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That's why I was saying that some patreons I've heard have complained a little bit about it. Some friends I know who are patreons are no longer very convinced of the direction it is taking... and is sad because this developer know very well how pleasure ppl. Many have begun to see that for a few updates, he has focused a little too much on share/NTR. Especially from some things you said yourself. Cut some scene and poorly finished scenes in the no NTR version. I remember that in the past he didn't cut, but gave the same space to both.
For example: take for example the scene of the mother with Steve. In the past he would not only remove Steve, but he would make sure that the mother would come back to the room and they would end up having a threesome Max/The mother/Joise.
Now in this update he cut here and there. Also the pissing scene where Nicole without ask anything to Max, she just go there in the whell event and piss in Bruno mouth. I also had pissing off, but the pissing scene is always there... and there is no choice to not let her piss in Bruno mouth. Anyway i play every update with NTR off and me game go well without any problem.
The problem with the other girls (no harem girls/women) depend of how Kuggazer wants to handle it. Because the way they have been used in these updates, it means that they cannot become future love interests. Because no NTR would let in the blonde or the others who have been fucked by everyone in these updates. He practically burned a lot of girls.
As you say is sad. I can only hope the he return to making impartial events and give the right space to both. As I see it, it should put the shared/ntr aside a bit and focus on the No NTR for a while. After that it has to become impartial and work on both paths in the exact same way. If you do 100% things on one path, you must have 100% on the other as well. In this update i feel like 80%/100%. there were scenes where I basically kept clicking to go forward. Because you see a little too much male dicks. And it bothered me a lot. And my excitement has dropped a lot. Otherwise I'm sorry to say... but I find it hard for him to stick with all the active fans he has now.
First let's see how he fix the bugs that have been noticed in this version. I'm talking about those in the gallery. In case maybe he could even fix those two scenes we're talking about. Even if I see it hard. Then for the future we will see how he intends to carry things forward
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I agree with your every word, but something tells me that Kuggazer doesn't give a damn about any of this.That's why I was saying that some patreons I've heard have complained a little bit about it. Some friends I know who are patreons are no longer very convinced of the direction it is taking... and is sad because this developer know very well how pleasure ppl. Many have begun to see that for a few updates, he has focused a little too much on share/NTR. Especially from some things you said yourself. Cut some scene and poorly finished scenes in the no NTR version. I remember that in the past he didn't cut, but gave the same space to both.
For example: take for example the scene of the mother with Steve. In the past he would not only remove Steve, but he would make sure that the mother would come back to the room and they would end up having a threesome Max/The mother/Joise.
Now in this update he cut here and there. Also the pissing scene where Nicole without ask anything to Max, she just go there in the whell event and piss in Bruno mouth. I also had pissing off, but the pissing scene is always there... and there is no choice to not let her piss in Bruno mouth. Anyway i play every update with NTR off and me game go well without any problem.
The problem with the other girls (no harem girls/women) depend of how Kuggazer wants to handle it. Because the way they have been used in these updates, it means that they cannot become future love interests. Because no NTR would let in the blonde or the others who have been fucked by everyone in these updates. He practically burned a lot of girls.
As you say is sad. I can only hope the he return to making impartial events and give the right space to both. As I see it, it should put the shared/ntr aside a bit and focus on the No NTR for a while. After that it has to become impartial and work on both paths in the exact same way. If you do 100% things on one path, you must have 100% on the other as well. In this update i feel like 80%/100%. there were scenes where I basically kept clicking to go forward. Because you see a little too much male dicks. And it bothered me a lot. And my excitement has dropped a lot. Otherwise I'm sorry to say... but I find it hard for him to stick with all the active fans he has now.
First let's see how he fix the bugs that have been noticed in this version. I'm talking about those in the gallery. In case maybe he could even fix those two scenes we're talking about. Even if I see it hard. Then for the future we will see how he intends to carry things forward
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It's sad... There are so many women on the yacht that I would love to see in scenes with the MC but they're never involved in any of the good scenes.
Edit: What the actual fuck was THAT? Roxy, Cherry and Ana were near the top of that list of side characters I was talking about there ^ whom I wish there was more content with and what happens? They apparently gangbanged that little shit Steve.
I have NTR off normally but I just got to the end of this update and what the hell happened? Even with NTR off** I still got forced into the scene of Steve fucking Roxy while the MC was relegated to one of the women with a more masculine body than his own (which made this whole sequence even less enjoyable.)
Finally, to top it all off we skip the scene that resulted in this
and we only get to see the aftermath, because who would ever have wanted to see the events that led to that situation? Right guys?
