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JGreen90

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the only instance i know that made full use of beauty is tavern prostitute. although to be fair, it add several other attributes and divide those by 4. so even if your npc have high beauty, they're unlikely to make a big difference, given the possible max beauty is 145 for npcs. and most will be capped at around 85-89.
Beauty is for tavern performers, at 95 is an increase to it, 80 is a smaller increase, they also want prestige, it is more annoying to get, prestige. Prostitutes seem to be naff this update, I went for them in my other game, prior to this playthrough, can in this game, my household is at 100 corruption. Ring was making much less than past versions, I haven't played in over a year, but even when they started hitting big fame. Tavern goldwalkers, I didn't fuck around with it much. I know in a much older playthrough the system was broken, and they made more as normal goldwalkers, and you got to see them in Dockgrave, Enya and Loren. Loren is a much better hunter now. It probably changed since then. They should add more income to the tavern. I am not there yet in my game. Nearly. Just buillt my Tavern.
 

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Beauty is for tavern performers, at 95 is an increase to it
that is a negligible bonus.

performer mainly use Performance (duh xD) and charisma. plus some other bonus, including static beauty. 95 gives +50 at best, and that's it.

tavern prostitutes however, use full beauty in the calc.
specifically : (Beauty + Charisma + O.xp + V.xp)/4
don't remember the bonuses, but it was negligible for the most part. need young age and a handful of static fame or somethin.
 

JGreen90

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that is a negligible bonus.

performer mainly use Performance (duh xD) and charisma. plus some other bonus, including static beauty. 95 gives +50 at best, and that's it.

tavern prostitutes however, use full beauty in the calc.
specifically : (Beauty + Charisma + O.xp + V.xp)/4
don't remember the bonuses, but it was negligible for the most part. need young age and a handful of static fame or somethin.
Where does it say prostitute, duh, and duh? Fame is prostitute it is better money from sex skills and less wear and the more corrupted they are. I never seen or read it. I might be wrong. Please link? It never matter before. Fame. Better sex skills. It increases fame quicker. Better sex skills and corruption less wear.
 

JGreen90

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What are the 4 clues for secret garden, academics, juno, intelligence? What was the other? Corruption?
 
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JGreen90

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do you just argue about every little thing? and not even the point i was trying to make?
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What is that? An in-game description Wiki description? Or some duh and duh. What is that exactly?

Fame alters nightly gain. Sex skills are gained and grant better fame.

You're saying no no no look at what? I have no idea what that is. You're arguing fame? It's redundant? Sex skills are redundant all because you picked beauty and charisma?

Nuts. Fame is the larger increase, with it status, escort, sex skills. Beauty and charisma are second to none.
 

JGreen90

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What is the stealth roll for baylock house? Ridiculous. 76 stealth is not enough to beat the roll. Now I'm not bothered beating the stealth roll. That's absurd if it's 90 stealth? I reckon it, it can't be beat, just to get into house, it doesn't matter anyway. Anybody else do these pointless things? I guess I'll go to 90. If I can't beat the roll I won't be able to follow the girl in secret garden quest. Both are pointless but I am curious, what beating the roll does.
 
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JGreen90

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Don't feed the troll, folks.
Yummy yummy I'll link my game right now. It's a serious question. Free game. Only playing a few days. Since Sunday. 3 workshops turning out Cash. All books read, library, course, all stats nearly maxed full wega, first dorm upgrade almost full of people all at 100 corruption. All girls undying. Most are in roles. My house bar a couple bedrooms is fully upgrade with a reactor. There's nothing I cannot beat.

Don't fucking attack somebody else asking something. Here's a free save
 
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Are you sure? According to the wiki, there should be 4 quests to choose from in the tavern.
100% sure.
It doesn't show up in Divine Juices and it is the cybernetic freebooters one I misremembered. They got a book you loot after killing them. Read said book and it automatically adds golden papers to your journal. It takes all of 2 minutes to finish.
This is the answer you're looking for.
 
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JGreen90

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90 stealth makes no difference. Stupid Baylock mansion sneak around the back. The roll fails at max stealth? Dumb. It doesn't as lone wolf. Same result, entry. So naff. Better as lone wolf killing voidseeker albert, 2 hits dead.
 
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I see there's some quests that can only be unlocked through a one-to-one dinner. Can anyone tell me what the parameters are for actually successfully triggering these quests? Do they need to be casual or sophisticated? Do you "invite" NPCs by just adding them as followers?

