Dotu Lord

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In Complex Breeding, that is a stat, rather than a trait.
You can increase the "womb size/Max concurrent conceptions/multiple pregnancy" via the tentacle room with "Enlarge Womb Size" modifier or via womb dilation, which happens randomly during climax inside (Which is how you got bigger womb before room upgrade).
If they don't have the required womb size for monster offspring, they can still have slave offspring if they have the corresponding essence (feral for minotaur, elemental for salamander).



Despite having the UI suggest otherwise, I think that you get predetermined traits from Noel. No matter what traits you roll.



When a negative number is displayed, you need at least that much in "Vitality Storage". You get those via the "drain" modifiers.
When the requirements (Vitality / stat to drain is present), there is a chance that change will occur upon climax. A floating text will appear.
This has been greatly helpful to me, but I have just one thing I need to respond to and additional issues I noticed.

Slaves and monsters who come out of Noel's vat do not display stats at all. They have a personality and a profession(sometimes), but no essence.

Cosmetic potions do not work on my slaves at all. I can't change them. I don't know if that's intended by the mod or another issue.

Also, I've had weird issues with my pixies not moving newborns, birth count not increasing, and slaves randomly dying upon loading the game.
 

flannan

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Cosmetic potions do not work on my slaves at all. I can't change them. I don't know if that's intended by the mod or another issue.
This is a feature of the Complex Breeding mod.

Also, I've had weird issues with my pixies not moving newborns, birth count not increasing, and slaves randomly dying upon loading the game.
This seems to be a bug. No idea what exactly is wrong there.
 

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Cosmetic potions do not work on my slaves at all. I can't change them. I don't know if that's intended by the mod or another issue.
Yeah, that is part of the mod. I guess it's because the mod uses the cosmetic system to facilitate the different looks for the slave races.
 
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Dotu Lord

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Again, I do appreciate the answers. I have another question I would like some clarification on regarding the tentacle room and essence.

When a slave has positive or negative essence, I need to pair that with the opposite modifier on the room to "drain" it, right?
So if a slave has -30 eternal I need to, over time, add +1 or +2 to its value with a "Drain eternal essence +2" to eventually get it to even out and removed from their sheet?

I've got CB for dummies active but I can't seem to get any of the races with forbidden essences to spawn no matter how long I leave slaves breeding with the required essence to make it happen. It's been hours of real world time.

Do I absolutely need to drain the sacred and demonic essence from a slave to get them to spawn a vampire, or vice versa for an angel? Because I'm losing my mind.
 

racingFire

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Also, I've had weird issues with my pixies not moving newborns, birth count not increasing, and slaves randomly dying upon loading the game.
The randomly dying is prolly a bug. I had that happen randomly.
Pixies not moving newborns can be just too much to do for them or no space.
If Pixies stop working completely, that would likely be a glitchy slave.
Can't comment on birth count not increasing. Haven't paid attention to that.

Slaves and monsters who come out of Noel's vat do not display stats at all. They have a personality and a profession(sometimes), but no essence.
As I mentioned before, I think this is intentional. The traits/essences you roll for will not be considered as far as I know.
Pretty sure Minotaur and Salamander have some essences when using Noel's vat. Likely predefined.

When a slave has positive or negative essence, I need to pair that with the opposite modifier on the room to "drain" it, right?
So if a slave has -30 eternal I need to, over time, add +1 or +2 to its value with a "Drain eternal essence +2" to eventually get it to even out and removed from their sheet?
Just to be sure. Do you actually have slaves with negative essences or positive above 10 ?
Or is that in theory from the rolls you see in Noel's vet ?

The +1/+2 are the amount of Vitality you get for draining/ removing one level of the corresponding essence. One at a time.
Essences cannot be added to an existing slave, only to their offspring. Essences can be removed.
Hence negative essences shouldn't work.

Vitality is basically a resource that is tied to tentacle rooms.
You gain it by draining things, according to the indicated + number.
You use it to add things, according to the indicated - number.

I've got CB for dummies active but I can't seem to get any of the races with forbidden essences to spawn no matter how long I leave slaves breeding with the required essence to make it happen. It's been hours of real world time.

Do I absolutely need to drain the sacred and demonic essence from a slave to get them to spawn a vampire, or vice versa for an angel? Because I'm losing my mind.
To get an Angel, you need 8 sacred and 4 magical essence while NOT having any demonic or eternal essence.
Meaning you gotta drain demonic and eternal essence.
 
