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to not go overly OT...balkan/ex yu isnt that small area and with quite various (to say it that way) people, yet you got it right
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to not go overly OT...balkan/ex yu isnt that small area and with quite various (to say it that way) people, yet you got it right
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Well I may not know any IRL werewolves but I do read and watch werewolf related stories, and frankly you don't need to be a genius to understand that wolves live in a pack with single alpha"werewolves are known to be..."?
how many werewolves do you know IRL?
alpha wolves are monogamous, there is one male and one female to rule a whole pack. ende.
everythying else is stretching, even in such fantasy genre.
btw, it doesnt amtter if this is a fantasy game or not, some things just dont fit in there- or they do fit but make game worse than it could be...harem, or better to say "pokemon-catch-em-all" (as any proper haremer knows, harem isnt a harem if one cant get all chicks, including dead ones too), is one of those things.
btw, did you try to come to any other "proper RL harem" game, grandma house or wvm, for example, and to say "man, this is some shit, wtf is happening there - any chick is just jumping straight on mcs dick and is perfectly happy to share him. thats not avn/non-fantasy, no way hose"? im sure, if not done already, you are planning on dosing so, right?
And for other thing on harem topic, well if Mr. Saint fapper is so against harem troupe, then stay away from a harem game's thread, you are acting like those NTR bitches whining why there is no NTR in every game.
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First, I am confident you don't know what objective means.
Second, I am confident you have no idea how development works. There is a cost of putting more choices. Real impactful choices also mean more paths to develop. When there are resource constraints, like time, focusing on less options can be better.
Third, giving players always what they want many times means a worse outcome. Most players do want happy endings during the story, want good characters to be happy and bad characters to be punished. Yet it is many times the effect of problems and conflict and loss that make for a memorable story.
Following your logic, give players just what they want, means we no have doubts we are going to succeed, we are guaranteed from the beginning a happy ending. So where is the sense of thrill?
Fourth, being always able to get everyone if you "pick right", means decisions are not choices but true or wrong answer exam questions. To choose means giving up on the choices not taken.
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First of all, this thread doesn't have harem tag. But even if it had one - I, as a non-harem player, still would have joined it. Just like some harem fanbase jump into non-harem threads and cry about not having a harem, it happens all the time.
Secondly, this game in not going to have full harem, Dev stated it already a few times at least, his last comment on this topic - here.
And the 3rd one, I've read few last pages in a thread and to me it looks like it's you, who started whining here.
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Damn Dev, I understand that some LI will only accept a monogamous relationship, but the consequences for not choosing Olga is just wrong. You may as well made the MC finish her off with a sharp pair of scissors. Now he's literally guilty of first degree murder. Way to go.
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all I know is that the game is ignoring my choices and decisions in one of the monogamy routes
Lily is acting like we are never in a loving monogamous relationship and then she breaks up with me for no good reason
I don't really care about sad endings make for a much more memorable store and all of that
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Unpopular Opinion: I am okay with the game having consequences. Make the game replayable to be honest; also I'm shocked that many people are shock that this game is dark.
I mean the game have a lot of drama and dark themes; it's monster college game with creatures who have to hide themselves and etc of course their is always going to drama. I feel like most people just probably skippedor forgot. I reaplyed this game many times to know how dark is.
P.S. Soooooooo happy to have Lily and Sofia threesome finally and Grace I love her.
I mean the game have a lot of drama and dark themes; it's monster college game with creatures who have to hide themselves and etc of course their is always going to drama. I feel like most people just probably skippedor forgot. I reaplyed this game many times to know how dark is.
P.S. Soooooooo happy to have Lily and Sofia threesome finally and Grace I love her.
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I have no problem brother with choices having consequences
as a monogamy player I'm all for it but what I don't like is that Lily
apologizing for being too pushy and then acting like we were never in a loving relationship and then dumping me for no good reason
but before that telling me she doesn't blame me for never sticking up for her which is not true
and I don't like seeing my girl with anybody else but me
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hmm, seems as a bug.
probably worth reporting it to the dev.
btw, im just starting my lily-only route so hopefully im gonna be able top deny/confirm your bug finding soon enough.
