burned01

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Speaking of the Senate, there seems to be no point of going to the Senate meetings once you're High Senator unless you want to actively change stuff as not attending the meetings stops the bleeding of influence. There is no option to do nothing/vote on other measures. Am I missing something?
 
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I want to give this game another chance since it has been getting updates a lot. I see there is a new character creation. Is there a consensus in the community which class and traits are worth getting? Or maybe even a recommended build for newcomers?
I don't think there is a consensus, however I can recommend starting with expert scholar. Gives you 200$/day income, academy standing and job, influence boost for the early emerald city access, nice bonus in stats/skills that are difficult to train (Int, Academics,Science) and also in some skills that are quite important and helpful early game - charisma and manipulation. You can train them easy with caress and suggest sex from seduction but the initial boost helps getting to the training part fast with some easy girl like Amelia for example.

For the more advanced start you could try something that I recently tested and was very satisfied with on normal 280 points start, grimdark difficulty and dying world - lower beauty to 5, take debt, haunted, stim allergy for extra points and use the points for adept soldier, tough, brainy, manhunter and deadly strike and +5 extra intelligence. Healing without tendstims is not that bad, you have immediate access to the virax springs before upgrading the bathroom and later nurses and implants help a lot too. Beauty can be easily bought with surgeries.

Also keep in mind 5d20 dice setting gives most predicable results but also gives most crits for skill checks, crit on sum 55 (2.95%) or 69 (1.42%) for a total 4.37% chance.
 

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The wiki lists all the possible methods, but some of them are purely random like end of day events and some are rare or quite risky if she doesn't have a lot of corruption to begin with. Best way to start would be with some simple regular oral sex sessions, then after she stops getting more work on her vaginal sex, affection, lower willpower with explaining sexual duties until she can accept casual bondage and can orgasm from vaginal sex there. Then you have an easy way to work on corruption and other possibilities open.
 
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I want to give this game another chance since it has been getting updates a lot. I see there is a new character creation. Is there a consensus in the community which class and traits are worth getting? Or maybe even a recommended build for newcomers?
My advice would be to forego skills and attributes that are easy to train in the game like all of the combat skills and focus on useful skills that are very difficult to naturally get in the game like manipulate, charisma, and intelligence. I usally play on the max difficulty and the rise from the ashes option and start by maxing those three as high as I can get them. Combat skills can be trained as can physical skills. Willpower can be trained by becoming a devout athiest. Academics, and science can be trained in the taverns and working the assyembly line. Beauty can be bought at the Doctors office. Medicine can be trained in battle. Copulation and kissing arent super important as long as flagellation and bondage are high but they can both be trained through practice. Flagellation and bondage can be trained at furrys tavern in the velvet room and through practice. Blacksmithing and Artisan can both be increased by crafting stuff. However, while it is possible to increase intelligence, charisma and manipulaiton, it takes forever and brute forcing it just isnt worth the time sink. This is especially true for manipulation.

Also, I made the mistake in my first play through of using the books and taking the academy courses as soon as I had the money to do so. My advice would be to train the skills to the max you can get them before doing the books and courses corresponding to the skill they offer. The training methods I mentioned earlier have a skill cap that wont let you train a skill beyond a certain level but the books and courses do not. So, max out your training before reading the books and doing the courses to get the maximun benifit from them.
 

Leobbb

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However, while it is possible to increase intelligence, charisma and manipulaiton, it takes forever and brute forcing it just isnt worth the time sink. This is especially true for manipulation.
I agree with intelligence being difficult to increase other than one time bonuses but both charisma and manipulation are easily trainable.

Do a seduction sesssion with a willing but not broken girl then just spam caress twice, something else like kissing once and repeat, you are likely to roll a +1 charisma before the session is over. And some kissing increases too, though they are not that important.

Then just do suggest sex, anal (any type really that you can have success with but anal is the first button), politely, continue, cancel, repeat. On the screen with the successful charisma roll and two buttons continue and cancel there is a chance for +1 manipulation increase. The cycle can be repeated until her arousal goes too low, but if she really likes you it can even go up.

