RPGM Completed Mirage's Defection [v1.04] [chimaLABO]

[sirviper235]

Considering the final scene with Iviel has her being unable to resist due to the curse and is only able to snap out of it thanks to Leo, I'd say she became somewhat corrupted. We know the protagonist from the first game did give in a little because of the image we see in this game, so I believe the developer wants the characters to be canonically corrupted to a certain extent. Maybe in future games the content will scalate to reflect the characters becoming more and more corrupted, but it's hard to say. In Luna's case her corruption has been reset since Iviel is dead and his curse no longer affects her, maybe there are some lingering effects but without a sequel we can't be certain. We would need another recurring antagonist like Sadi for the corruption to carry over and grow over multiple games. I would prefer if the developer doesn't use Sadi as the only male villain, having a different rival for each group would be better since they could be tailored to exploit the different heroines better. Clearly low level grunts aren't a good fit for Luna so maybe some other bigshot from the demon army will be introduced in the future. I wonder if all the antagonists will work for the demon king or if the human side will cause trouble too, we've already seen in this game that they're no saints either.

I agree with what you said. Honestly, if you ask me the type of antagonist that would work really well with Luna. Is a master manipulator. Type.

Who instead of trying to seduce her or bring her over to his side, is instead of trying to steal feelings of doubt in her mind and heart that she’s even good enough for Leo and attempts to rig situations where Leo is incentivize to make choices to not call on Luna or actively decide against her in favor of someone else, leaving her, feeling insecure and scared that he’s going to leave her.

That would honestly be the best direction for her and I would actually be very interested in playing a game with a story like that.

The game did seem to mildly be setting up this kind of direction too. With how she somewhat babies Leo and treat him like a boy that she has to take care of over a man she is in love with. This could’ve been really interesting, but it’s kind of dropped.

Kurone somewhat treats, Leo, as if he’s an adult and that clearly appeals to him. But again, it’s never really used in ways it could be.

For the next game, at least they are keeping Luna away from NTR stuff which does make sense because they after how messy mirage was….yeah.. you’re gonna need some time to figure out what to do with her lol.

But all in all well spoken.

The only minor gripe I think I have is that..Sadi isn’t really a good villain for Luna and Leo.

He’s way too weak. He’s pretty much all bark and very little bite.

When he actually had to fight head on he got his ass, handed to him incredibly quickly. By hayato and Celia who aren’t even strong. They just have the potential to become very strong. Both of them pretty much only have basic training. And have a lot to learn, but they were able to pretty easily beat him and force him to retreat.

Luna is way higher level, way more experienced, and hard counters, his magic with the mirage and does it have things to be exploited.

If she met him, she would kill him easily. Because he does not stand a chance against her.

 

[star12341]

Not to denigrate from this, it's true Iveru wasn't capable but the way I remember it he kinda got lucky. Part of the plot of the game is not only Luna's devotion & loyalty towards the MC but also her guilt that also stems from that loyalty & devotion.

Iveru should have gotten killed the moment he met Luna - but he (truthfully) had placed a dangerous curse on the MC. Luna could have dispelled it instantly but she was worried it might result in him having his sealed memories return.

Iveru's power are also clearly not weak - his power to corrupt is clearly powerful and as I commented at some point. I think his powers scale based on how much love the person he is corrupting has for someone else as what he does is effectively replace that person in the target's heart.

So, I personally thought this all worked rather well all things considered.

I agree that it would had been better had the default been Luna gets corrupted unless you interfered but that as it is written it doesn't make sense that that is what happens - specially because all we do is watch and don't actually help Luna in anyway.

 

[Sakarith]

I NEED more games like this, this is a masterpiece and I love hypnosis

 

[Neo-V]

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[Telolet]

If its doesn't concern with luna's ntr route, who is that gonna be? Hayato's brother? Celia ascendant? Or maybe the demon lord?

If its have, maybe it's ivieru? Well the writer can take resurrection or evolution plot though.

 

[Talos64]

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If its doesn't concern with luna's ntr route, who is that gonna be? Hayato's brother? Celia ascendant? Or maybe the demon lord?

