VN Ren'Py Abandoned Midlife Crisis [v0.34 - v0.1 Dark] [Nefastus Games]

[Deleted member 5346100]

As of right now, I have no interest in your game simply because your game provides no kinks / genres I'm interested in so it'll never come up in my search.

Fair enough, my game was probably too vanilla to grow quickly.

You also shouldn't focus so much on the money making when developping a game

I would have happily not focused on money if I didn't have so many people who never gave me a dime complaining each release about the number of renders, the time it took for the new release, that favourite character who said or did this or that making the game now utter trash (it's called a character arc, but okay), not to mention the users who take precious time out of their day to announce that your game is not their kind of game and that they will never play it again like your forced them to sit down and play it, or that will ask you the same questions over and over that have been answered 20 times already.

So the trade off was bust your ass, get constantly criticized for a free game you poured your heart into, and make no money.

Not a great plan.

 

[turgsh01]

I would have happily not focused on money if I didn't have so many people who never gave me a dime complaining each release about the number of renders, the time it took for the new release, that favourite character who said or did this or that making the game now utter trash (it's called a character arc, but okay), not to mention the users who take precious time out of their day to announce that your game is not their kind of game and that they will never play it again like your forced them to sit down and play it, or that will ask you the same questions over and over that have been answered 20 times already.

So the trade off was bust your ass, get constantly criticized for a free game you poured your heart into, and make no money.

Not a great plan.

There's definitely a lot of loud mouth haters on this site and they're almost always the most vocal. The ones who like a game are often the quietest which makes the inspiration very difficult. I get that. I myself have a top 10 fav AVN list in my signature and yet I have yet to post in some of those threads letting the devs know I love their work so far. It is what it is. You have to accept the haters for what they are, if they're too much, then add them to ignore list so as not to kill your mood anymore but still be willing to keep a few of them around if they're providing productive feedback. It'd be nice if developers had the option to literally ban a user from their own thread, but I doubt this website would ever be coded that way.

 

[c3p0]

It'd be nice if developers had the option to literally ban a user from their own thread, but I doubt this website would ever be coded that way.

What could possible go wrong with that. Also, I understand that Nefs nonwhere here, but even then, shouldn't that thread actually be about his game?

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I would have happily not focused on money if I didn't have so many people who never gave me a dime complaining each release about the number of renders, the time it took for the new release, that favourite character who said or did this or that making the game now utter trash (it's called a character arc, but okay), not to mention the users who take precious time out of their day to announce that your game is not their kind of game and that they will never play it again like your forced them to sit down and play it, or that will ask you the same questions over and over that have been answered 20 times already.

So the trade off was bust your ass, get constantly criticized for a free game you poured your heart into, and make no money.

Not a great plan.

That's when you have to decide that it's either your passion project or not. Criticism is easy and people dish it out left and right without offerin constructive criticism. It's because a lot of players these days are young and if you're not givin them what they want on a silver platter, they throw tantrums. When that happens, you should just use the ignore button on them.

 

[turgsh01]

What could possible go wrong with that. Also, I understand that Nefs nonwhere here, but even then, shouldn't that thread actually be about his game?

Well, we can either have intellectual conversations about random things or we can go back to the annoying and mindless "Oh no, the game has an abandoned tag after only 3 months?". Or, we could also just have a moderator lock the topic and we all go our separate ways.

Which would you prefer?

Also, even if a dev were to abuse the ban hammer for their own thread... what would be the harm in that? It's their own thread. Abuse of that power in that only those willing to kiss the feet of the dev are allowed to post in that thread, it wouldn't benefit the dev in any way other than stroking their own ego, and the haters can still download the game and lurk in the thread. They can also still create a side thread discussing / hating on the game and the dev would have no say in it.

 

[c3p0]

Well, we can either have intellectual conversations about random things or we can go back to the annoying and mindless "Oh no, the game has an abandoned tag after only 3 months?".

Which would you prefer?

Neither. I can also talk about the weather, the state of my country, the bill I need to pay or whatever comes across my mind. Which would you prefer?
From my standpoint this thread is about Nef's game, neither about the prefixes, the rules, some other games, the weather or whatever came across my mind.

 

[White Lamp]

Haven’t followed in a while. Abandoned or really slow development?