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There is no world in which you can argue that more options is a bad thing. More work? Sure. But a BAD thing? No. You're high if you think that. So yes, it is objectively better to have options and choices, because in that case EVERYONE gets what they want. People that want a blind run can go in, get the choices they made and live with them, but then play again with new information and get a better one. And others that don't want to do harem content can avoid it, while those that do can get it. There is absolutely zero argument you or anyone can make to prove that this is a bad thing in any way.
I also do know how development works, the dev has ALREADY put multiple choices in the game. If this was a kinetic novel then yeah, it would be a lot more work to add choices now this late in. But it's not. There are already branches upon branches. They are already doing it. This is also not some large developer like with normal games. There is no time constraint aside from what they promise their community. Same for resources, they are making all the resources themselves. So no clue what the hell you even mean by resource constraints. Do you think the dev for this has a massive team of people on pay roll or something? The dev can take as long as they want and invest as much time as they want in a project like this.
I think you are also talking out your ass about giving players what they want being bad. That sounds like the mind rot a ubisoft ceo would spout off. Especially since in this case "giving them what they want" is the option to make choices and result in different outcomes, good or bad.
You also seem to have a completely incorrect thinking on success in choices. Like yes, there is always a best outcome choice. Even in real life. Sometimes they are much harder to see, but that's why we have hindsight, we can look back and see that had we done something different, it would have resulted in a better outcome, meaning that a better outcome WAS possible. As for being guaranteed a happy ending and thus having no thrill....what the fuck are you even here for then? My dude, my DUDE, this is a porn game. This is a harem focused porn game.. Let me fill you in on a little secret here: 99% of the porn games on this site, are gonna have an ending where you get the girl or get laid or some other "happy" ending. The ones that you don't, are kink driven ones like ntr and shit like that. Which, if that's what you want, I have to ask once again, what the fuck are you even doing here? Cause that isn't what this game was ever going to be.
sorry do you see the post with the actual pool on patreon?bt far harem route is what patrons wants.....dunno why the facts scare some ppl....
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Harem rocks with characters that are different. GM is a perfect example all different personality women. In this game all different type of monster girls. A good harem game should be like Pokémon gotta catchem all.
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You seem to be just blind. I gave you an argument in terms of production cost. And I gave you an argument in terms of the effect the developer wants to give to the player. Acting Lessons is among the best example of this.
You are just throwing a tantrum saying "i want all options". Sometimes those additional options can reduce the experience.
This paragraph proves to me you have 0 idea of how it works. Adding several real options has an exponential growth. If you have 2 choices, you have 2 paths. If you add another choice with 2 alternatives, you have 4 paths. Add another choice with another 2 alternatives you have 8. True, not all paths need to be fully unique. But you cannot just simply say "you can just add choices as they have been doing" because precisely if you have already made many paths, adding more is more and more complex.
And time is a resource, computing power is another resource, effort is another resource. Do you really think that they are making all the resources themselves? most images you see have things that are purchased, each image consumes a lot of electricity power to create, and writing takes time. Do you really think supporters will just say "take the time you need for 1000 paths to make? we will be here in 2050.. maybe"
Giving players what they want when they ask for stupid things are precisely what you should say no to. Not every request is sensible. Everybody knows that. For example, players may request you give everything for free. Is that sensible for a company making money? learn to differentiate. Ubisoft fucked up because they listen to some insensible request. Like make a lot of DEI stuff, instead of focusing on making good games, which sometimes means, you have 0 DEI content, just good content.
Where it says this is a porn game? AFAIK this is an adult visual novel. And f95 is an adult site. Big difference.
And no, not all games will give you fully happy endings in which everyone is happy. Sometimes crap needs to happen. That is precisely like life. Let me tell you something, there is no path in which you can, for example, date Marylin Monroe. It's just not possible. Deal with it.
I could ask you the same, what the fuck are you doing here? game is what it is. Oh wait.. i know what this is. ITS A FUCKING FORUM. The point is discussing the game. Saying what we like and saying what we dislike. Shocking. I know... Do you need a sarcasm sign?
