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madchef

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FreeCities Pregmod is pretty well developed overall, and I think it deserves credit for being a fairly coherent vision despite not being made to most people's tastes. Probably because at the hardest difficulties it devolves into a fairly soulless corporation manager which I guess makes complete sense(except the stock market addition being completely broken nullified that).
Yes, I agree. It is coherent, especially the clear and predictable psychosexual modelling, which allows the player to condition slaves in a direction of a particular kink and there's very little randomness in that. The only problem for me is, as you said, it devolves into a soulless economic simulation after a while, with no end goal. Plus the text based engine becomes a chore to read... which is a problem with all text-based games - not the most visually attractive and engaging when played. You can look at a picture of a naked ass all day and never get bored, but you will get bored reading 'naked ass' every second paragraph. On a side note, it is interesting that lewd games have only adopted (or perhaps 'pornified') a limited number of gaming 'engines', mainly RPG with its 'improve your slut with (bad) experience and outfits/gadgets' logic or more or less branching VN. I wonder why that is.
 

Gunner Rey

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Tavern quests list is incompleat.... Try going to the taveren near your house after 6pm.... if you pay for survicess of the slave a few times and talk with her each time she opens up new qust with you... i got 3 or 4 from her but its random chance if you get qust info or not... and one of them takes you visiting her 3 or 4 times in it self.
I don't think it's random, it's dependent upon your hygiene. That is if you're talking about that cute little slut at Furry's. She'll spend time with you and advance the quest info if you're clean when you fuck her, but moves on quickly if you're dirty or filthy.
 

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I assume that in the beginning the endgoal was selling the slaves, but as the community is constantly clamoring that they want to keep them all - that might change. Nut in my opinion it was never meant as a primary slave management game, but an RPG , where it was one of the big mechanic. I was very surprised in the beginning how clingy people are in a game like this.
Maybe because without "emotional investment" there is a lot of other, non-porn games, with a much better budget, that would scratch that itch? I mean, hell, if you take away the sex parts that's pretty much how you can play a game like, say, Crusader Kings 2.

Besides, the more possibilities a game provides to drive a character into specific direction, the more "mine" they become.
The only problem for me is, as you said, it devolves into a soulless economic simulation after a while, with no end goal.
For me, as soon as I start hitting 30+ slaves, I know I'm about to put the game away. Even with all the new custom rulesets you can set up with the mod-that-shall-not-be-named.

Even if you play on highest world deterioration/economy settings, the game is not difficult. It's mostly deterministic, which basically just means you're competing with yourself how fast you can accomplish certain goals.
Plus the text based engine becomes a chore to read... which is a problem with all text-based games - not the most visually attractive and engaging when played. You can look at a picture of a naked ass all day and never get bored, but you will get bored reading 'naked ass' every second paragraph.
The mod-that-shall-not-be-named somewhat recently got a Daz3D models included. It's still pretty basic, but does complement the rest quite well.
On a side note, it is interesting that lewd games have only adopted (or perhaps 'pornified') a limited number of gaming 'engines', mainly RPG with its 'improve your slut with (bad) experience and outfits/gadgets' logic or more or less branching VN. I wonder why that is.
I'd definitely chalk it up for desire for some "emotional investment." You either play for "I make them into 'personalities' I want, and they are mine" or the story - which by itself requires some emotional hooks.

We are sad, lonely, and pathetic creatures. Now give us more of the kind of games we like >.>
 

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Maybe because without "emotional investment" there is a lot of other, non-porn games, with a much better budget, that would scratch that itch? I mean, hell, if you take away the sex parts that's pretty much how you can play a game like, say, Crusader Kings 2.
WHAT? Somebody plays CK2 without the sex parts?

And here I thought the whole point of CK2 and especially CK3 was to gather every available sex mod to scratch every possible rare-fetish-itch you didn't even knoweth you had... :p
 

Konstantinus

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Good points. While I like the game so far it seems like there's an increasing amount of ideas and game mechanics being added that don't directly relate to the core gameplay attraction. What's the end goal of training slaves in MoR?
The original vision whas that you have two slave spaces. One for keeping and one for training and selling because in Skyrim from all the possible followers you can only have one active and one spouse either too.
And as it is said before, many people did not played this game like a slave trainer but like Harem Collector or Renryuu Ascension so he has to slowly change the system for keeping all of them. The end goal is having generic slaves for selling while the unique slaves will be kept for creating Fire Emblem like stories.
 
