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Ah well that answers that question. I also had a slave in my party but assumed it was the mercs.
Yeah, it happened to me when I had a slave that was both unarmed and unarmored which was confusing. As I understand it from Grim's explanation, it's due to an old system for acquiring slaves that would prevent you from doing it if you had followers. Slaves in your party are tagged as followers, while mercs aren't, i guess? Grim said he'd rework it someday.
 
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Is it possible to have slaves that are in the annex to have jobs?

That would make life so... so much easier.
 

Hargan2

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Is it possible to have slaves that are in the annex to have jobs?

That would make life so... so much easier.
Yes, just set their job before transferring them into the annex. If a slave has a job or is attending classes or any other daily activity, they will continue to do so once moved to the annex. I think there is a penalty applied to income earned by slaves in the annex, but I also think Grim was considering removing or lessening it so i'm not 100% sure what the deal is with that.
 

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I'm actually really tempted to sign up for the subscribestar for this. I don't even have a SS account and only ever signed up for 1 other game's Patreon as it is.


I've spent an assload of hours the past couple of days on this. It has a shitload of potential.
 
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PyoT

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Some laudable things about this one - good interface for a HTML game for one - but before getting into anything else: for the love of all that's holy; just give me an instant "LOAD" button and don't waste my time on some irrelevant intro sequence that's not even instant ^^;
 

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Having a few actions be impossible can be fine (as long as it's not too many), it just has to be clearly communicated. Losing the Failed Charm roll line (maybe replacing it with something like The woman seems immune to your Charm) would solve the issue for me.
I agree. I'm going to copy this to the discord #suggestions channel so it wont get buried.

Keep the feedback coming. Stuff like this helps polish the game.
 
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Some laudable things about this one - good interface for a HTML game for one - but before getting into anything else: for the love of all that's holy; just give me an instant "LOAD" button and don't waste my time on some irrelevant intro sequence that's not even instant ^^;
come on man, LOL. there the age/legal disclaimer, then a 5 sec intro screen before you get to the load game button. the man wants his game to have some style and class. let him have it!

actually, the intro screen and music are what struck me when i first played. dont really see that kind of thing with html/twine games.
 

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COPIED FROM THE DISCORD. PENDING CHANGES PER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK:

GrimDark4/10/2022, 7:20:29 AMEdited 4/10/2022, 7:22:55 AM
Version: 0.7.9.1.
ETA (public): 20-24 April.
ETA (Alpha): Any day.

NOTE! Patch notes are added daily. This is not a complete list.
.. .. ..


GrimDark4/10/2022, 7:21:11 AMEdited 4/10/2022, 7:44:57 AM
Gameplay changes
• Raised the skill chance increase for Academy programs by 70-100%. All slaves will now progress a bit faster while studying at the Academy, if their skills is below 80.
• Added Influence levels that'll have a significant impact on various situations in Ikaanos. (Wiki page with descriptions is WIP. Will launch shortly).
• You're now able to apply a slave below age 20 as a teacher at the Academy IF your Influence is 6000 or higher.
• There's now a Save Game menu inside "Other Options" at your house when you're playing the Grimdark difficulty. This enables you to "save to disk" if that need should arise.
• It's not a little easier to train slaves when you "Include" them in your sessions, if their Discipline is 30 or higher.
• The Sandbox Difficulty will now add an extra success bonus chance when you Include slaves in your training session
s.

Bugfixes
• Fixed a bug that would let slaves trapped in bondage perform morning blowjobs if they were set at secondary slaves.
• Fixed a bug that would give a non-existing secondary slave a Stamina boost after viewing beautiful sightings at Preacher's Pond.
• Fixed a bug that wouldn't display the Golden Dragon entry sign if you are playing on Linux.
• Many smaller text changes/corrected typos.


GrimDark4/10/2022, 7:38:12 AMEdited 4/10/2022, 7:38:34 AM
Updated: April 10th
 
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ShinCore

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I'm actually really tempted to sign up for the subscribestar for this. I don't even have a SS account and only ever signed up for 1 other game's Patreon as it is.


I've spent an assload of hours the past couple of days on this. It has a shitload of potential.
Same here. Up until this point, I'd never subbed to a patreon or anything like that. There's some great games out there, but I never felt like it was worth it.

