Comics Collection Melissa N. Collection [2024-12-19] [Melissa N.]

[Thalantyr]

There's an interesting story there. Plus it would have a sympathetic lead who's keen to learn more about the feminisation of her husband, whether he truly is trapped in hiding or if he's always felt feminine and saw a golden opportunity and grabbed it with both hands.

Melissa is hiding things for her readers and slowly reveals information because of returning memory shards, Marina learning that information from her family and/or her husband/aunt would have given similar cliffhangers and information drips on us as readers. We'd be with her on a path of discovery in what's really happening rather than having to rely on a dream or something.

That sounds like it might make a decent standalone horror/mystery story, but you'd certainly lose most of the story's appeal as feminization erotica, i.e., all the sex scenes, which Marina of course did not witness, as well as all the inner thoughts of how the transformed character is feeling about their changes.

 

[Stevedore100]

That sounds like it might make a decent standalone horror/mystery story, but you'd certainly lose most of the story's appeal as feminization erotica, i.e., all the sex scenes, which Marina of course did not witness, as well as all the inner thoughts of how the transformed character is feeling about their changes.

I wish there had been more about what Elena feels in the story we have - she retains the passiveness of the characters in Melissa's otter stories. This deception bus supposed to be about venting the deal btwn Nikos and Toska, but that is entirely forgotten,even though it would be Andrew's craziest escape route out of this. We get a lot of Elena being unsure if what she wants, but it's usually a quickly passing thought that leads to no action, unless it's to go have a round with Nikos. Mark ba, for that matter, hasn't seemed to push for this to be included either.
I think they would each be more interesting if they showed some backbone, or at least thought about how to get out of this instead of just plugging along

 

[misseva88]

That sounds like it might make a decent standalone horror/mystery story, but you'd certainly lose most of the story's appeal as feminization erotica, i.e., all the sex scenes, which Marina of course did not witness, as well as all the inner thoughts of how the transformed character is feeling about their changes.

It would depend on Melissas approach. I know I'm pitching a different story altogether, so take it with a pinch of salt, but it could be a mystery story where the exact same events as we know them happen, but rather than see them happen (either via flashbacks or in real time) through Marinas eyes, we learn them as they're told (so in an other flashback) to Marina. The sex could be shown that wayl.

I don't know, I'm not sure how Elenas inner thoughts really add a lot to the story. She thinks A, does B which contradicts A, then thinks A again only to do B again. I find it pretty frustrating to be in her head, not just with the often contradicting messages but also with the memory lapses. And she's neither charming or sympathetic enough for my liking. So for me, I'm mostly invested in the mystery and the sunk cost of my time invested in the story. I feel the mystery aspect of the story can be achieved via Marina, who's also more sympathetic, charming and cuter.
Oh well. Now that I have my own creatives juices flowing I might as well go back to writing my own stuff.

 

[Sstpa]

It would depend on Melissas approach. I know I'm pitching a different story altogether, so take it with a pinch of salt, but it could be a mystery story where the exact same events as we know them happen, but rather than see them happen (either via flashbacks or in real time) through Marinas eyes, we learn them as they're told (so in an other flashback) to Marina. The sex could be shown that wayl.

I don't know, I'm not sure how Elenas inner thoughts really add a lot to the story. She thinks A, does B which contradicts A, then thinks A again only to do B again. I find it pretty frustrating to be in her head, not just with the often contradicting messages but also with the memory lapses. And she's neither charming or sympathetic enough for my liking. So for me, I'm mostly invested in the mystery and the sunk cost of my time invested in the story. I feel the mystery aspect of the story can be achieved via Marina, who's also more sympathetic, charming and cuter.
Oh well. Now that I have my own creatives juices flowing I might as well go back to writing my own stuff.

This would be a very cool shorter series that she could do, especially when the story’s wrapped up and we know what really happened. It wouldn’t have to be as long as we know everything that’s happened and we just get to see certain parts through Marinas eyes. I love the concept

 

[Elaine.]

We the readers know that Andrew wasn't totally aware of what was going to happen because we have information that Marina doesn't have. I think that's the point misseva88 is trying to make. Andrew has already broken Marina's trust once, and the story he's telling her about being drugged and agreeing to things without realizing it is so unbelievable that it's totally reasonable for Marina to think that he's lying, especially because of his past indiscretions.