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SpikyHair

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WHAT? Somebody plays CK2 without the sex parts?
Thank you for bringing this pertinent tidbit of trivia to my attention.

I am not surprised, but did not even realize this existed.
And here I thought the whole point of CK2 and especially CK3 was to gather every available sex mod to scratch every possible rare-fetish-itch you didn't even knoweth you had... :p
Huh, not to ensure every kingdom and empire is ruled by a horribly inbred family of green-eyed gingers?
The end goal is having generic slaves for selling while the unique slaves will be kept for creating Fire Emblem like stories.
That's a solid compromise. Me gusta.
 

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Does TotaLube do anything or cost anything?
It's supposedly a contraception, that will have it's use when the slaves can get pregnant. No costs that I have noticed so far.
Perhaps their common use is an ancient relic from those long passed good old times and their costs included in taxes. :rolleyes:

Edit: "Launched in 2099 after a questionable trial, TotaLube, dubbed "The sex facilitator", offers birth control, complete elimination of menstruation, and an odorless and lubricated anus in one pill that's taken just twice a week. " ( explained in house rules )
 
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Gunner Rey

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I feed them too when i pass by the church, been wondering if it's just a ration sink or feeding them will net you something when they could be adopted. Maybe will improve how much they like you or something. :unsure::coffee:
Heh, I was just kidding Purski, I wasn't overtly moralizing incidentally. The first few times after reading a couple descriptions and deciding these were all targets I needed to take off the board I blew away the Pei family too. A few tries later I was down in the park finishing them up when I noticed the avatar for Ms Pei looked female. I thought to myself 'waitaminnit, why am I blowing away babes again?' I hadn't really read her note or anything about the case so I went back and re-did it and paid attention this time and also saw the 'have mercy' option and thus heard his side of the story. After getting the five gold bars I figured I'd found a better solution and didn't revisit it.

However I just noticed that his bounty was $1200 and the gold bars are only worth $950 so even without the veritable gold mine the bug Purski discovered amounts to you're still losing $250 by picking the 'show mercy' option and then being magnanimous about it. Now if that $250 were the difference between, say, getting you all combat armor by the end of the first day I might not be as interested in his side of the story myself. I can't verify it and the town pays good money and in a grimdark setting being a 'heartless fiend' is kind of the norm, is it not?

I cracked up when I saw the 'rob children' option. I'm like....'Really? Who does that? C'mon!' It does help set the scene though, a grim dystopia where none of the 'rules' apply.
 

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Heh, I was just kidding Purski, I wasn't overtly moralizing incidentally. The first few times after reading a couple descriptions and deciding these were all targets I needed to take off the board I blew away the Pei family too. A few tries later I was down in the park finishing them up when I noticed the avatar for Ms Pei looked female. I thought to myself 'waitaminnit, why am I blowing away babes again?' I hadn't really read her note or anything about the case so I went back and re-did it and paid attention this time and also saw the 'have mercy' option and thus heard his side of the story. After getting the five gold bars I figured I'd found a better solution and didn't revisit it.

However I just noticed that his bounty was $1200 and the gold bars are only worth $950 so even without the veritable gold mine the bug Purski discovered amounts to you're still losing $250 by picking the 'show mercy' option and then being magnanimous about it. Now if that $250 were the difference between, say, getting you all combat armor by the end of the first day I might not be as interested in his side of the story myself. I can't verify it and the town pays good money and in a grimdark setting being a 'heartless fiend' is kind of the norm, is it not?

I cracked up when I saw the 'rob children' option. I'm like....'Really? Who does that? C'mon!' It does help set the scene though, a grim dystopia where none of the 'rules' apply.
You always have to wonder what is going to happen down the road. Does showing mercy lead to an encounter with them later that perhaps benefits you more than a mere $250? I don't know but like Geller, who if you leave on good terms mentions owing you a favor later, it might offer advantages that may benefit you in other ways.

Though playing as a 'heartless fiend' is a valid option, too!
 

Gunner Rey

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You always have to wonder what is going to happen down the road. Does showing mercy lead to an encounter with them later that perhaps benefits you more than a mere $250? I don't know but like Geller, who if you leave on good terms mentions owing you a favor later, it might offer advantages that may benefit you in other ways.

