Man that's hilariousYup...
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Majority of the paying supporters were against it...
I get shit for being paranoid about it in these threads... The reality is ANY creator can switch up on their supporters if they truly wanted... That is why I am really careful of which games I support now.
For sure. Including ntr content is not a sure way to financial success. But it is certainly not a kiss of death as the anti-ntr crowd would have you believe.I don't really care about this whole NTR / anti-NTR fight but I was still curious about how the whole situation would turns out on the "financial side" as your comment about who really pay for the game made me wonder.
The very first public update including NTR was released on the 29th of June.
It's funny to see that, at the same time, the number of patrons has skyrocketted.
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Of course the game was already on an upward trend at the time, and I'm sure that regular updates made by Texic did most of the job, but what is certain is that there has been no drop in the number of patrons.
So yes, this case seems to show that the most vocal individuals have no financial impact on the whole project.
Then you should make NTR inevitable in your game...and this Dev should do it too...then let's see...i'm curious. If NTR brings more money why don't you make NTR inevitable...hahaha.For sure. Including ntr content is not a sure way to financial success. But it is certainly not a kiss of death as the anti-ntr crowd would have you believe.
Hmmm.... here is a bit of an info dump...Then you should make NTR inevitable in your game...and this Dev should do it too...then let's see...i'm curious. If NTR brings more money why don't you make NTR inevitable...hahaha.
Then you should make NTR inevitable in your game...and this Dev should do it too...then let's see...i'm curious. If NTR brings more money why don't you make NTR inevitable...hahaha.
Then point proved. Even "inevitable" NTR doesn't kill a game or the finacial support to the creatorHmmm.... here is a bit of an info dump...
Netorare is "inevitable" in that AVN.... For goodness sake the creator alluded to a major netorare ending in that thread... next he has the audacity to state it as "avoidable".... Any user with a clear set of vision should view that as false advertising....
Then point proved. Even "inevitable" NTR doesn't kill a game or the finacial support to the creator
Not, we are not. Llama post talk about add ntr not be a death sentence for games/devs. Then a user posted replying to Llama in a ironic/challenging tone that if it's true then he should make "invevitable" ntr. Then YOU reply to that post of that user "dump a info" that ntr in his game is inevitable. Which end up unintentionally proving the point of Llama about ntr that the other use questioned.View attachment 2831368
You are failing to understand the point being made...
The thread we are currently discussing in is about a AVN that was advertised to have NO netorare content... Texic, the creator reassured his backers on numerous instances that this would stick... It DID NOT STICK...
That other AVN is advertised as having "avoidable netorare".... and that lures in the crowd who dislikes netorare being in the state of mind that this content will not appear if they click the large "no" button... In actuality the protagonist gets his women taken continuously without YOU having any control over the decisions....
We are not discussion what is better for financial gain... We are discussion clear acts of FALSE ADVERTISING with both of these VN's...
Be tender... spit on the plate that feeds you...Texic I have not had a chance to play you game yet. But i noticed you are dealing with some of the same problems on here that i did when i first started. I want to offer some advice, feel free it ignore it.
1. You do not need to declare tags for everything you might/ever/could add to your game. the people demanding this are dumb and worth ignoring. the creative process is fluid.
2. The anti-NTR crowd is the vast minority of the paying supporters. my polls found about 1% would stop supporting if "optional, labelled NTR was introduced". and they are a vocal and annoying minority here too.
Personally, I enjoying telling these people to fuck off, and it hasn't hurt me at all. so do your thing. good luck!
edit: the ones who facepalm this message are the ones I’m talking about. They will never spend a dime supporting anyway
All I stated is he was lying to the backers as well... That AVN's netorare path is and has been inevitable... One major problem... He advertises the game as "avoidable".... Flat out lie...Not, we are not. Llama post talk about add ntr not be a death sentence for games/devs. Then a user posted replying to Llama in a ironic/challenging tone that if it's true then he should make "invevitable" ntr. Then YOU reply to that post of that user "dump a info" that ntr in his game is inevitable. Which end up unintentionally proving the point of Llama about ntr that the other use questioned.
Pay attention to what you are replying and the conversations you are getting into it before come with this "yOu ArE mISiNg tHe PoINt" excuse.
All i do was point out that you saying the ntr is inevitable in Llamas game at the beggining of your post proved the point Llamma made. That is it. Plain and simple. And the "excuse" i talked was you saying i missed the point (which i'm not) not everything that you said (wow, look how missed the point now)All I stated is he was lying to the backers as well... That AVN's netorare path is and has been inevitable... One major problem... He advertises the game as "avoidable".... Flat out lie...
Those two creators have been lying to their audiences and now roll over reacting as if they did no wrong when the masses are reasonably upset...
Mine as well go all the way... it has been going in that direction because a few "commissions" creep on in, sell your soul for quick buck method.... For goodness sake just quit promoting it falsely if they continue with that direction... It is a poor attempt to please everyone...
This is amusing that you have not tried to properly counter my arguments of creators false advertising.... Nope... You got emotional about that and round everything I say as an "excuse"... Apple does not fall far from the tree....
Lookie here... Another comment entirely ignoring my argument... Because that is the reoccurring theme with these responses, you know I'm right that these two conned their audiences and deep down it is eating you up... This is the cause of you attempting to derail the conversation towards a separate direction...All i do was point out that you saying the ntr is inevitable in Llamas game at the beggining of your post proved the point Llamma made. That is it. Plain and simple. And the "excuse" i talked was you saying i missed the point (which i'm not) not everything that you said (wow, look how missed the point now)
except the number of patreons and the earnings continued to rise after the ntrMan that's hilarious. He really said to Think about "it" before voting and when nobody voted for it, he just said "fuck you! I ma gonna add it anyway" (not literally of course), anyway, no doubt ntr fans might have started storming his patreon after this, they found their Dev.
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