At this rate I'm giving what was once one of my favorite VNs one more chance before I cancel my patreon subscription. The only reason I'm giving one more chance is the inclusion of the scene with Amanda, that seemed more like the older chapters of the game (fucking the girl that was with some random dudes right in front of him). Nevertheless, with the porno presumably happening in the next update and goddamned Steve being one of the main actors I'm not super confident that the Dev won't release some bullshit update like, an the whole thing being centered around the MC doing nothing but setting up girls for Steve.
Edit 2: I was about to post about how I just got to the scene with Ana and Cherry and I was going to say that it almost makes up for Alisia and the MC's Aunt suddenly deciding to call up some random dude to grind on.
I was... Then I hit the part where for no reason Cherry decides to have every guy present INSTEAD OF the MC, when did this game shift from being the MC dealing with problems (usually solved by introducing his dick into the situation) while sorta unintentionally assembling a large number of the women in the city into a harem and turn into some sort of NTR/"sharing" project.
At this point I won't be surprised if Kuggazer continues more or less in this direction until eventually either he loses all those subscribers on patreon or the updates get worse about this change until they're nothing but Steve and the women treating the MC like a cuckold, whichever happens first.
**It's just AWESOME how many scenes get cut out of recent updates if you have NTR turned off by the way. Before I read some of the recent replies I didn't even know that the no-NTR option results in less content. This whole time I had been supporting this on Patreon never knowing that I was missing out on scenes just because I preferred to not watch that bullshit.
Edit: What the actual fuck was THAT? Roxy, Cherry and Ana were near the top of that list of side characters I was talking about there ^ whom I wish there was more content with and what happens? They apparently gangbanged that little shit Steve.
I have NTR off normally but I just got to the end of this update and what the hell happened? Even with NTR off** I still got forced into the scene of Steve fucking Roxy while the MC was relegated to one of the women with a more masculine body than his own (which made this whole sequence even less enjoyable.)
Finally, to top it all off we skip the scene that resulted in this
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At this rate I'm giving what was once one of my favorite VNs one more chance before I cancel my patreon subscription. The only reason I'm giving one more chance is the inclusion of the scene with Amanda, that seemed more like the older chapters of the game (fucking the girl that was with some random dudes right in front of him). Nevertheless, with the porno presumably happening in the next update and goddamned Steve being one of the main actors I'm not super confident that the Dev won't release some bullshit update like, an the whole thing being centered around the MC doing nothing but setting up girls for Steve.
Edit 2: I was about to post about how I just got to the scene with Ana and Cherry and I was going to say that it almost makes up for Alisia and the MC's Aunt suddenly deciding to call up some random dude to grind on.
I was... Then I hit the part where for no reason Cherry decides to have every guy present INSTEAD OF the MC, when did this game shift from being the MC dealing with problems (usually solved by introducing his dick into the situation) while sorta unintentionally assembling a large number of the women in the city into a harem and turn into some sort of NTR/"sharing" project.
At this point I won't be surprised if Kuggazer continues more or less in this direction until eventually either he loses all those subscribers on patreon or the updates get worse about this change until they're nothing but Steve and the women treating the MC like a cuckold, whichever happens first.
**It's just AWESOME how many scenes get cut out of recent updates if you have NTR turned off by the way. Before I read some of the recent replies I didn't even know that the no-NTR option results in less content. This whole time I had been supporting this on Patreon never knowing that I was missing out on scenes just because I preferred to not watch that bullshit.
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It's just a game. Do you really care who's fucking with who? You could see the missing scenes just by using UnRen
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I don't feel like getting into the the subject of NTR and why I (and a not insignificant number of people who post here) strongly dislike scenarios involving it but I will say that I don't spend time playing these just to watch sex scenes with no real regard for who was participating .
If that was the only reason and it made no difference who was involved then I could save a ton of time just watching traditional porn.
I mean, this shouldn't be taken seriously. In this game, there is not even any choice of development of events. So it's more like watching a movie. The game has been in development for a very long time and there may already be no ideas. When all the girl in the game wants only Max, it also looks strange and quickly gets boring
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I'll give you that one, it would have gotten boring eventually** but to go from virtually no NTR or anything similar for the first roughly 5 years it's been in development to an update where there's almost as much time and attention devoted to watching Steve, some random black guy, and Junior having sex as the MC gets. It's really jarring the way it the dev suddenly decided to fill the recent updates with that sort of content. IMO it definitely would have been better off if Kuggazer had just left those scenes out and just put out a couple of updates either shorter than usual or release those updates behind schedule but with the usual amount of content.
**With the number of women that have been introduced then like, forgotten about up to this point in the story with some creativity it would have been possible to keep new storylines and whatnot nice and entertaining for quite a while. T
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