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I did notice her when the whole Staff meet the MC. But Idk I was thinking someone a bit darker, She look a bit more Latina to me.
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Nice models & scenes BUT the lack of choice means may as well for wait for a gallery mod in later versions.
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You do realize that a story can be interesting even without choices right, say like a book?
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(Don't remind them about Choose-Your-Own-Adventure books.)
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Yepp, just one long NTR/Sharing fuckfest with women your Uncle has already fucked hundreds of times!
Or you know, play the game to find out what is happening.....
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Oh, whoops.... Sorry about that, I should have read your
other post a bit closer, but was buzzing through several and
sucking down my morning coffee....
I do like the game so far.
Pretty ladies, and fairly peaceful atm.
Would like more choices as well mainly because I don't
like KN's... so the more the merrier.
Cheers
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Now a lot of board games are going into game-books type of gaming.
Tainted Grail,Etherfields,Chronicles of Drunagor,Arena the Contest/Tanares Adventures,Middara,Oathsworn,Stormsunder,Dawn of Madness.
Totally agree, but then this would be an AVN and not a game.
With AVN you can distance yourself a bit and just go along with it, including all the moments you'd disagree with, LI's you dislike, because YOU aren't playing, you're just watching.
But when you're asked to name the MC you're invested. Shown options? Now YOU are deciding the story somewhat. Then when it turns out the options are meaningless and you've no actual choice? Let down.
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I feel completely differently than you about this. I don't ever use my own name in any game that lets me rename a character. I usually use a default, and if I'm not able to, I choose some random name that isn't my own and then play. I'm never so immersed that I feel like I personally am actually experiencing the events of the story. It's like reading a book for me: I can feel badly for characters and experience emotions during events or whatever, but at no point am I ever under any feeling that I am actually in the story.
That's also why I dislike what I feel is a forced distinction between AVN and game that people make. There are definitely differences between VNs and games. For others it's clearly different, but being able to name the character you play is one of the most minimal IMO and has practically no effect to me. I don't think this should be a major point of distinction. After all, they are visual novels, not TRON or something. And many games (ARK, WoW, etc.) allow you to pick your own name. At no point when playing those do I think that I'm the one actually experiencing events. But again, this is just my own perspective.
Maybe a bit of a misunderstanding but I never use my own name in any game, adult or otherwise. When I play a game that asks for name and apparently givens you choices then that's a role, that's a character you steer. Literally a role playing game.
If a game says "This is Gary, watch as he fucks ALL the horrible bitches in his college" then that's fine for what it is but if a game says "What do you think of this? Like or don't? Be mean or nice?" and then has the same result? It's pretending to be one thing whilst being another.
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Ah, I see. Still, for me making the choices isn't any different from reading a book or watching a film where a character acts a certain way and experiences things. I'm sad if they're sad, angry if they're angry, etc., sure. But I never get so connected with them that it makes the experience too difficult for me to continue. But like I said, no shade at how anyone else experiences entertainment: I don't expect anyone else to experience things the way I do.
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It's Arabic word, and master of house is man in Arabic society, especially in Islamic context. Anyway, word Harem in European languages, have something different meaning. It means situation where rich and powerful man has multiple wives and concubines (lesser wives). It was, by analogy with Ottoman Sultan, applied to non-Islamic rulers, like Chinese Emperors, Korean Kings etc. Essentially its synonymous with polyginy (single man is husband to multiple wives).
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I'm not saying you are wrong about the predominant usage. Nevertheless. The word "harim" means a room where female servants, concubines and/or wives and eunuchs (castrated males) are quartered - nothing more, nothing less. The word for the occupants themselves is "harimi". It literally means the people who live in a "harim".
The harem's origins date back to the Assyrian and Babylonian empires and therefore predate "Arabic society". In pre-Islamic Assyria, Persia, and Egypt harems also, often, included eunuchs. There are, in fact, a number of examples of female-owned harems, referred to as a female harem or seraglios. Cleopatra was a prime example.
I point all of this out simply because I believe that when a person says something "can't be this" or "can't be that" - they should know what they are talking about.
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Yes, and those were also rigid patriarchal societies, similar to Islamic-Arabic ones, which replaced them.
Seraglio is literally name of Ottoman Sultan's palace in Italian. Later, it was used as synonym for his harem, or any large harem.
Eunuch's were always parts of courts, and harems. Even Christian states had powerful eunuch ministers (Norman Sicily, Eastern Roman/Byzantine Empire). They were trusted because they couldn't form family and hence dynasty. When it comes to harems, they were there for two functions, first to personally attend master of house, and to do hard work. Since they were castrated, master of house didn't feel treathened.
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All good points. You are obviously quite knowledgeable on the subject of harems. All of this, btw, supports my point. For example, when someone demands that a harem member can't possibly be a lesbian - I say, they should look the word up before making erroneous claims. That's what "wordbenders" do - make up meanings. Say it often, say it loud, make it true. That's their motto. I take exception.
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Woman in harem could be lesbian. At least situational, something like in modern prisons. Rulers first and foremost had obligations to official wives, and then to their favourites. Most of sexual attention went towards that two categories of women, so some found sexual release in playing with each other. Did they saw themselves as lesbian? most probably not, but it's to wide topic anyway. Suffice to say, you are right. There are lesbians in harems (and I mean in classical meaning of it, one rich man with multiple wives).
On other hand, I partially understand complaints that trope with bunch of lustful bisexual women attached to male MC and eachother is tad bit overused in porn games. Developers need to be careful with using it, like any other trope.
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Of course. Again you made excellent points. Still, for me, there isn't an excuse for continuous rants about lesbian or bisexual behavior the instant it appears in a story. For that matter, if a dev wants to write about a true harem with a eunuch who is sweet on one (or more) of the servant girls, there shouldn't be an instant cacophony asserting the sin of NTR. Heaven forbid (well... actually, it might) there could be gay eunuchs in a harem as well. I'm sure you understand. Kink shaming is another of my pet peeves. Jus' sayin'.
I will just add - it has been nice discussing with someone who reasons and comments, rather than rants and declares that theirs is the only right way.