If its have, maybe it's ivieru? Well the writer can take resurrection or evolution plot though.

Considering that the first half talks about Luna being corrupted, I assume the whole message is about the direction Luna's corruption will take in future games. I mentioned in a previous post that Luna's corruption had been reset after Iviel's death and wondered if they would introduce a new antagonist for her that could appear over multiple games so that the corruption would scalate as the series progresses. After reading this message it feels like Iviel will exist as a kind of inner voice for Luna, a kind of devil on her shoulder tempting her to forget her mission and indulge in pleasure. Wether it's the actual Iviel speaking from the afterlife or Luna's subconcious affected by the events of this game is hard to say at this point. I kind of like the idea of Luna having twisted impulses and a desire for pleasure that she must contain and fight against and since Iviel is the one who awakened those impulses it would make sense that they manifest as him in Luna's mind. Some people have complained that Iviel was a bad match for Luna because she's too strong to succumb to simple tricks so making it an internal struggle against herself could work. She isn't being manipulated anymore, a part of her wants to fall and indulge. The tricks and temptations that wouldn't normally work on her are more effective now because she has a reason to accept, which is what was lacking in this game. Why would she give in to a demand that doesn't help Leo or the cause? Because she wants it, she enjoys it now.

I'm hoping that is the direction the developer takes with Luna and makes it more about Leo saving her from herself. Kind of like a drug addict going through rehabilitation. She wouldn't just sell her friends in exchange for pleasure but the more she indulges, the more addicted she becomes to pleasure and that could lead her to do things that she wouldn't normally do. I think this direction makes sense for the series as it allows for things to scalate between games instead of repeating the same cycle over and over again. In Sadi's case he's already corrupted Celia to an extent so the next time they cross paths things will probably progress faster than in the first game.

 

[star12341]

Did we have an ETA for the next one?

 

[Sir Weshmish]

So will the next game have Luna erotic content or is it mainly on those two main characters?

 

[Telolet]

Considering that the first half talks about Luna being corrupted, I assume the whole message is about the direction Luna's corruption will take in future games. I mentioned in a previous post that Luna's corruption had been reset after Iviel's death and wondered if they would introduce a new antagonist for her that could appear over multiple games so that the corruption would scalate as the series progresses. After reading this message it feels like Iviel will exist as a kind of inner voice for Luna, a kind of devil on her shoulder tempting her to forget her mission and indulge in pleasure. Wether it's the actual Iviel speaking from the afterlife or Luna's subconcious affected by the events of this game is hard to say at this point. I kind of like the idea of Luna having twisted impulses and a desire for pleasure that she must contain and fight against and since Iviel is the one who awakened those impulses it would make sense that they manifest as him in Luna's mind. Some people have complained that Iviel was a bad match for Luna because she's too strong to succumb to simple tricks so making it an internal struggle against herself could work. She isn't being manipulated anymore, a part of her wants to fall and indulge. The tricks and temptations that wouldn't normally work on her are more effective now because she has a reason to accept, which is what was lacking in this game. Why would she give in to a demand that doesn't help Leo or the cause? Because she wants it, she enjoys it now.

I'm hoping that is the direction the developer takes with Luna and makes it more about Leo saving her from herself. Kind of like a drug addict going through rehabilitation. She wouldn't just sell her friends in exchange for pleasure but the more she indulges, the more addicted she becomes to pleasure and that could lead her to do things that she wouldn't normally do. I think this direction makes sense for the series as it allows for things to scalate between games instead of repeating the same cycle over and over again. In Sadi's case he's already corrupted Celia to an extent so the next time they cross paths things will probably progress faster than in the first game.

I see, so it's like route before leo find luna and iveru secret is ntr route. That's gonna make .

But ivieru as luna's mind, huh. Personally, i want him to make comeback. But your opinion is also great and make sense since the writer said the influence is from dead person and ivieru died doesn't left any single trace (except if the writer want to take resurrection plot).

Since leo's father's body is taken by the government and they examinated it, i feel there's something wrong with them and wonder how leo gonna face them. I guess luna will pick up Leo first and ntr story will goona be there. But yeah, we need to see how mini crypt end first.