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flannan

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When a slave has positive or negative essence, I need to pair that with the opposite modifier on the room to "drain" it, right?
So if a slave has -30 eternal I need to, over time, add +1 or +2 to its value with a "Drain eternal essence +2" to eventually get it to even out and removed from their sheet?
If you have essence values like "-30", this is either caused by "Chaotic Market" mod, or by loading a game started without Complex Breeding. Normally, essence values should be from 0 to 10, but essence values use the same data slots as ordinary trait modifiers without CB.
This might also be why slaves randomly die when you load the game. If such values result in them having negative hitpoints, it might kill them.

"Drain eternal essence" should reduce the eternal essence value, bringing it to -31, then -32 and so on. While giving your vitality store +2 for every essence drained. But note that it might refuse to drain essence that is below 0.
 

Dotu Lord

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Yes, I have slaves with negative values all the time. -30 isn't even the highest I've seen on a slave. I believe I have one with -45.

I do have chaotic market activated but I only started this playthrough after installing and activating the mods in the modpack. I had a failed first run, then started a fresh playthough. So everything was installed and activated already.

So from what you said, negative essence values are not normal. That makes more sense. I guess I'll try turning off chaotic market and starting a fresh playthrough to see if there are still negative values on slaves.
 
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Dotu Lord

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There are no negative values on my slaves after deactivating chaotic market. However, essence appearing on my slaves is also much less common now. Two types of essence at +1 on a paladin. Majority of the slaves available for sale don't have essence and I haven't found a single one with eternal essence in hours of play.
 

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There are no negative values on my slaves after deactivating chaotic market. However, essence appearing on my slaves is also much less common now. Two types of essence at +1 on a paladin. Majority of the slaves available for sale don't have essence and I haven't found a single one with eternal essence in hours of play.
This is how it should be. This mod is about spending a lot of time breeding slaves for high essence values.
But either Complex Breeding or Complex Breeding for Dummies have settings that give more variety to slaves you're getting.

About eternal essence - you can get some from tentacle rooms, or you can get it from some brothel visitors. Overall, it is relatively rare.
 
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Somebody have full save, or gallery unlocker? Cuz i don't want search through half thousand pages, and don't tell me use search, i don't know, maybe that's me, but it almost never worked.
 

Dotu Lord

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About eternal essence - you can get some from tentacle rooms, or you can get it from some brothel visitors. Overall, it is relatively rare.
How do I accomplish this? I've never seen an option for tentacle rooms to add eternal to my slaves.
 

racingFire

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How do I accomplish this? I've never seen an option for tentacle rooms to add eternal to my slaves.
The "taint" modifier. It allows you to add the Eternal essence. I believe you can only add up to +1 (aka 1).
I kinda forgot about it, hence my comment about not being able to add essence to existing slaves is technically wrong, I guess.
 
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Somebody have full save, or gallery unlocker? Cuz i don't want search through half thousand pages, and don't tell me use search, i don't know, maybe that's me, but it almost never worked.
How about a guide? It's in my signature.
Or a cheat mod? There is a guide to installing mods in my signature too.

I'm pretty sure I shared a save here somewhere, but I can only find my save for Complex Breeding mod. So I'll re-upload my save on day 51. Not sure if launching it will be enough to unlock gallery.
 

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I downloaded the mod pack and followed the guide, but when I turn on the game, a separate black window does not appear, and the mode settings window does not appear even when I press F5.
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Solved. The folder address contained languages other than English. The problem was solved by moving it to right under the C drive.
 
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Does anyone know more games like this?
Yes. But this one is the best.
Goblin... Brothel and Mudblood Prologue are pretty much the same game, but 3d. And I think they're worse in gameplay too.
Project R is this game's authors' next project. It is in development, and thus wouldn't be as good as this game until it reaches at least version 0.7 (it is currently at 0.3).
Black Market (without the "monster") is probably the main inspiration of this game. It's not on this site due to having too young lolis. Note that it's made by the same people as Mad Island.
Brothel-keeping games, like Isekai Parlor Simulator and Charm Commerce, can be good, but they aren't breeding games. I guess among their kind, My Slave Brothel feels kinda similar to MBM. It's not on this site, I guess because some lolis look too young too.
Most breeding games aren't like this one at all. I would have recommended you Monster Girl Garden, if only it had a convenient interface.
On that note, can anybody recommend me a breeding game that is not like Breeding Season? Perhaps more like "Flying Princess Interbreed"?
And I guess I should mention Strive series, and Portals of Phereon.
 
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