But this game is so different. And Grim's work ethic and dedication to developing the game really made an impression. It got to the point that I found myself volunteering to help out, discussing how to better the game with others on discord, and when he opened the SSA page...

See the top tier offered on his SSA page? SlaveMaster? There's one sub at that tier. That sub is me.
 
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PyoT

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come on man, LOL. there the age/legal disclaimer, then a 5 sec intro screen before you get to the load game button. the man wants his game to have some style and class. let him have it!
Style is fine, but it shouldn't go over convenience. And it's just a 100% unnecessary wait, there's absolutely no reason for that game to have a load time. And to have a start menu and then a disclaimer and then a game menu.

Anyway, not saying it's the end of the world, just saying it's an unnecessary nuisance.
 

ShinCore

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Style is fine, but it shouldn't go over convenience. And it's just a 100% unnecessary wait, there's absolutely no reason for that game to have a load time. And to have a start menu and then a disclaimer and then a game menu.

Anyway, not saying it's the end of the world, just saying it's an unnecessary nuisance.

I get it. I like the intro screen myself personally, but I understand where you are coming from.

Interesting tibit, it used to be disclaimer, intro screen, game menu. from the game menu you could start a new game or load a game. HOWEVER. the discord kept getting folks that were complaining about bugs that had been fixed a long time ago. or about weird issues that we had never heard of. after some diggin, it turns out that there are a ton of aggregation porn game sites that rip games from here (and itch.io), and host them on their own sites, probably to generate affiliate and XXX ad revenue. those people were pissed about one thing or another, and leaving bad reviews on those sites. nothing to do with the actual game, more problems with associated with the site itself. OR, the version of the game was super old.

try googling "Masters of Raana". you will see what I mean.

In an effort to address that situation, Grim moved the start menu to the front as a quick fix measure, with a button for the discord, and wiki and subscribestar page so that folks could go get the latest version themselves, support the game, lookup info on the game, or goto the discord for help. since thats now the first thing that pops up, the previous complaints havent been popping up anymore.

With the old setup, the only time you would have seen the game menu is if you were starting a new game. Loading a game would take you straight to the game itself. Those players would have no idea that there was a new update out, a new wiki avail or help at the discord.

That's why that change was made. To make sure players could get the info/help they needed.

But ill bring up to Grim the idea of replacing the Start Game button with a New Game/Load Game button. That way you will only get the intro screen when you start a new game.

It's a good point, about not needing to see the intro every single time.

Grim is planning on redoing the the intro format, the current version was just a quick fix.
 
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ShinCore

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Style is fine, but it shouldn't go over convenience. And it's just a 100% unnecessary wait, there's absolutely no reason for that game to have a load time. And to have a start menu and then a disclaimer and then a game menu.

Anyway, not saying it's the end of the world, just saying it's an unnecessary nuisance.
talked to Grim on discord. your point made sense. he made the adjustment already


GrimDark — Today at 7:19 AM
THIS CHANNEL LISTS LIVE UPDATES FOR CURRENT BUILD!
Version: 0.7.9.1.
ETA (public): 20-24 April.
ETA (Alpha): Any day.

NOTE! Patch notes are added daily. This is not a complete list.
.. .. ..
Gameplay changes
• There's now a Quick Load button on the Lobby page so players can jump right back in without going through the presentation screen.
• Raised the skill chance increase for Academy programs by 70-100%. All slaves will now progress a bit faster while studying at the Academy, if their skills is below 80.
• Added Influence levels that'll have a significant impact on various situations in Ikaanos. (Wiki page with descriptions is WIP. Will launch shortly).
• You're now able to apply a slave below age 20 as a teacher at the Academy IF your Influence is 6000 or higher.
• There's now a Save Game menu inside "Other Options" at your house when you're playing the Grimdark difficulty. This enables you to "save to disk" if that need should arise.
• It's not a little easier to train slaves when you "Include" them in your sessions, if their Discipline is 30 or higher.
• The Sandbox Difficulty will now add an extra success bonus chance when you Include slaves in your training sessions.