Though playing as a 'heartless fiend' is a valid option, too!
I wondered about that with 'Headkillers Crew' and thus the first few times I took the easy option there and let them live. However after having played those games a fair bit longer, nothing seemed to happen with them and I didn't see any way to bring it up with Roo. Perhaps it's a work in progress, but I didn't see any indication of that either. So now they get blown away, I don't leave the money on the table, I guess it makes up for what I lose letting the Pei familiy go.

I was mostly interested in seeing if that sister was hot anyways, in which case I'd want her for a slave regardless. So I'm not pretending my motives are in any way entirely pure! With Geller I take his money, I can see why he did what he did, but I'm not going to pretend I'm not doing (or going to do) with Michelle, Lovisa and Rebecca pretty much exactly what that other professor did to Geller's daughter. I can't be that hypocritical, my mind doesn't work that way!
 
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Just a note, does anyone else love the music in the game? I find it incredible for a free-to-play game. Many of them have none at all and I just can't get into a game without music, others have the same old music, I guess it's in the public domain or something because so many games use the same tunes. The music in this game I don't recall hearing before and just fits the game perfectly, I don't ever get tired of it.
 

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I was mostly interested in seeing if that sister was hot anyways, in which case I'd want her for a slave regardless. So I'm not pretending my motives are in any way entirely pure! With Geller I take his money, I can see why he did what he did, but I'm not going to pretend I'm not doing (or going to do) with Michelle, Lovisa and Rebecca pretty much exactly what that other professor did to Geller's daughter. I can't be that hypocritical, my mind doesn't work that way!
I've not gone the extort route, so how much can you extort from him and is it a one time payment?
 

Gunner Rey

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I've not gone the extort route, so how much can you extort from him and is it a one time payment?
He gives you 10 per day until he disappears, mean time in maybe five trials for me was about 100 days I'd guess.

Edit to add: Come to think about it, it might be more, like 15-20. I don't still have a game saved where it's active but I got to thinking about it and 10 seemed low.
 
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Hardor

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Huh, not to ensure every kingdom and empire is ruled by a horribly inbred family of green-eyed gingers?
What the hell are you going to do with incest-kindom of dozens of redheaded sluts that keep breeding you more incestuous grandchildren if you can't found your own sexual-worship religion that forces them to work as prostitutes to increase your kingdom's wealth?

It was actually pretty hilarious when you run first time to the vanilla incest events in CK3 and when you notice that you are about to enter half-dozen wars simply because the rulers from those realms found out about few of the dozens of affairs and bastards that you have been having with their wives, daughters and lovers...
 

Gunner Rey

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What the hell are you going to do with incest-kindom of dozens of redheaded sluts that keep breeding you more incestuous grandchildren if you can't found your own sexual-worship religion that forces them to work as prostitutes to increase your kingdom's wealth?

It was actually pretty hilarious when you run first time to the vanilla incest events in CK3 and when you notice that you are about to enter half-dozen wars simply because the rulers from those realms found out about few of the dozens of affairs and bastards that you have been having with their wives, daughters and lovers...
Heh, I couldn't help but think when I was first playing CK3 that the incest crowd over here must enjoy certain aspects of that game. I'm not much into incest, unless it's screwing sisters or something, and in that game the inbred girls are ugly so I actively avoided it....but the cousins of the MC sure didn't!

In contrast to others, I thought the point of that game was to strip the world nekkid and breed 'em like fruit flies! Go for Beautiful, Amazonian Geniuses under a religion promoting Natural Primitivism, Carnal Exaltation....and what's the other one? Something depraved as well I'm sure.
 
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It was actually pretty hilarious when you run first time to the vanilla incest events in CK3 and when you notice that you are about to enter half-dozen wars simply because the rulers from those realms found out about few of the dozens of affairs and bastards that you have been having with their wives, daughters and lovers...
Actually, it wasn't so much wedding daughters as step-whatnots. First degree cousins and the like.

Simply because the combination of events and chaos that followed the inbred incompetents was just glorious to behold. It also took crapton of effort to maintain stable enough realm to actually support all your inbred family's kingdoms. With every character stat being the dump stat XD

Goodtimes. The only things saving everyone involved was family relationship bonus and alliances.
I'm not much into incest
Neither. I just at one point ended up with a red-headed and green-eyed randomly generated starting minor ruler in Ireland, and the best match I could find for him was another green-eyed redhead, and a brilliant idea was born...

I wish I didn't lose that save, the state of Europe as a whole after 380 years was a sight to behold. Even had a foothold in the Levant. :)
 
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