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JaxMan

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Alright, I started a new account for testing and used saveedit to raise Lovisa's discipline to 99. Here is the result. As you can see, her tough trait went up to 16/100. If I play this account enough times, I can probably get her to 50/100 and beyond. My old Lovisa got to 75/100. New Lovisa can live up to that.

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And that was 0.8.2.3c, huh. Well, I stand corrected as that must of been a change within the last year., I'm not following the game as closely as I once did so that was a change I definitely missed . Thanks for setting me straight.
 
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GD-studios

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Do we get Adora from the random slave generator or a random slave who uses her images? It's confusing. Can we access her quest if we buy her from the slave markets.

If you pick Adora from the Expert slaver (Slave owner trait) she gets a bunch of custom dialogues, a tweaked background, some scripted traits and a very small quest revolving around your missing brother. That quest is open to all tiers.

If you buy Adora from the auctions, she keeps her name, most of her original background, her scenes and her personality. There is no quest, however, and no mention of your past together. She is like any other randie.
 
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hamash

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Jan 20, 2021
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What happened to the town hall dudes who would "test" your slaves value btw? Haven't seen them around in a while
 

kiljaeden

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If you pick Adora from the Expert slaver (Slave owner trait) she gets a bunch of custom dialogues, a tweaked background, some scripted traits and a very small quest revolving around your missing brother. That quest is open to all tiers.

If you buy Adora from the auctions, she keeps her name, most of her original background, her scenes and her personality. There is no quest, however, and no mention of your past together. She is like any other randie.
That trait is kinda weak imo. Other expert traits are much better.
 

trulul

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That trait is kinda weak imo. Other expert traits are much better.
Most, if not all, of those traits are essentially just money, which may make a difference for speedrun optimisation or something. This may change if new content is timed.

Maybe hunter can get unique stuff from the secret spot. Maybe the slave quest has something special. Maybe it will even be relevant (=best in slot / extra buffs). We will see.
 

GD-studios

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That trait is kinda weak imo. Other expert traits are much better.
The Expert traits give you a lot of skill points that can be grinded up regardless of what choice you make. Their special boon is the unique trait that color your playthrough and adds replayability.

You can be a captain (expert soldier) in one game and buddy up with Lt. Corso (new combat class NPC), a crafter with great connections in another (expert businessman) or really enjoy Adora Sanor in a third.

The features themselves are not locked to a specific class, Corso and Adora are hirable in all playthroughs, it's just that their RP tag is missing (unique dialogues and minor scripted events).

Scenes and personalities are the same in all games:

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Clemency

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What was that red colored implant I keep seeing on the upper right btw? Is that new or I just did not explore the game enough?
 

Gunner Rey

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That trait is kinda weak imo. Other expert traits are much better.
What it does give you is something that's difficult to get any other way and tough (and potentially expensive!) to grind: Bondage and Flagellation. You get an extra 25 Bondage and 15 Flagellation from taking that third tier, and those stats you can't just raise on the Attributes and Skills tab.

I think he put a lot of thought into it, I've not yet decided on any 'must have' picks, though there are those I'm definitely more inclined to pick. 'Expert' soldier seemed the best to me until I realized only the cheap Ammo Pack merc is not obsolete in about thirty days, which is what it usually takes me to get everyone outfitted in Duraplate and with Coilguns at the very least.
 
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Gunner Rey

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How can you get so much money so fast?
Beat people up and take their stuff!

Edit to add:

Get in a bounty a day, every day, and keep the forts on Marston Avenue and Stokke Hills clear (they are recurring targets). There's also a recurring target in the upper left of Watery Eyes (a lone freebooter with a rifle you can sell) and another in the lower left of Stokke Hills. Take those out ASAP so you keep getting more, also make sure you take at least one alive to sell from every battle if you can. Do the quick easy quests as soon as practicable and don't waste money on anything you don't need until you all have Duraplate. I considered the old house upgrades and Rebecca as things worth spending on, but not much else except Combat Armor as the first step to Duraplate. I've not yet decided which house upgrades I'll prioritize in the newest versions, I can't get much farther than the character creation as I can't decide what I want to play most!
 
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khumak

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House upgrades are definitely more of a long term project in the latest version considering how many of them there are and how expensive some of the upgrades are. Personally I would focus on the yard options first, especially your first workshop and the Gazebo (specifically for pool parties).
 

Gunner Rey

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House upgrades are definitely more of a long term project in the latest version considering how many of them there are and how expensive some of the upgrades are. Personally I would focus on the yard options first, especially your first workshop and the Gazebo (specifically for pool parties).
I lucked into buying those first and I agree, the workshop especially is such a boon I probably should fit it in before Duraplate, but maybe not Combat Armor as that's a money-maker in itself allowing you to take out higher level targets and making all cheaper as you won't have to spend nearly as much on tendstims.

What do you think about the new character creation system? I can't get past the first day as I always want to try another combination out. I figured out I can hold my nose (required as I have to take Body Odor!) and take enough negative attributes I can be an expert in a field on the 120 point Grimdark setting while taking only one that truly limits future development, but I've enjoyed playing around with the 280 point setting so much I think I'm going to play that way. I just can't decide which configuration I like best. I really want to try Hunter as I think I can game it with Loren that I'll have no difficulty with money and I'll have a decent combat build just from Hunting Expert, but I can't decide how to spend the rest....or decide I just must have little miss Adora Sanor from the get-go with all the goodies (her quest). I found a Combat Veteran to make the opening much easier, but then again I can manage without it and I have to fit the new guy into my merc teams and haven't figured out who I want to drop from my eventual 'A-Team.'

Doctor looks good too, especially if combined with Soldier. Slaver is another tough one to not want to get to the second level at least. I think Grim outdid himself on this new system, I can't stop playing with it. I may never strip, whip, and sodomize senseless another slavegirl as I'm still playing with the character creation system!
 
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