I've had one-to-one dinners around forty times with NPCs like Bud and Michelle who have quests but I've never triggered a single one. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks
 

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I see there's some quests that can only be unlocked through a one-to-one dinner. Can anyone tell me what the parameters are for actually successfully triggering these quests? Do they need to be casual or sophisticated? Do you "invite" NPCs by just adding them as followers?

I've had one-to-one dinners around forty times with NPCs like Bud and Michelle who have quests but I've never triggered a single one. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks
I believe all the requirements are listed in the wiki, if they even are necessary anymore.

Just add the NPC as a follower and no one else, host a dinner for followers.

It's the "personal interaction" option that triggers it, you can just refresh the page until you get it. They are low-ish % chance to trigger as far as I can recall.
 

JGreen90

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I believe all the requirements are listed in the wiki, if they even are necessary anymore.

Just add the NPC as a follower and no one else, host a dinner for followers.

It's the "personal interaction" option that triggers it, you can just refresh the page until you get it. They are low-ish % chance to trigger as far as I can recall.
The Wiki isn't a very good source of information BTW. It hasn't got a lot of quests. Like the Secret Garden. I don't know what the intelligence criteria is. I have 3 of 4 clues. Juno is on 80 intelligence. The other clues it doesn't tell you this anywhere on Google, are corruption, academics, Juno, and intelligence. Corruption and Academics need to be 60. Intelligence? No WIKI. It doesn't Have the Prowler in the Depths. In fact the Wiki is almost useless, it has an outline. A lot has changed. It doesn't tell me what the arena renders are, which girls x3. I know some of them, but somebody has been adding really silly renders in there because they were bored with nothing better to do. Like Lovisa perhaps, and maybe Juno, and Nicole who you spend millions on, why arena if she's a reporter? Why any of those three, Juno, Nicole, Lovisa in the arena, there is so much missing content but somebody at end game decides they'll fuck up the stats for everybody else, by putting arena content on those three, Juno is Secret Garden, Nicole a reporter, Lovisa a nurse, if it could role the three p's perfection, pure, and her hardcoded pacifist, it doesn't? Some idiot put brawler in.

I just got Rosita. She has a deepthroat skill of 100 a Vag skill of 85, oral 100. Somehow a Vanilla Trait? I am not spending 30 minutes rerolling it. She had perfectionist, starlet, she'll be a performer. It's unbelievable what they'll done to this game now. There's far too much crap in it., unreflective of their obvious roles and positions. Oh but they can be anything. No they cannot, unless you're bored.
 
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JGreen90

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The other super annoying feature is unassigning them from arena and abbey, simple to get daily pool party and shrine. But they do nightly prostitution, and your educators train them while they are in abbey and arena.
 

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The Wiki isn't a very good source of information BTW. It hasn't got a lot of quests. Like the Secret Garden. I don't know what the intelligence criteria is. I have 3 of 4 clues. Juno is on 80 intelligence. The other clues it doesn't tell you this anywhere on Google, are corruption, academics, Juno, and intelligence. Corruption and Academics need to be 60. Intelligence? No WIKI. It doesn't Have the Prowler in the Depths. In fact the Wiki is almost useless, it has an outline. A lot has changed. It doesn't tell me what the arena renders are, which girls x3. I know some of them, but somebody has been adding really silly renders in there because they were bored with nothing better to do. Like Lovisa perhaps, and maybe Juno, and Nicole who you spend millions on, why arena if she's a reporter? Why any of those three, Juno, Nicole, Lovisa in the arena, there is so much missing content but somebody at end game decides they'll fuck up the stats for everybody else, by putting arena content on those three, Juno is Secret Garden, Nicole a reporter, Lovisa a nurse, if it could role the three p's perfection, pure, and her hardcoded pacifist, it doesn't? Some idiot put brawler in.

I just got Rosita. She has a deepthroat skill of 100 a Vag skill of 85, oral 100. Somehow a Vanilla Trait? I am not spending 30 minutes rerolling it. She had perfectionist, starlet, she'll be a performer. It's unbelievable what they'll done to this game now. There's far too much crap in it., unreflective of their obvious roles and positions. Oh but they can be anything. No they cannot, unless you're bored.
Maybe you should actually *talk* to Rosita to understand why she has the Vanilla trait by default. Would have answered the question without you needing to rant about it for some reason. She fucking *hates* being a prostitute, it's in her Background or Hopes and Dreams. She's only working for Furry because she has to. That's it. She despises the activities and actions she has to do, but since she's a prostitute she's naturally going to have high sex stats because well, that's part of the job.