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said that I don't agree with
I don't agree with the saying that an adult novel is just a porn game
an adult visual novel can be more than that
in my opinion the best visual novels are really great stories that just happened to have sex in them
I have played adult visual novels with stories so beautiful it made me cry
I have played adult visual novels that was so sad it made me sad for days
it has allow me to leave this wheelchair and experience a world and life I could only Dream Of
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I am not scared of facts. On the contrary. I am saying facts as they are. I had literally said sometimes by listening to your audience without paying attention you can fuck up, specially MID development. At the end of the day, only the developer knows the story they want to tell. He decided to make a poll and then he tied his hands. IF he wanted to make a harem, this should have been his decision before starting the story and writing characters for which harem makes no sense.
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So? Where is it written in this Patreon post that this poll is about this game?
Have you seen this post? Before that Dev posted another poll about fetishes, to me it looks like general poll to gather some information, maybe Dev is just gathering information for his next game? Your wishful thinking and reality might differ you know.
Also I never consider open polls trustworthy, I mean common - someone wrote in comments under the poll that ALL AVNs should be harems
As about what his patrons want: first of all - this post is open not only for patrons lol, and secondly - what exactly they want? I see that 360 votes for full harem and 203 votes either for solo or semi-harem - ONLY when it fits the story AND character personality. How do you suggest Dev to approach it - to go along with 360 people and to say fuck off to other 203, damn, I'd assume you are a marketing genius
And again - Dev stated many times that the game won't have a full harem in the end.
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Jesus christ, you must have written a book on straw man arguments, because that was the largest paragraph of bullshit I've read in a while. I never said I want ALL options. I said that the addition of options is always good. And i explained why. And i even said that it does mean more work. It is much easier to add in branching paths once you have already committed to making branching paths, the only downside to this is more work but that is the only one. Because at the end of the day more choice means more players can experience a story the way they want, meaning more people can enjoy it and avoid the things they do not enjoy. You seem to think that adding more choices implies adding in a choice for everything at every turn. It doesn't. It would be really cool to do that, but it's not feasible. But adding in path choices IS very doable. MANY games on this site in fact have done and still do this. It isn't like there are a thousand girls in this like something like wvm or grandmas house or one of the other mega harem games around. It's a fairly reasonable cast that you could write in choices in a reasonable manner to allow for people to not pursue some characters while going after others, and based on certain characters personalities not include them in certain options as it would not make sense unless they write in something that happens to change that dynamic.
As for the resource argument. That's just you blowing hot air. They do not have share holders or a board of directors to please, so as long as they communicate with backers and keep a stable income, that resource use is stable and fine. So again, there is no reason to use lack of resources to say they can't do something. They have all of the tools required to do what they need to do already, and any assets they can't or do not want to make themselves they can buy or have commissioned with the income they are making, which is exactly what that income is for, to keep working on the project and eventually release it in full.
Now please explain what "stupid" things people are asking for here? What are these "no" requests you seem to think are being made? Are people asking for all the girls to suddenly grow dicks and fuck the mc? Are they asking for men to be in the harem? Maybe vore? No. Just some extra choices in a harem game, which in most cases revolve around choices in trying to get the girl to add into the harem, unless it's a kinetic novel with zero choice from the start.
And yes. Nearly everything on this site is porn. If you don't think so, go and play this in public and see how that goes, and please take video of the outcome, it would be funny to see how passersby react to you fucking a demon women in a game on a laptop in some cafe or park somewhere. Saying this is not porn is just a semantics argument, and a wrong one at that.
And your monroe example is flawed. No, flat out wrong. We are not talking about options involving literally impossible things. We are talking about conversations with a person that can lead to different outcomes. Saying there is no chance to fuck marylin monroe is such a disingenuous take to make. Like yeah, she's fucking dead , that's not the kind of best outcome we are talking about, and you know it.
And yes, this is a forum. A forum for a game with a focus on harem. So yeah, what are you doing here if you don't like these things or at least seem not to? That's like going onto the forum for a game with heavy ntr and complaining it doesn't have any vanila sex where the main character beats up the guy cucking him and taking back his love interest. It's just not on the table to begin with. So getting into an argument about it is just plain dumb. Like saying yeah i don't like this is one thing, but going on and on about why and how and what it should be like some of these people are about the harem needing to be removed, like why even bother chiming in at that point? It's not a product for them, nor was it ever, and trying to advocate for that to change is just plain silly.