 

[Telolet]

Did we have an ETA for the next one?

ETA? What's that?

 

[Telolet]

So will the next game have Luna erotic content or is it mainly on those two main characters?

Maybe no(?), maybe just teasing hayato

 

[star12341]

ETA? What's that?

"Estimated Time of Arrival"

 

[Talos64]

I see, so it's like route before leo find luna and iveru secret is ntr route. That's gonna make .

But ivieru as luna's mind, huh. Personally, i want him to make comeback. But your opinion is also great and make sense since the writer said the influence is from dead person and ivieru died doesn't left any single trace (except if the writer want to take resurrection plot).

Since leo's father's body is taken by the government and they examinated it, i feel there's something wrong with them and wonder how leo gonna face them. I guess luna will pick up Leo first and ntr story will goona be there. But yeah, we need to see how mini crypt end first.

The reason I don't think Iviel is coming back to live is the message hinting that the character that will have influence is dead and compares it to Leo's father. Leo's father only appears in dreams and visions so a resurrection route is unlikely. Another reason why Iviel is a strong possibility is that the developer said she won't be seduced by a character from Valiente and then mentions the possibility of dead characters having influence. Unless this is a misstranslation the message feels focused on Luna's corruption and not on any other character. Since mini crypt will work as an interlude to set up the next part of the story it makes sense that the developer could use it to introduce Luna's situation so the next game she appears in can go straight to the point. Basically my theory is that Luna won't have any NTR content in the game but the influence Iviel has over her will be introduced or hinted at.

About the whole situation with Leo's father's body, it makes me think that Leo and Luna will face off against the human side while Celia and Hayato go after the demon king. That way the two groups wouldn't join forces just yet and the developer would be able to focus on one cast at a time. As for the role of the third protagonist we'll have to wait for the third game to find out more.

 

[Telolet]

The reason I don't think Iviel is coming back to live is the message hinting that the character that will have influence is dead and compares it to Leo's father. Leo's father only appears in dreams and visions so a resurrection route is unlikely. Another reason why Iviel is a strong possibility is that the developer said she won't be seduced by a character from Valiente and then mentions the possibility of dead characters having influence. Unless this is a misstranslation the message feels focused on Luna's corruption and not on any other character. Since mini crypt will work as an interlude to set up the next part of the story it makes sense that the developer could use it to introduce Luna's situation so the next game she appears in can go straight to the point. Basically my theory is that Luna won't have any NTR content in the game but the influence Iviel has over her will be introduced or hinted at.

About the whole situation with Leo's father's body, it makes me think that Leo and Luna will face off against the human side while Celia and Hayato go after the demon king. That way the two groups wouldn't join forces just yet and the developer would be able to focus on one cast at a time. As for the role of the third protagonist we'll have to wait for the third game to find out more.

Yep, i hope next luna game is more longer and better. And more scene from luna's perspective

 

[Userz]

Dev said that the game won't be mini anymore, it will be bigger than Crypt and smaller than Mirage. Also Kotori might not appear in the game but apparently there's a side-project for her. And Hayato can be controlled during the nights

 

[Sir Weshmish]

Dev said that the game won't be mini anymore, it will be bigger than Crypt and smaller than Mirage. Also Kotori might not appear in the game but apparently there's a side-project for her. And Hayato can be controlled during the nights

Hoping for some Luna scenes imo

 

[Talos64]

Dev said that the game won't be mini anymore, it will be bigger than Crypt and smaller than Mirage. Also Kotori might not appear in the game but apparently there's a side-project for her. And Hayato can be controlled during the nights

Hopefully this means the next game after the one with the new protagonist is a Leo and Luna game, since the interlude game is going to be a proper sequel to Celia's story.