If you caught your husband sleeping with another man, and the excuse he gives you is basically "I was just confused, I thought I was really that guy's wife," are you going to believe him?

yes I see that. Certainly there has been a major loss of communication between Elena/ Andrew and Marina. She storms off to Crete and leaves Andrew behind. He doesnt even have her telephone number on a new phone that the daughters give him. Then she leaves him to the simple procedure in the clinic to deal with something that James has caused. By the time she returns presumably Andrew has been left unconscious for upwards of 4 weeks. She finds out afterwards the huge changes he has undergone. She certainly though has no idea of the mental gymnastics that Andrew has to undergo to remain what should be an insane situation to experience. Clearly their conventional marriage is over.

 

[rebirth095]

And I'm kinda disappointed that just seeing Gjoka is what triggered the amnesia. That seems like pretty weak storytelling, unless something else happened in the salon that we're still missing. I was expecting some sort of mind-bending identity crisis or body dysphoria.

It's written kind of weirdly, absolutely. Elena says with an extreme amount of certainty that she remembers passing out and then being in bed.

Let's take that for gospel. Elena sees Gjoka, suddenly has memory wiped along a pretty specific time period. So... this raises no alarm bells for ANYONE involved? Remember, Elena has literally just gotten out of the hospital. So when this woman gets out, goes to a salon, and randomly confesses to Nikos and then passes out... and then, hours later is super confused, disorientated, and then even brings up Andrew...

Like... how does that not immediately trigger her "loving" husband to take her back to the hospital?

To be honest, I've found it increasingly hard to be sympathetic to Andrew even from his POV. Seeing what "really" happened, and seeing what choices he made and why he made them consistently paints a picture to me of the kind of toxic personality that always has an excuse/explaination why it's not their fault. Always finds something at fault with another person to pick at, even when the contexts are completely different.

Of course Andrew didn't ask to be drugged. But there's plenty of choices here that are completely his choices that he did without a single consideration to the person he should value the most.

At best, Andrew is an idiot without any creativity. He keeps making dumb choices, and then when it backfires, he always has an excuse. Even though it's not like any of those choices had an actual endgame that could have been positive anyway!

Andrew insists that they keep this cover story going. WHY?! How does that resolve this problem? It's Marina/the Sisters/Seferi that apparently salvage this idiot plan to lure Toska back to with the wedding to have him arrested. Remember, Andrew had no idea what was going on with Joel. So his plan was basically just stall. Which isn't an actual plan!

Andrew insists that lying to Nikos that his marriage is fake and throwing Marina under the bus is something he has no alternative in. But remember, at this time, he didn't know anything about this wedding plan. From his POV, what's the purpose of keeping up the facade of Nikos and Elena still being a happy couple? You're telling me the super actor that is Andrew couldn't have come up with a performance where Elena gets in a fight with Nikos and "storms off". Maybe even "leaves with her beloved niece back to America?"

Even with "traditional values" Toska, you're telling me, they couldn't sell a cover story that Elena left all pissed, and Nikos couldn't have just told Toska: "You know women. Bitches be crazy." That probably would have fed into the old bastards sexism way easier than whatever absurd story Andrew ended up trying to sell!

I get that there's some extenuating circumstances, and that the initial feminization probably triggered whatever addiction Andrew has that brings his method acting dedication to the forefront. However, there's plenty of choices he's made that consistantly throw particularly Marina under the bus.

Genuinely, are we really supposed to be seeing "both sides" here, or has this set up been slowly unveiling that Andrew is a shitty person? And him being stuck as a single Elena is part of karma for that? I mean, based on this chapter, it seems Nikos was only physically attracted to Elena, and channeling some serious incel energy, as soon as he had a woman confess her love to him, he was on board being married to this person that has demonstrated no noteworthy personality notes. Like, from a personality standpoing, what was it that he fell in love with? Where's the charisma? Intelligent conversations? What actually drew Nikos to Elena?

So now that the ruse is revealed, why the hell would Nikos go through with this wedding? And let's just say that somehow Elena patches things up with Nikos... Is that a happy ending? It's literally a relationship founded on a lie. So where's the satisfaction in that?

 

[misseva88]

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[Oled65cxpua]

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[misseva88]

Missing page 149

Thanks, it's included in the .rar file on Mediafire now.

 

[Oled65cxpua]

I'm calling it now. We are going to get another rushed, shitty ending to Aphrodite's Mirror this year, just as we did with Tug of War.

 

[Thalantyr]

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Now we're talking. Two villains identified for sure. And a new transformation.

