armion82

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It's possible they simply overextended themselves. Trying to do too much at once and with pressure for the second release mounting. Also going by Dr Sins last post they even pulled one of the Subsystems (concerning objectives) out again, shortly before release because it wasn't finished. So I would not discount the possibility that we're facing more of a Project Management issue. Pity too - the animations and renders are amazing in my opinion and I still hope they'll get Things Right with the next release.
No idea how they menage to mess so much.We are talking for this game being on Unity from what?1 year?,more?Something like after the release of DOD ep.10.That's a huge amount of time to set the things right.Don't forget that in DOD he try to use almost same HUD and pretty much fail each time.Why still insist to put something like that?
Milfy City or F.I.L.F. or even Au-Pair Innocence and BB interface will be more than enough and will work better.
 

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Most of the scenes, lewd ones, cut off at the end.
Is that part of the buggy mess or just the way it is for now?
 

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I also questioned a complete walkthrough of the scene. Downloaded a CG RIP. And I saw that the scene and end. Just the game is not technically debugged. It is strange that the author has laid out such crude product.
 
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You could educate them, rather than expressing disbelief. But you already know what he's saying (poorly). Ren'py was built for VNs expressly. Unity has a handful of VN development environments that all completely and utterly suck at producing an end product without comprehensively altering their results via coding.

Perhaps the best implementation of a sandbox style VN is Faerin's thing, which has gone though multiple re-writes just to get to the point where he's got something that is extremely nimble, yet still has saves in a phone interface with unlabeled up and down arrows, which highlights what may as well be an unavoidable pitfall with using Unity as a VN platform. Just having story, render and code dudes aren't even enough. You should probably have someone who knows UI design as well, as Ren'py Tom didn't make Unity, so it isn't ready from go for what has become a VN standard look and feel most people who plays these things want.
THIS!

Don't you people get it? He can't switch to Ren'py, because his coders even don't know how to code in Ren'Py!

This is one of the reasons why he use Adventure Creator in Unity. Because you don't need coding skills.
As a professional C++/Python developer (if you have a smartphone, you're using stuff that's been built with stuff with my code in it), if I were to write a VN I'd do it in Ren'Py. If I were to write a sandbox I'd do it in Ren'Py. If I were to write an RPG, I'd do it in Unity.

I don't want to have to compile C# to make my VN do stuff. I want to use the easy scripted product expressly developed for VNs.

"But it's too late to switch, and he's invested in Unity" - bullshit. He did DoD in Ren'Py; he can do MP in Ren'Py. If he had done that from the start, he would have avoided most of the pitfalls he's fallen into. Everything but the douchy rapey MC. He's taking this month to fix 0.2. I don't think a switch to Ren'Py would take more than that, and he'd have so many of the problems solved for free.

And I bet MotH could be redone in Ren'Py in a couple months, and we'd avoid all the wine and other support issues we're always dealing with in the support thread.
 

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I was about to ask if the game only seems kind of buggy to me (it often skips like 2 or 3 parts of a dialogue and such), but it seems like there are a lot more problems under the surface than just that.
I only progressed until MC wakes up in his dungeon, but so far I'm not impressed with this game. It's not a desaster, but the constant skips and sloppy writing compared to DoD isn't good.
 
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Guys, what is in this post?


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Courtesy of jande21

Hey everyone,

So with Midnight Paradise 0.2 release today to Elite tier, and 3 days later to everyone else, I have come to a decision based on a number of different things.
As you probably know, I've been going through some rough times lately and haven't been able to fully focus on creating the best game I possibly can for you.
About one and a half weeks ago I found my motivation again, just to be plunged back into chaos by the current state of the game.
I am dissatisfied.
There are many things that should be in place by now, and they are not. Some of it is my fault and some are the fault of my team members'.
Honestly, I feel like I'm being let down and in turn I feel like I'm letting you guys down.
And this doesn't feel right at all.
I also couldn't meet deadlines this year. I truly feel ashamed of this. If you've been following me since the start of DoD, you know I always delivered on time, even by the minute on most occasions.
Now I'm planning a smaller update content-wise in May, with all the core features that are needed for a polished game.
I feel like the 0.3 release in May will be what this release should be.
I also couldn't deliver a release in March. I really feel bad about these things and it's been eating at me for a while now.
Due to these reasons, I'm pausing my campaign for the next cycle, meaning none of the current Patrons will be charged on May 1st. Essentially it means you'll be getting the 0.3 release next month for free.
Please note though, I'm not taking a break. This isn't about that. I will still be working, harder than I've managed recently, and the 0.3 release is still coming in May.
However, I couldn't keep my promises to you lately and I feel like I don't deserve your hard-earned money until I set this straight.
You don't have to do anything with your pledges, no need to edit them, Patreon simply won't charge on the 1st and that's it.

Thank you for the kind words and support.
-Dr Sin
(thx Donor!)
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"But it's too late to switch, and he's invested in Unity" - bullshit. He did DoD in Ren'Py; he can do MP in Ren'Py. If he had done that from the start, he would have avoided most of the pitfalls he's fallen into.
Maybe he switched coders after he finished DoD? :unsure: (Speculation!)

Did he/they not struggled to add a stat. system back in DoD (a different one, which he did not add into DoD)? I always thought this was one of the reasons, why he rushed DoD.
 

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Not convinced :/
I'll wait for the final version of the game and then try it again.
p.s. The animated scenes are pretty buggy, and after a few seconds, it just stops moving, is that a common problem, or due to my old Laptop, not really beeing capable for the game? (I never had this problem before with other adult games)
 
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(Please note though, I'm not taking a break. This is not about that. I will still be working, harder than I've managed recently, and the 0.3 release is still coming in May.In short, we will have to wait until the end of May ..)

In the worst of scenarios .. the same standard, again a veteran team ..(I hope I'm wrong and Dr. Sin not disappoint the fans!!)

(Due to these reasons, I am pausing my campaign for the next cycle, meaning none of the current Patrons will be charged on May 1st. Essentially it means you'll be getting the 0.3 release next month for free.)

I would like it to continue receiving, it was another guarantee that next month everything would be resolved ..
In the meantime, there have been new games that deserve attention and support (from the technical point of view ;))
 
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Hi Guys :D

I'm stuck after the "sleeping pills" part with Ruby not showing in the kitchen on afternoon nor any time ...
I guess it's a bug so does anyone have a clue or a save (with IC Patch) right after Ruby's kitchen talk to get forward ?

Thanks! :D
 

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Hi Guys :D

I'm stuck after the "sleeping pills" part with Ruby not showing in the kitchen on afternoon nor any time ...
I guess it's a bug so does anyone have a clue or a save right after Ruby's kitchen talk to get forward ?

Thanks! :D
Ruby should be always in the kitchen in the afternoons. So probably a bug.

Some events don't seem to trigger if you are in the room when you skip the time, maybe try changing rooms.
 

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And I bet MotH could be redone in Ren'Py in a couple months, and we'd avoid all the wine and other support issues we're always dealing with in the support thread.
I think it all boils down to mindset. If someone is hellbent on something then stuff like convenience, reason, reality become like distant relatives. They wish to keep you company while you wish to keep the distance.
 
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