Honestly I don't really care about Kotori, she was the weakest character in Mirage and she felt more like a sidekick/comic relief type character than anything else. She definitely has a role to play in the story but I don't think she works as a love interest when compared to Luna and Kurone. If the developer makes a side-project focusing on her that means she's going to play a bigger role in the story and I'm worried that will take away focus from the main cast. Leo, Luna and Kurone are the ones I'm really looking forward to see more of. I think having too big of a cast can be detrimental for the series, that's why i hope the games keep focusing on one group at a time. One male protagonist, one female protagonist, one male antagonist and one female antagonist per group feels like the ideal setup. Maybe the developer wants to build Leo a harem or something but I prefer the focus to be on Luna's and Leo's relationship. I wonder why the developer felt the need to make a project specifically for Kotori, maybe she's more popular than I thought.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Hopefully this means the next game after the one with the new protagonist is a Leo and Luna game, since the interlude game is going to be a proper sequel to Celia's story.

Honestly I don't really care about Kotori, she was the weakest character in Mirage and she felt more like a sidekick/comic relief type character than anything else. She definitely has a role to play in the story but I don't think she works as a love interest when compared to Luna and Kurone. If the developer makes a side-project focusing on her that means she's going to play a bigger role in the story and I'm worried that will take away focus from the main cast. Leo, Luna and Kurone are the ones I'm really looking forward to see more of. I think having too big of a cast can be detrimental for the series, that's why i hope the games keep focusing on one group at a time. One male protagonist, one female protagonist, one male antagonist and one female antagonist per group feels like the ideal setup. Maybe the developer wants to build Leo a harem or something but I prefer the focus to be on Luna's and Leo's relationship. I wonder why the developer felt the need to make a project specifically for Kotori, maybe she's more popular than I thought.

Someone I was replying to at one point. Mentioned that that Kotori might've had a bigger role in the game originally. Or at least they wanted her to. Which kinda makes sense. So maybe that's them doing that .

But I gotta disagree about the LI thing. Kotori was a basic stereotype. The niave, easily swayed, unrequited lover. Early stage Leo absolutely would've worked with her. Hell all 3 of them embodied something that could've been used. Luna the serious overprotective one, Kotori the one where he could be a kid with, Kurone the fallen one he wanted to save. She was a blank canvas in a certain lane, ready to be molded. And they proceeded to do nothing with her. Instantly tossing her to the wolves. So I would personally say, it's not that she wouldn't have worked. They didn't want her to work.... at least by the time the game released.

Which kinda goes back to the idea that maybe she did have a bigger role. Because her whole NTR/corruption arc. Plays out as if she was someone closer to Leo/player. Instead of some random chick that ain't get much development.

 

[Talos64]

Someone I was replying to at one point. Mentioned that that Kotori might've had a bigger role in the game originally. Or at least they wanted her to. Which kinda makes sense. So maybe that's them doing that .

But I gotta disagree about the LI thing. Kotori was a basic stereotype. The niave, easily swayed, unrequited lover. Early stage Leo absolutely would've worked with her. Hell all 3 of them embodied something that could've been used. Luna the serious overprotective one, Kotori the one where he could be a kid with, Kurone the fallen one he wanted to save. She was a blank canvas in a certain lane, ready to be molded. And they proceeded to do nothing with her. Instantly tossing her to the wolves. So I would personally say, it's not that she wouldn't have worked. They didn't want her to work.... at least by the time the game released.

Which kinda goes back to the idea that maybe she did have a bigger role. Because her whole NTR/corruption arc. Plays out as if she was someone closer to Leo/player. Instead of some random chick that ain't get much development.

I agree that it feels like she was meant to play a bigger role in the game, the problem is that she didn't and first impressions matter a lot. As a fan of this series I'm lookin forward to see what happens to Luna and Kurone but have no interest in seeing the relationship between Leo and Kotori develop. I'm sure if she was handled better in this game it would be different, although I would still prefer Luna, but with the way things are now I don't feel like she needs her own game even if it is a side-project. Having her become a LI now feels unnecessary, not every character has to have erotic content to be a part of the story. From the developer's perspective I guess it makes sense not wanting to waste a character they worked hard on and try to salvage some of the ideas they had for her, but I can't help but feel a little dissapointed that resources are being spent on her and not on other characters I find more interesting. At least there's a chance that this Kotori side-project includes Luna and/or Kurone so maybe I'm being overly pessimistic.

 

[strelitzia]

Are there any sprite animations or any cg of Luna getting with guards/knights?