Bugfixes
• Fixed a bug that wouldn't display enemy review correctly at the Arena.
• Fixed a bug that would let slaves trapped in bondage perform morning blowjobs if they were set at secondary slaves.
• Fixed a bug that would give a non-existing secondary slave a Stamina boost after viewing beautiful sightings at Preacher's Pond.
• Fixed a bug that wouldn't display the Golden Dragon entry sign if you are playing on Linux.
• Many smaller text changes/corrected typos.

heres a quck mockup he made while i was chatting with him in discord (#suggestions, go check it out)

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change will go live with next update ETA April 20th-24th.

And thats why i support him and this game. shit like that. ever seen an indie solo dev respond that quick? i havent.
 

PyoT

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ever seen an indie solo dev respond that quick? i havent.
Yes, there's a few of them on here even.

... look, I know that sounds kinda ungrateful or something, and I'm kinda debating whether I should even say anything. But I feel I got to defend the other devs ;)

It's appreciated. Listening to feedback and reacting to it is positive. But let's not overblow this tiny change, okay? ;) The reason I suggested it in the first place was that it takes about 30 seconds to do in Twine (c&p load link to the correct passage, done).

And I've posted similar things to other games on here and generally the reaction was the same and not all the suggestion were as simple as this one. Devs typically do try. But even beyond that, I know a few Steam early access games where you can bother their solo dev at any point with something - well, aside from when they are sleeping. With some of them I'm frankly worrying they are doing it too much for their own good ^^;

Anyway, that is all; now to actually play a bit more of the game to have something to say about that part :p
 

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Yes, there's a few of them on here even.

... look, I know that sounds kinda ungrateful or something, and I'm kinda debating whether I should even say anything. But I feel I got to defend the other devs ;)

It's appreciated. Listening to feedback and reacting to it is positive. But let's not overblow this tiny change, okay? ;) The reason I suggested it in the first place was that it takes about 30 seconds to do in Twine (c&p load link to the correct passage, done).

And I've posted similar things to other games on here and generally the reaction was the same and not all the suggestion were as simple as this one. Devs typically do try. But even beyond that, I know a few Steam early access games where you can bother their solo dev at any point with something - well, aside from when they are sleeping. With some of them I'm frankly worrying they are doing it too much for their own good ^^;

Anyway, that is all; now to actually play a bit more of the game to have something to say about that part :p
its all good man. im biased, i know it. LOL. enjoy the game.
 

GD-studios

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Is it just me or do people age a little fast? Had a slave who was 19, 150 days in my house later she's 21.
The current ageing system is a bit wonky at times. This will be addressed in the slave revamp update (0.8) with the implementation of birthdays and the preparation for The Legacy Update.
 

GD-studios

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Yes, there's a few of them on here even.

... look, I know that sounds kinda ungrateful or something, and I'm kinda debating whether I should even say anything. But I feel I got to defend the other devs ;)

It's appreciated. Listening to feedback and reacting to it is positive. But let's not overblow this tiny change, okay? ;) The reason I suggested it in the first place was that it takes about 30 seconds to do in Twine (c&p load link to the correct passage, done).

And I've posted similar things to other games on here and generally the reaction was the same and not all the suggestion were as simple as this one. Devs typically do try. But even beyond that, I know a few Steam early access games where you can bother their solo dev at any point with something - well, aside from when they are sleeping. With some of them I'm frankly worrying they are doing it too much for their own good ^^;

Anyway, that is all; now to actually play a bit more of the game to have something to say about that part :p
No, seriously, this was nothing. As you say, it took me less than a minute. :)

Quick Load was one of those many things I wanted to implement, subconsciously, but never did, until someone pointed it out. So, thanks! ;)
 
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Ceesko

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GD-studios I don't know if this was intentional on your part or not, but well done if it is:

I have noticed that if you have a slave girl (Michelle especially) at soul mate / love and spoil her a'lot with gifts and dates, she stops doing chores completely in the house and spends her time lollygagging and wasting time. Which is a far cry from when you acquired her and was actively doing her duty. She accepts sexual requests, but now sometimes she demands gifts (trinkets, candy) like if she was your girlfriend and not your slave! I think because in her mind, she creates an alternate reality that she is your girlfriend not your slave (which she is).
 
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