 

[Jackjons]

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Now we're talking. Two villains identified for sure. And a new transformation.

Yea ! And why I do feel a vibe from job for a Milf ?

 

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Now we're talking. Two villains identified for sure. And a new transformation.

Two villains? Can you expand on that? I think I’m slow picking up the second here.

Also she’s been there for THREE YEARS? This predates even Andrew’s fuck up with Mr. Orlov. So whatever she’s wrapped up in isn’t solely revolving around Andrew’s feminization.

 

[misseva88]

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[Thalantyr]

Two villains? Can you expand on that? I think I’m slow picking up the second here.

Angeliki and Joel. They're both in on "the plan", even if Joel is now also a victim of it. Both of them have exhibited a rotten personality showing indifference to the suffering of others (Angeliki in this scene, Joel in the scene where he gets shot). Also I think this scene tells us that Joel and Seferi do know that Elena is Andrew, because they're working with Angeliki and Angeliki was involved in Andrew's original transformation at the salon.

To refresh everyone's memory:


So the conspirators we know for sure are Seferi, Joel, and Angeliki. Seferi seems to be reluctant/remorseful, so he may not be full-blown villain, but the other two seem totally fine with what they're doing. Nikos and Marina appear to be innocent, but Eva and Sofia's role is still unclear. We know they spoke to Seferi about transforming Joel, but the story they told Elena could explain that. But my guess is that they're in on the plan too.

 

[rebirth095]

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Now we're talking. Two villains identified for sure. And a new transformation.

Yeah, about time we got a new sequence!

A few things stuck out to me.



This is a plan Joel is agreeing to? Last we knew, Seferi shot him and Joel was gonna wake up so far feminized and unrecognizable, he would have no choice but to testify against Toska (Seferi and the Sisters' plan). But right now, Joel seems to be discussing a different plan, one that involves Angeliki, his ex. And Joel is implying he can "ruin" this plan, which is a bit odd. Assuming this is in reference to his plan, not Seferi's, his plan now involves getting feminized and apparently seducing someone?



At this point, seems like the old man in question has to be Toska, right? I'd say it would need to be a person that hasn't been involved with the feminization storylines, but then again, Nikos was easily seduced by Andrew. So maybe Seferi or Nikos are still on the table.

Joel and Angeliki's plan has been going on for 3 years? So whatever this plan was, it is something that Joel anticipated being able to pull off, but also couldn't possibly have involved all this feminization.

Also, somehow pretending to be a hairdresser was a way to help get this plan in motion. On the one hand, the obvious connection to me was that Angeliki is a plant to get Nikos and Toska to do business, and somehow Joel was going to profit off that (for such a long term commitment, I'd have to assume Joel was thinking about usurping Toska). But the obvious issue with that is how is a hairdresser in a position to organically set up a deal between two business men?

For a moment, I was thinking Angeliki could be a contender for the blurred out woman speaking with Seferi. But that doesn't really hold up under scrutiny. Joel and Angeliki are currently working under their "three year plan". Clearly, due to recent events, they're adjusting it, but this doesn't seem to be something they're collaborating with Seferi on. As such, the dialogue at the hospital would make more sense with someone focused on the "wedding plan".

 

[Thalantyr]

This is a plan Joel is agreeing to? Last we knew, Seferi shot him and Joel was gonna wake up so far feminized and unrecognizable, he would have no choice but to testify against Toska (Seferi and the Sisters' plan). But right now, Joel seems to be discussing a different plan, one that involves Angeliki, his ex. And Joel is implying he can "ruin" this plan, which is a bit odd. Assuming this is in reference to his plan, not Seferi's, his plan now involves getting feminized and apparently seducing someone?

My first assumption was that this is still the same plan that Seferi and Joel have been communicating about since the beginning of the comic, except that Seferi was forced to adapt to unforeseen circumstances and transform Joel against his will. Joel is now forced to continue cooperating with the plan, presumably to collect some big payout that he's been working toward for three years that he doesn't want to go to waste by walking away from Seferi. This plan must have also included feminizing Andrew (or at least benefitted from it), since they've been talking about moving Elena around like a chess piece and we now know that they know that Elena is Andrew (since Angeliki knows, and they've been working with her).

At this point, seems like the old man in question has to be Toska, right? I'd say it would need to be a person that hasn't been involved with the feminization storylines, but then again, Nikos was easily seduced by Andrew. So maybe Seferi or Nikos are still on the table.

