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iamnuff

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Just to make sure, you're on 0.8.4c, not 0.8.4.1c?
Double checked this. I'm on 0841c-Tier4. The version currently in the OP as of this time yesterday.
Why, is 8.4.1 broken and 8.4 not? Or is 0.8.4c somehow newer?
 

Nexor6

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Well maybe for you as you probably don't raise them properly.

10 of my daughters are Performers they bring me a combined +400 daily income and +150 daily influence.
Another 10 are Scientist and they bring +350 daily income and +50 daily influence.
And the last 10 are Professors +250 daily income and +40 daily influence.

Their not meant for you to keep at home forever once they are grown you send them out to bring you more wealth and influence.
ah, i actually haven't gotten to the point of being able to send them out. I know there was an option for this but didn't exactly know how it worked. But my stance still stands, the combined income your daughters are providing is basically meaningless in my game at least, considering i can easily earn several hundred thousand every so often from a single workshop
 

Zarkhy

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Double checked this. I'm on 0841c-Tier4. The version currently in the OP as of this time yesterday.
Why, is 8.4.1 broken and 8.4 not? Or is 0.8.4c somehow newer?
No difference AFAIK, at least as far as this quest is concerned, but it's always best to be clear about these things.

In the interest of clarity, did you check if anyone was already assigned to the job, or if you could manage to do it on a fresh save?
 

Troop80

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No. For the incest patch I made, I didn't change that variable at all (maybe removed it a few times). There's a lot of code you've gotta modify/delete in order to make incest really work.
incest is easy to turn on, but any other sex is turned off, the event triggers are somehow cleverly written, or I'm just so stupid and don't notice something in the code!
 

iamnuff

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No difference AFAIK, at least as far as this quest is concerned, but it's always best to be clear about these things.

In the interest of clarity, did you check if anyone was already assigned to the job, or if you could manage to do it on a fresh save?
Welp, I can assign on a new save, but the mission didn't proc from talking to her, so i'm just sending a person for the regular job.
Also, on a fresh save the home UI is completely diffrent.
Weird.

I'll have to look more into it later, out of time right now
 

Zarkhy

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Welp, I can assign on a new save, but the mission didn't proc from talking to her, so i'm just sending a person for the regular job.
You have to buy the correct book before talking to her to proc the quest.

Also, on a fresh save the home UI is completely diffrent.
Weird.
Maybe add a screenshot or two.

Sounds like a mod perhaps? What else would affect home UI? If it's a mod, then someone who knows about said mod can probably help you a bit more.

But clearly there's nothing wrong with the game if it works just fine on a fresh save.
 

Sariia

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incest is easy to turn on, but any other sex is turned off, the event triggers are somehow cleverly written, or I'm just so stupid and don't notice something in the code!
Incest plus every sex is turned on in my patch (minus sex with minors, of course).
Also, you're not stupid. I got confused at first too. For the sex acts, setting mychild and incestblock to true would make it so that only incestuous sex is possible. No sex with slaves, servants, or even your wife.

And keeping it on "isnot true" would not make incestuous situations possible at all.

So what's the solution? Delete them from the code. Instead of modifying them to "is true" or whatever, just remove them; ideally removing the "$cens" variable as well, since that could complicate things due to it having both a "1" and an "undefined" aspect associated with two different areas pertaining to incest.

Be careful with removing certain "$cens" though. Not every one should go—you'd break incest, maybe the game too. I can tell you're already capable of handling the code, so just read, analyze, and see what's what.

Edit: Actually, I double checked and think I'm remembering incorrectly (messed with too many lines of code, my b). It isn't necessary to touch the "$cens" variable at all. It'd actually be best to leave it alone. Don't remove it anywhere. Don't change it all.

Do go ahead and delete the mychild and incestblock wherever necessary though.
 
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iamnuff

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You have to buy the correct book before talking to her to proc the quest.


Maybe add a screenshot or two.

Sounds like a mod perhaps? What else would affect home UI? If it's a mod, then someone who knows about said mod can probably help you a bit more.

But clearly there's nothing wrong with the game if it works just fine on a fresh save.
I don't have mods.
Also, if I had a mod, surely it would effect both saves?
That would be Linemod enabled in the Game Settings page 2.
And that's enabled by default on new saves?
 

mattyboi

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I don't have mods.
Also, if I had a mod, surely it would effect both saves?

And that's enabled by default on new saves?
Screenshot 2025-04-07 220943.png

just tested it out, it's definitely the lineman mod that changes to the menu to the compact version but it shouldn't be enabled by default.
 

wil2rennes

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I'm stuck on this one > taking down the hulk > only problem is i need to hack the door if i want to reach that pump
 

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And that's enabled by default on new saves?
Should be, last I checked.

