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ffive

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You start The Ring questline by going to Raikan and talking to a guy in one of the stores. Requirement for starting it is having sufficient power, 5 maybe?.
Oh, i fucking wish. It's not power that's required to start the quest, it's 10k influence. (or defeating Black Scorpion)
 

Zarkhy

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Oh, i fucking wish. It's not power that's required to start the quest, it's 10k influence. (or defeating Black Scorpion)
Well, wiki (Haruki's store page) claims it's 14 power value.

Though when I finally remembered to do it I'm pretty sure I had more than 14 power value and 10k+ influence but hadn't defeated Black Scorpion, so who knows.
 
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ffive

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Well, wiki (Haruki's store page) claims it's 14 power value.

Though when I finally remembered to do it I'm pretty sure I had more than 14 power value and 10k+ influence but hadn't defeated Black Scorpion, so who knows.
I guess it's just something that was changed in the meantime. Game script in the current version has this:
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<<if $raien1 gte 1 and $credit lte 9999>>
<br><br>''//
You have to gain Botan's trust either by defeating The Black Scorpion or reaching an Influence of 10,000+ in order to activate his quest. //''

<</if>>
Since i've done neither i'm getting by for the time being with large garden and Juno as semi-competent gardener (until i find someone better)
 

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Since i've done neither i'm getting by for the time being with large garden and Juno as semi-competent gardener (until i find someone better)
Wait, what's this got to do with competent gardeners...?
 

ffive

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Wait, what's this got to do with competent gardeners...?
This tangent started with question how to produce enough food, so i was getting back to that. If the girl with gardener assignment has decent Gardening skill, it increases yield from estate garden (between 25-100%) so it helps a bit with addressing that.
 
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Zarkhy

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This tangent started with question how to produce enough food, so i was getting back to that. If the girl with gardener assignment has decent Gardening skill, it increases yield from estate garden (between 25-100%) so it helps a bit with addressing that.
Oh, I thought we were strictly talking about how to start The Ring quest in order to get Zenobia,

At least that's what I was responding to, some other people were talking about the food issues. :geek:
 
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jinnhihho

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can someone give a rough estimate in how many quest there are because I can't seem to find new ones.
 

tooldev

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can someone give a rough estimate in how many quest there are because I can't seem to find new ones.
A large part of quests is connected to persons and less locations. meaning that a majority is character quests from slaves. These are not the 'random' ones you pick up after a fight though (with very few exceptions), but 'named' slaves from markets etc.
 
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jinnhihho

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A large part of quests is connected to persons and less locations. meaning that a majority is character quests from slaves. These are not the 'random' ones you pick up after a fight though (with very few exceptions), but 'named' slaves from markets etc.
Ok, thanks for that, gotta get more bucks to get some slaves :D
 

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Ok, thanks for that, gotta get more bucks to get some slaves :D
I am still writing the general guide, as the wiki is spreading those infos all over the place currently, but as a rule of thumb: with very few exceptions only female fighters, that have an actual name before you start a fight, are worth keeping and might be a slave with a quest. Anyone else is just a 'generic' one that might fill some household position, but doesnt come with extra quests.

As things are currently, not keeping any 'generic' ones, is kind of the best approach, as every single person in your household adds to food consumption, without helping you quest and location wise.

As for being able to acquire those with quests: Income from businesses and household requires huge investments first, before they make any notable dent in your daily income. Thus selling those 'generics' is your main income in the early stages. Either add them to your household first and try to sell them to one of the slave markets. This is usually the best approach, if you dont want to cheat, as most of the time the market prices are going to be better than what the quick sell price is (there is some method to which one of the markets you offer them to. Experiment and you will find out yourself which is best for which slave type). Or use the cheesy F5-method while in the slave process window, until the sell price is somewhere upwards of 5k.
 
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lordofthheorder

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Guys what are the current endings in game? i made Aria c chancellor, want to see other endinds but its too long to play the game again........
 

vanpett

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Is there a way to reset the Haruto Pai bounty? I killed him long before Talika was capturable. Or is there another way of resetting that fight?
 