The cap for both is 100, I can have both charisma and manipulation at 100 in the first month completely legit way, without F5 refreshing or savescumming, if I keep refreshing to get a crit roll it's basically one ingame day. Might just as well cheat to 100 to save time.
 

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I agree with intelligence being difficult to increase other than one time bonuses but both charisma and manipulation are easily trainable.

Do a seduction sesssion with a willing but not broken girl then just spam caress twice, something else like kissing once and repeat, you are likely to roll a +1 charisma before the session is over. And some kissing increases too, though they are not that important.

Then just do suggest sex, anal (any type really that you can have success with but anal is the first button), politely, continue, cancel, repeat. On the screen with the successful charisma roll and two buttons continue and cancel there is a chance for +1 manipulation increase. The cycle can be repeated until her arousal goes too low, but if she really likes you it can even go up.

The cap for both is 100, I can have both charisma and manipulation at 100 in the first month completely legit way, without F5 refreshing or savescumming, if I keep refreshing to get a crit roll it's basically one ingame day. Might just as well cheat to 100 to save time.
I will make a point of trying this on my next playthrough. I have always had issues training all three of them and I never realized this worked. Probably because I tend to max their corruption and elimiate their willpower through bondage as soon as I get them. Thank you for the advice!
 

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This game wiki is really good
The whole wiki has gotten far better in the past few months due to the efforts of several people including at least one of the regulars here. Color me impressed as I've seen several sandbox game wikis that, to be blunt, aren't that good. Has made playing this far more interesting in a good way.
 
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Zarkhy

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should i read the textbooks at the start of a new game or should I wait to get cap ?
You should wait, also with completing Academy courses.

You don't need to wait until you're capped at each stat, but don't *start* with the books/courses.
 
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I want to give this game another chance since it has been getting updates a lot. I see there is a new character creation. Is there a consensus in the community which class and traits are worth getting? Or maybe even a recommended build for newcomers?
You can be good at everything eventually, but if you want something that makes you OK at combat immediately, be an Expert soldier and hire Einar Corso (he does it for a low price in this case). Expert scholar is also good because of the free $200 a day plus the ability to teach at the university for more money plus Intelligence is an important stat to have high to maximize skill gains from books+lessons.
 

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I want to give this game another chance since it has been getting updates a lot. I see there is a new character creation. Is there a consensus in the community which class and traits are worth getting? Or maybe even a recommended build for newcomers?
Not exactly a newcomer build, but I'd focus on "Mind/Charm" skills like Intelligence, charm, manipulation, flagellation, kissing, copulation and etc... Since those are a pain to train, while physical skills like Stamina, Melee/Ranged Skill, Strenght, Dexterity are easy to train since you can train those twice per day, I'd reccomend the Wealthy and Disciplined trait for beginners
 

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Does anyone know if you can get income from the Academy and the Underworld? I have attempted investing in both of them but have yet to see any return on my investment. I just dont want to put any more money into them if they never actually return anything.
 

Zarkhy

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Does anyone know if you can get income from the Academy and the Underworld? I have attempted investing in both of them but have yet to see any return on my investment. I just dont want to put any more money into them if they never actually return anything.
Academy pays out never (from donations)

The Underworld only once you're the leader.
 

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Academy pays out never (from donations)

The Underworld only once you're the leader.
If the Academy doesnt pay out through donations, is there another way to get it to pay out? There is a section on the business tab under factions specifically devoted to the Academy or is it just not implemented yet?
 

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so... I broke gorge. I got his wife val, Lovi and Tori's mom, pregnant. Around the 120th day of pregnancy gorge's affection dropped to -20 his anger shot up to 20, he lost his relationship-trait, gained Hated, Jaded, Detached and Deadly Enemy, and was still docile.... On the other hand, val, lovi and tori gained affection and happiness.


Right here is a bit of code you can and to the html file via note pad++ or whatever, it adds a random to your house without buying or capture.
Make changes as wished, this adds a random daughter.
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What's an NPCs happiness tied to, what's the point of it? Low or high it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
 
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