess someone whined and the dev added hare/paid concubines later, spoiling the NTR.
And yes, knowing northern and southern passages, a player could easily outmaneuver royal guard and save all the girls.
Did not know that, interesting. Only thing I knew he changed after release was adding the ability to avoid the first girl being added to the harem
I know people have modded the game, is there a mod that removes the passive concubines?
 

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First time I've heard about mods for Leanne.

One of my top 3 games for sure, is there any thread or site I need to visit to check them out?

Would be super keen for a modded playthrough
 

The NTRtainer

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Just want to join the many folks here praising Leane 2. Easily my favourite hentai game of all time, and definitely the best NTR game I've ever played.

Personal whims of mine are that I wish Ares had a bit more "dick power" or the ability to sort of build a Harem of his own, and there was a user active in the Leane 2 thread who made a mod that basically made that a possibility, though I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. A lot of names in recent posts are very familiar to me and they're people active in that thread helping others and still to this day keeping the conversation alive in there.

Leane 2 is my absolute favourite lewd game and makura is my favourite dev by far. I lament only that his games are so and far in between because they have amazing premises that I can't find anywhere else.
 

megamanx06

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First time I've heard about mods for Leanne.

One of my top 3 games for sure, is there any thread or site I need to visit to check them out?

Would be super keen for a modded playthrough
They're scattered throughout the thread here. Unfortunately they're not very organized. You could probably find them by searching that thread for "mod" or something