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Haven’t followed in a while. Abandoned or really slow development?

At this point, your guess is as good as everyone else's. Apparently the horse has been poked several times and it's not movin. Not sure if they've checked it's pulse yet or not. Ahaha

 

[turgsh01]

Haven’t followed in a while. Abandoned or really slow development?

In this case, it just means 3 months of no contact. Status of game development is completely unknown as the dev is MIA.

 

[jaw1986baby]

Seriously

This game is only truly abandoned if Nef died or became terminally ill

But also there are rules about the tag
for consistency

Longer back there seemed to be inconsistency, But I see (in the threads I follow) the same time frames for any that ghost for a while.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

I do think that players are more hesitant to subscribe to new creators when the new game doesn't have a lot of content yet, that the market is saturated and that the big developers get most of the money. But who knows, maybe I was just unlucky or my game was too niche or I didn't churn out content fast enough to maintain interest, or it's something else entirely...

That's the real issue imo. There's a real bad fallacy that just because a game's well established it won't be abandoned so they only want to support successful projects to not waste their money. Ignoring that lots of well established games go on year+ long hiatuses where the dev's still collecting patreon money. I'd rather rely on leaks for big projects and support smaller less established ones so they don't get abandoned. One of the games on my signature almost got abandoned because the dev made it their full time job too quickly while still in school and was making less than their cost of living. Game's massively better than literally any game on here that makes 10k+ a month but it was fighting to just survive.

 

[Grif1001]

That's the real issue imo. There's a real bad fallacy that just because a game's well established it won't be abandoned so they only want to support successful projects to not waste their money. Ignoring that lots of well established games go on year+ long hiatuses where the dev's still collecting patreon money. I'd rather rely on leaks for big projects and support smaller less established ones so they don't get abandoned. One of the games on my signature almost got abandoned because the dev made it their full time job too quickly while still in school and was making less than their cost of living. Game's massively better than literally any game on here that makes 10k+ a month but it was fighting to just survive.

I can't wait till the day that I can do this full time and speed up my output!

 

[possum1]

huh. ngl, i'm actually surprised this got abandoned

 

[lemonfreak]

huh. ngl, i'm actually surprised this got abandoned

Dude, check the site rules re: prefix tags or even just read the same page your own post is on

 

[possum1]

Dude, check the site rules re: prefix tags or even just read the same page your own post is on

that amount of time of radio silence does count as abandoned to me. whats your problem?

 

[lemonfreak]

that amount of time of radio silence does count as abandoned to me. whats your problem?

There is no way to distinguish between abandonment due to ghosting or legitimate abandonment (I've asked for it), you've been on this site for nearly 6 years so should know that by now

My problem, far from unique to me, is seeing people refuse to look up answers for themselves and expecting others to do it for them. You're an adult, you should know how search works

 

[possum1]

There is no way to distinguish between abandonment due to ghosting or legitimate abandonment (I've asked for it), you've been on this site for nearly 6 years so should know that by now

My problem, far from unique to me, is seeing people refuse to look up answers for themselves and expecting others to do it for them. You're an adult, you should know how search works

whether it's abandoned for ghosting or officially abandoned through a statement, it's still abandoned. i dont believe i needed any more info than what i had.
what puzzles me though, is you taking my general uncommitted statement of surprise as some kind of personal attack.

 

[lemonfreak]

whether it's abandoned for ghosting or officially abandoned through a statement, it's still abandoned. i dont believe i needed any more info than what i had.
what puzzles me though, is you taking my general uncommitted statement of surprise as some kind of personal attack.

Yes, that's my point, nobody knows so there's no point in asking. Maybe Nef has decided to give up on MLC, maybe he's having writer's block and is too ashamed to say anything after promising v0.35 was nearly ready or maybe he's having more health issues (a heart problem saw hospitalised a couple of years ago meaning he was radio silent for several months and almost earned the abandoned prefix then

The point, again, is that he hasn't said anything so we nobody knows and all this conversation is doing is creating alerts that give others false hope hence I'm unwatching the thread for a while (I also left his discord for that reason)

 

[Lukereds]

It was a good game with a lot of point of view

 

[Eisbaerle]

I hope Nefastus will return.. I liked this game very much