Toska was my first thought, but I suppose you have a point that they could be looking to seduce Nikos... again... Perhaps Elena isn't doing what they want, but Joelle would since "she" is actually in on the plan.

Also, somehow pretending to be a hairdresser was a way to help get this plan in motion. On the one hand, the obvious connection to me was that Angeliki is a plant to get Nikos and Toska to do business, and somehow Joel was going to profit off that (for such a long term commitment, I'd have to assume Joel was thinking about usurping Toska). But the obvious issue with that is how is a hairdresser in a position to organically set up a deal between two business men?

Perhaps she was meant to get close to the sisters to gain their trust? That would suggest that they're not in on the plan, but are nonetheless a crucial component of it.

 

[rebirth095]

My first assumption was that this is still the same plan that Seferi and Joel have been communicating about since the beginning of the comic, except that Seferi was forced to adapt to unforeseen circumstances and transform Joel against his will. Joel is now forced to continue cooperating with the plan, presumably to collect some big payout that he's been working toward for three years that he doesn't want to go to waste by walking away from Seferi. This plan must have also included feminizing Andrew (or at least benefitted from it), since they've been talking about moving Elena around like a chess piece and we now know that they know that Elena is Andrew (since Angeliki knows, and they've been working with her).


Toska was my first thought, but I suppose you have a point that they could be looking to seduce Nikos... again... Perhaps Elena isn't doing what they want, but Joelle would since "she" is actually in on the plan.


Perhaps she was meant to get close to the sisters to gain their trust? That would suggest that they're not in on the plan, but are nonetheless a crucial component of it.

That's where it's super weird to me: I can't figure out what the plan originally could have been. There's a few things that do seem to align:

- Joel puts up an act of being a meek guy in front of Toska. This makes perfect sense if this has been part of a plan to have Toska underestimate him for the long term plan of removing Toska from the picture and potentially taking over his empire.

- Joel's "prize" at the end of this could help explain Angeliki's willingness to also put up a front for three years. Although, it makes a bit less sense since apparently she's Joel's Ex. Yes, greed is a huge motivator, but if they broke up, you'd think there's some level of distrust between the two which might hamper them planning together?

- Toska being out of the picture is compatible with Seferi's motivations.

So with those pieces, we have a rough idea of what the original plan could have been and how it fell apart. Some speculation included on my part:

- Joel and Angeliki seed the idea of Toska and Nikos working on something together from their respective ends. (I find the Angeliki side far fetched, but it is a connection).

- It takes longer than expected (Toska is described as paranoid), so maybe what should have been 1 year gets stretched to 3.

- I wonder if Joanna was originally supposed to be part of this plan to seduce Nikos, and unexpectedly Nikos suddenly has a wife. Might even explain a few things like why she had plastic surgery (maybe make her look more appealing to Nikos), or even why she was there on the night of the Toska Nikos dinner.

- Thus, Elena gets incorporated into the plan, which involves luring Toska back a second time.

- So the common part that this plan revolves around is having Toska visit Greece twice. Seems like a simple reason is that you frame him for something from the first trip, and then have him arrested on the second. What's changed is how they're luring him back.

So your point that Joel is possibly seducing Nikos because we actually have a person in on the plan doing it does ring true to an extent. Their plan still requires Toska having a reason to come back to Greece.

 

[Jackjons]

I am feeling this one also going to a rush ending. In one chapter everything will reveal and then end !
After 1500 pages atleast 60-100 pages need to a happy ending, if Melissa planing to a happy end in just 10 pages that would be very unreasonable

 

[Thalantyr]

- I wonder if Joanna was originally supposed to be part of this plan to seduce Nikos, and unexpectedly Nikos suddenly has a wife. Might even explain a few things like why she had plastic surgery (maybe make her look more appealing to Nikos), or even why she was there on the night of the Toska Nikos dinner.

Oh, that's an interesting thought. Maybe part of Angeliki's role was to learn about Nikos' preferences, and Joanna is a trans woman (recently post-op when we first meet her) they hired for to seduce him. Although the "unexpectedly" doesn't quite fit, since Angeliki knew about Elena several days before the dinner (having helped transform him at the salon).

Unrelated to Joanna, the fact that Joel has been working with Angeliki much better explains how he was so easily able to play along with his glasses being broken and Elena not quite looking convincing as a woman despite his perfectly good eyesight. An older theory explained this as Nikos and Joel working together, but now it works even if Nikos is innocent.