I'm stuck on this one > taking down the hulk > only problem is i need to hack the door if i want to reach that pump
Hacking ability is determined by:
  • Base chance = MC's Science Skill (so 20-130).
  • MC with Techie trait: +20.
  • Each Follower with Techie trait: +15.
  • Each level of Handheld Computer above 1: +15 (so +0-30).
  • Each Grid Key possessed: +4.
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Zarkhy

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I'm stuck on this one > taking down the hulk > only problem is i need to hack the door if i want to reach that pump
Just buy a handheld computer from the general store and add every Techie in your household to party for the hacking attempt.

Though that quest does not require that you hack the door, hacking it simply allows you to poison your enemies, which makes fighting them a lot easier.

Note that if you have high enough influence (8k?), you can sell the captured enemies from that quest to the Hunt Research Lab for 7.5k each. Also one unique girl available to capture in the last fight.

So bring your best melee fighters with staffs and whipping canes.
 

Troop80

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Incest plus every sex is turned on in my patch (minus sex with minors, of course).
Also, you're not stupid. I got confused at first too. For the sex acts, setting mychild and incestblock to true would make it so that only incestuous sex is possible. No sex with slaves, servants, or even your wife.

And keeping it on "isnot true" would not make incestuous situations possible at all.

So what's the solution? Delete them from the code. Instead of modifying them to "is true" or whatever, just remove them; ideally removing the "$cens" variable as well, since that could complicate things due to it having both a "1" and an "undefined" aspect associated with two different areas pertaining to incest.

Be careful with removing certain "$cens" though. Not every one should go—you'd break incest, maybe the game too. I can tell you're already capable of handling the code, so just read, analyze, and see what's what.

Edit: Actually, I double checked and think I'm remembering incorrectly (messed with too many lines of code, my b). It isn't necessary to touch the "$cens" variable at all. It'd actually be best to leave it alone. Don't remove it anywhere. Don't change it all.

Do go ahead and delete the mychild and incestblock wherever necessary though.
:oops:(y)
 

iamnuff

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If she will not talk to you, check if she hates you because you insulted her place. To do this, press Control + Shift + J and paste this:

SugarCube.State.active.variables.disp_book
This is 99


SugarCube.State.active.variables.disp_book2
this is 2

I don't know if either of those things are good, tbh. You didn't exactly tell me what they're supposed ot be at this stage in the quest.
If that is not the problem, you can try talking to her about one of the books she is selling. If that is not an option yet, you need to check that book in your library.
There's no option to talk to her about the book. I appeared in a fresh save when I speedran the Art Of Paine 2 and got to her as soon as possible, but in my actual main save it never appeared.

Also, 'Art of Paine 2' isn't in the library (in either save) it's a skillbook which you read through the Advanced Training menu, (which I have already read.)

I don't suppose you know which variable I'd need to alter to set that book back to unread? or perhaps even unbought?

I assume it's one of the
SugarCube.State.active.variables.bondbook options? or is it Disp_book2 that you mentioned above?

Edit: Since it was asked before and I apparently never answered, I do not have anybody already assigned to the book store job, and i'm not sure if i've ever been able to assign anybody to it.

Edit2: Apparantly i've read Bondbook4, which is Art of Paine 3, which... i'm pretty sure I should have access to yet.
I may have... uh... fucked up while messing with book-training code trying to make it go faster.

Is there a way to unbuy that book, or reset whatever variable would be triggered by acquiring it early?
 
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Zarkhy

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Edit2: Apparantly i've read Bondbook4, which is Art of Paine 3, which... i'm pretty sure I should have access to yet.
I may have... uh... fucked up while messing with book-training code trying to make it go faster.

Is there a way to unbuy that book, or reset whatever variable would be triggered by acquiring it early?
You can buy and read the books in any order you damn well please, it makes no difference.

Also you don't need to have read the book to acquire the quest, just buy it.
 

iamnuff

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You can buy and read the books in any order you damn well please, it makes no difference.

Also you don't need to have read the book to acquire the quest, just buy it.
Well i've bought and read the book months ago (IRL) and so the option to talk to her about it ain't there.

Since the second book (Art of Paine 2) triggers the quest, I was assuming that part 3 was the reward for it or something, so me having cheated to get a book that isn't supposed to be available yet might have broken the quest.

If there's a console command to restart the whole quest or unread the book, I could try those to trigger the start-of-quest again.
 

Darkminou

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Do you get anything specific if you stay loyal to Derwin and just make Aria a fuckpuppet instead of doing her quest?
 
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