It's a default trait, because it's part of her personality, which again; you would have known if you did her quest/talked to her and paid attention. Her *personal* personality and attitude towards sex is going to be separate from whether she learns the skills necessary to do her job. And don't bother rerolling, it's a preset trait, she'll always have it.
 

JGreen90

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Someone should do the calculations for min-max tavern again, see if something changed. Because the old min-max one just goes four bouncers + Clea/Doyle to max the Tavern income with gambling on and max reputation, outside of prostitution.

Yeah, Grim capped the +modifiers for Beauty down to +100 last year, so 145 is the highest a random can go now. But 145 isn't technically the max Beauty, because children take the base beauty of the mother and can add up to 25 for themselves from RNG and having the Attractive trait (also an RNG roll).

What are you talking about? Subbed? MoR Enhanced? What does it have to do with anything here and what talent? Aesir is +11 damage for the best combat character in the game, the MC on a combat build. That's it. The Aesir trait from character creation, if that's what you mean, can be left alone. You can choose Aesir or you can choose another religion, that's fine. The game is designed to be open.

You train it in or train it away, because this is a trainer game. I have been a proponent of making the Kymanto girls fixed traits so people no longer feel compelled to reroll and Grim can make sure each girl has the traits that matches their personality and story completely. That means no Perfectionist or Workaholic by default on anyone but Amelia Stark and Valeria Helm in Kymanto Hall. I should bring it up again in discord.

Because Rosita is a very vanilla girl who was forced by circumstances to whore herself, but the sex she wants is purely vanilla. You have the option to train it away. It's one of the easiest trait to.

That should not be possible. I'll report that as a bug if somehow you are getting trait gains, because away positions should make it impossible.
What are you talking about? 3% non sub versus 7% sub to damage, of course you can buy the talent on both sub and non sub, but you won't have the points unless you take more negatives then me. There is a direct talent that boosts either Catholic or Aesir. Catholic grants the sacred mallet. Aesir increase damage. Neither can change religions after taking the talent and both have increased standing from start.

Aesir is inept for the inept. The damage is minor without a bigger boost. Minus influence isn't worth it. Not until you built your house, it needs a reactor and big upgrades for influence gain, again minus by certain investments. Catholic grants Stamina, and you won't recover it daily, the last time I played Aesir. Not without more recovery from the bathroom.

Catholic boosts the Abbey. It is an easy educator and gains more on catholic standing. Not that it matter. Aesir is for noobs. But the damage. Pointless

No No No. It's people like you on Grim's discord and here that have fucked the shit out of it. Horrible useless traits that you can spend hours rolling. They have nothing to do with their obvious roles, hopes and dreams, and obvious paths. Why because you sat there waiting for the next update with nothing better to do. It has become an awful experience. WTF has Lovisa got pacifist pure and brawler for? Explain it? It's autistic. Why Juno, secret garden, and Nicole, a reporter, and Lovisa a pacifist, into the arena? Why on Earth, what would possess somebody, apart from the deranged? Nothing better to do then wreck it for everybody else playing from start. Rebecca no Brawler as its hardcoding? Literally 30minutes trying to get her obvious trait of brawler. I just picked up Eliana, and she has warrior/brawler the first time, but she's a nympho pervert, hardcoded? Rosita with massive sex skills, a vanilla? Who fucking wrote this shitshow? It's ridiculous, it's autism. Yes I might spend hours educating and training and what not. Pointlessly. No point. They have obvious roles that don't take much training and their stats reflect them.
 
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PhilimTuoSio

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I can't seem to find an answer for this anywhere, but was there a reason you can't have two people assigned to the morning blowjob thing anymore? I remember some time ago, you could have two people do it at the same time. You can assign it to two people now, but it just seems like it randomly alternates between which of the two blows the MC in the morning.
 

Silver1315

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I can't seem to find an answer for this anywhere, but was there a reason you can't have two people assigned to the morning blowjob thing anymore? I remember some time ago, you could have two people do it at the same time. You can assign it to two people now, but it just seems like it randomly alternates between which of the two blows the MC in the morning.
I'm actually not sure having two people at *once* give a morning blowjob was a thing. I don't remember it at least, and I've been playing since for a fair bit. Maybe it was much earlier though. It's relatively recent that you can assign girls to alternate randomly too. Maybe you're thinking of the old threesome engine, which did get re-added recently for most girls (with no/default renders) or specific pairings that have unique renders.

You can assign multiple girls now, without having to remove one and set another; and it will alternate randomly. I definitely don't remember having multiple girls give morning blowjobs at the same time since I started playing though, if that's what you're asking.
 
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