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As things are currently, not keeping any 'generic' ones, is kind of the best approach, as every single person in your household adds to food consumption, without helping you quest and location wise.
Well, for starters you lose out on those that rolled with Workaholic, but I know you hate talking about the workshop.
Is there a way to reset the Haruto Pai bounty? I killed him long before Talika was capturable. Or is there another way of resetting that fight?
SugarCube.State.active.variables.oldmonk = 1
Guys what are the current endings in game? i made Aria c chancellor, want to see other endinds but its too long to play the game again........
The other Aria path is not yet fully fleshed out and I am not sure if it will ever be as fleshed out as the Rebellion path since the only thing I heard about it is the ability to interact and hire back slave Aria from the mastersphere.
 

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Well, for starters you lose out on those that rolled with Workaholic, but I know you hate talking about the workshop.
There was never any hate on my side. In the context you remember my objection from, it was simply not a viable option to solve the problem of that particular person.

And yes - financially keeping any female for the workaholics trait is a bad deal. If one is lucky, males sell for up to 5k, females sell for a lot higher on average. Best price on quick sell ever seen for a male was around 2k. That is easily an average price one will get for any female on quick sell. The only way to get any decent money for a male, is to add them to household first and then sell to the market. Since most players will not have quick access to the Crystal slave market, they dont have the advantage of females selling way better there, than in Watery Eyes. That makes males the obvious choice to be resold and as workshop workers, if financials are tight.

P.S. All this is Meta again and not an answer to the question asked ;)
 

lordofthheorder

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Well, for starters you lose out on those that rolled with Workaholic, but I know you hate talking about the workshop.

SugarCube.State.active.variables.oldmonk = 1

The other Aria path is not yet fully fleshed out and I am not sure if it will ever be as fleshed out as the Rebellion path since the only thing I heard about it is the ability to interact and hire back slave Aria from the mastersphere.
Isnt Aria path a rebellion path? coud you become a chancellor yourself?
 

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I am still writing the general guide, as the wiki is spreading those infos all over the place currently, but as a rule of thumb: with very few exceptions only female fighters, that have an actual name before you start a fight, are worth keeping and might be a slave with a quest.
There are a fair number of captureable males that are worth keeping in my opinion but they're uniques, not randoms. Cassius and Truls are guaranteed to be good fighters (and can be save scummed to have malevolent in addition to their guaranteed brawler and warrior traits, Cassius has crackshot as well). Cultist Monk and Black Scorpion are ideal scavengers if you're willing to save scum them to make sure they actually have the scavenger trait (they're guaranteed at least 60 int and survival). Tuner has a unique trait (Manager) that is pretty nice for training up dance and performance on all your girls who are not shy.

There's also a unique male you can capture in the prowler questline, and at least 1 or 2 unique males you can capture as part of Aria's rebellion (one of whom starts off as a better accountant than Armand).
 

tooldev

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There are a fair number of captureable males that are worth keeping in my opinion but they're uniques, not randoms. Cassius and Truls are guaranteed to be good fighters (and can be save scummed to have malevolent in addition to their guaranteed brawler and warrior traits, Cassius has crackshot as well). Cultist Monk and Black Scorpion are ideal scavengers if you're willing to save scum them to make sure they actually have the scavenger trait (they're guaranteed at least 60 int and survival). Tuner has a unique trait (Manager) that is pretty nice for training up dance and performance on all your girls who are not shy.

There's also a unique male you can capture in the prowler questline, and at least 1 or 2 unique males you can capture as part of Aria's rebellion (one of whom starts off as a better accountant than Armand).
The original question was about quests. Part of my answer was , that most quests are related to persons (slaves in particular) and in the grand scheme of things currently females are the majority of providing quests. So while everything you write is true - so was my answer to that particular question. There are almost no quests related to male actors one can also capture or enslave
 

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Are v0.8.3.5 saves compatible with the new version? I have a save where I finally got my finances in order, so I restarting would be a bit of a pain.

I guess I could just test it out, but I've seen cases where everything looks fine until everything'll be completely fucked after an indeterminate amount of playing.
 
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