jamdan

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I believe him about the mental health problems, so i'm not going to accuse him of lying about that. but I don't believe it when it comes to the release dates, if he has mental health problems he shouldn't set a release date. If he misses them, it'll just hurt his mental health more. now, I don't think he is intentionally lying about that, he probably thinks he can do it, but he should know by now to not set unrealistic expectations.
 

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The title for this thread should probably be changed from "Milfy City" to "Opinions and arguments about mental health", since that's the only thing anyone is going to talk about here for the next week.


"As with most mental health medications the first one doesn't always work - so I have needed to experiment to find the right one. Thankfully, last month I began a new medication which seems to be working for me", Icstor said.

Absolutely no serious psychiatrist would "experiment" with different treatments on a patient. ... But that does not entail merely switching the pills. If he is in fact doing something like that and thinks it is going to help him, I really hope that someone can convince him otherwise. It's not that simple, and what's worse, it is fucking dangerous.
Sorry, but you are insanely misinformed. What ICSTOR is doing isn't the thing that is dangerous, you spreading misinformation is. Trying different anti-depressant medications if one doesn't seem effective is absolutely normal and recommended. There are , , , , and more and they all work in different ways.

If the first medication tried doesn't seems effective a psychiatrist doesn't just say, "oh shit well i guess there's nothing that can be done, a random guy on the internet said trying different medications was spooky so i guess you're fucked."
 

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The title for this thread should probably be changed from "Milfy City" to "Opinions and arguments about mental health", since that's the only thing anyone is going to talk about here for the next week.



Sorry, but you are insanely misinformed. What ICSTOR is doing isn't the thing that is dangerous, you spreading misinformation is. Trying different anti-depressant medications if one doesn't seem effective is absolutely normal and recommended. There are , , , , and more and they all work in different ways.

If the first medication tried doesn't seems effective a psychiatrist doesn't just say, "oh shit well i guess there's nothing that can be done, a random guy on the internet said trying different medications was spooky so i guess you're fucked."
Sorry, before saying someone is spreading misinformation, you should at least make sure that you understand what you have read, which in this case you clearly didn't. No treatment should be taken WITHOUT the proper diagnose, surveillance and control by a professional, in this case a psychiatrist. This is what I'm saying.

And no, sorry, treatments are not changed on a whim. A treatment is prescribed after carefully taking into account the patient's symptoms and following a clearly-stated procedure. It is truth that the meds prescribed might not work as expected, but it takes time to see if that's the case. After that, the very first thing is trying to see whether it might be better adjusting the dose. After going through all that, the psych might be willing to try something different. But no one should be encouraged to change his/her treatment on his/her own. And, seriously, it is incredible that this has even to be said.

Nothing of that is remotely similar to what Icstor described as "experimenting" with different meds to see what might do the trick. Furthermore, my point is that treating a mental issue, such as depression or anxiety, is not just a matter of taking meds. Meds mainly treat/soothe the symptoms. As I said, biological and social factors play a role in triggering something like depression or anxiety; if you do not work on that, meds are only, at best, a temporal solution. Only some of the most serious conditions (like major depression disorder) might entail long (perhaps life-long) treatments that, again, are far more complex than simply finding the pill that does the trick.

EDIT: One possibility I have to admit is that I might have taken his "experiment" bit a little too literally. Maybe it's just a figure of speech, and the guy is actually following his/her doctor's instructions to the letter. But my comment was made on the basis of him trying different shit to see if something works out. The thing is, I have seen people do that (I don't know where Icstor lives, but in my country there are ways to access medically prescribed meds quite easily), and the results are... well, not good. In any case, assuming everything is true, I hope whatever he does works out.
 
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It seems that nowadays more and more content creators suffer from "mental health issues". I don't k ow if it's internet's fault, or society, or that our geberation just can't deal with shit today, because we are so weak...
It's easier to say I have mental issues instead of being honest and saying I'm going to take your money and give you nothing back in return.
 

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It's easier to say I have mental issues instead of being honest and saying I'm going to take your money and give you nothing back in return.
This is not scamdrop thread :sneaky:
'nothing in return' Didn't you played 0.6 ?

Inb4, I'm not a patreon and I know we're still waiting for the animations.
Wait & see I guess.
Go play Jedi Fallen Order, it's awesome :LOL:
 
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Now we get mental illness shoved down our throat as the "real" reason for his performance. I guess those people don't remember his posts trolling his detractors.

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If you say that you don't buy it you get the Greta defense. You can't attack her right?

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Seems like he was saving this one for the right time to use. Most likely what's going to happen is in the final week we are going to hear something then we'll have to wait till December for the full release. As for the trolling a couple months ago, you can't troll people for being mad at you for not holding yourself accountable then try to play the victim card later. This whole thing just seems like him buttering up people for the next excuse since he doesn't seem to have the backbone to admit he fucked up. Hell he might be telling the truth but if that's the case then that's something he should have been came forward about.
 

jamdan

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Boom this right here

Can people really defend him at this point?
He is self-employed, so like anyone else who is self-employed he needs to keep himself motivated. If his mental health is poor, he can't do that so he stops working. Now, I've seen people comment about the money he makes, as if making money means you can't be depressed. That just isn't true, plenty of people that have way more money than he does are depressed or worse.

Now, I understand people not liking him but when it comes to mental health I think you owe people the benefit of the doubt, whether you like them or not. Nobody really knows how someone else feels.

You can have both views of 1) He has poor mental health which he should get help for and 2) He needs to be more transparent and not set deadlines he can't keep etc.
 
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