VN RPGM Completed Monster Girl 1,000 [v19.3.1] [TwistedScarlett]

[mrttao]

just hope TwistedScarelett Reads all the posts so he/she knows how everyone feels cause i dont like NTR And if the girls in this game who love the MC have Sex with anyone other then MC in this game be it man or women its 100% NTR/Cheating i dont know why someone would think Lesbian is not Cheating/NTR cause it is Docent what matter what the gender is if the girl goes to fuck another Girl thats diffenly NTR/Cheating same thing as if the girl goes to fuck another man but yea thats how i feel

Everything stems from human biological imperative to breed.

If your woman fucks other men, you might become the victim of brood parasitism. or catch an STD.
If your women fuck each other, they cannot impregnate each other. And no extra STD risk since you were already fucking them all.
They are also far less likely to murder each other's children in a struggle for your resources.

Thus men are generally genetically wired to be very threatened by other men, but find it non threatening for their women to have sex with each other.
The vast overwhelming majority of people follow this genetic wiring.

And now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

 

[Sheepy Cloud]

Yulia Quiz 2
(Couldn't find it when searching, so I'm posting one myself.)

Spoiler: Answers

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[Sheepy Cloud]

Everything stems from human biological imperative to breed.

If your woman fucks other men, you might become the victim of brood parasitism. or catch an STD.
If your women fuck each other, they cannot impregnate each other. And no extra STD risk since you were already fucking them all.
They are also far less likely to murder each other's children in a struggle for your resources.

Thus men are generally genetically wired to be very threatened by other men, but find it non threatening for their women to have sex with each other.
The vast overwhelming majority of people follow this genetic wiring.

And now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

Nah he doesn't know. He's just insecure.
I like things to be more on the wholesome side, so NTR is a big no for me, but girl-on-girl is fine.
It's hot, only the most insecure will ever say that it isn't hot to watch two women you're attracted to have sex. It's like women finding it hot watching 2 dudes go at it (Though to my knowledge that's not actually particularly common among women?).

I digress. The game makes it explicitly obvious that the sex is consented to by the MC. The MC approves of and usually even joins in on the fun. Saying that it's cheating/NTR is like saying it's cheating if I kiss my mother on the cheek while in a relationship. It's nonsensical to the point of being stupid.
It's literally a harem. Expecting the girls to not have sex with each other, or engage in threesomes/orgies (With each other, or the MC), is like expecting a straight man to not stick his dick in pussy. Or ass, I don't speak for everyones sexual preferences.

Edit:
Consequentially, it's also NTR if the MC has sex with someone other than the first girl he sticks his dick into. Or gets married to.
Double standard as it's called. "It's fine if the guy fucks everything that walks on two legs. Give this man a medal! But oh no, the woman can't do that, she's a slut! We must shame her!"

 

[TwistedScarlett60]

The above conversation is why I added dialogue options to let the player choose how much hypothetical flexibility they give the girls' sex lives.

1) You can welcome them to sleep with whoever they want, that's what you're doing after all, and on this path you have no double standards about that.
2) You may invite them to sleep with anyone in the harem. Girl love rules, says the protagonist on this path.
3) You can also tell them that you only want them to sleep with you. This one is hardest to justify, but for jealousy-prone protagonists, they might not like the idea of any of their 70+ girls sleeping with anyone else.

The game doesn't cover absolutely every event. It's implied that while you're shopping and sleeping with many girls, Ray and Bessie are off doing other things. If you picked (1) they might be engaging in the same kind of business as you, but given the state of the world, it seems unlikely that they'll find another male lover anyway unless it was at a Capital City brothel. Whether you think going to a brothel is beneath the girls, that's entirely up to your own personal head canon. I was going to add optional scenes where Bessie could hire escorts, but I decided that it would be too different from what the game is already about.
Your harem, on the other hand, is likely brimming with a lot of love if you picked options (1) or (2). I'd love to represent this in some way, but some things are beyond the scope of the game. I may add several unique threesomes with interesting harem combinations once the main story is complete that can help flesh out the sense of community within the harem.

 

[Sheepy Cloud]

...

Can you ah, explain what's happening with the Fight choice for the Capital city thing?
I've honestly become lost on what's going on.
(To be clear, I'm getting lost with all the references to Eris, who is standing there talking to them.)

Edit: And now it's explained by going down the Accept route-
(Bad memory, apparently going through the game again still didn't let me retain this info.)

 

[TwistedScarlett60]

Can you ah, explain what's happening with the Fight choice for the Capital city thing?
I've honestly become lost on what's going on.
(To be clear, I'm getting lost with all the references to Eris, who is standing there talking to them.)

What are you confused about, Soldier? Did you not notice there are multiple "Eris"?

 

[Sheepy Cloud]

What are you confused about, Soldier? Did you not notice there are multiple "Eris"?

Thought it was all one person. Edit to previous comment kinda explains why.

 

[narutomater]

the Reason why you guys who said Lesbian is not considered Cheating/NTR is cause i bet your all into Rape/NTR/Dark shit that why you dont see Lesbian as Cheating/NTR cause it is 100% Cheating/NTR if girl fucks another girl when in love with the MC And Just Great now i Need to worry about Lesbian Sceenes with Girls only being added to the game that will ruin the Romance with the MC if the DEV does add stuff like that at least make it Optional so it not affected by Main Games Story cause i dont want to watch Lesbian shit and see it in the Main Games story Also im Entitled to my Opnion to express to the Devloper on how i feel

 

[HaremKingOzai]

the Reason why you guys who said Lesbian is not considered Cheating/NTR is cause i bet your all into Rape/NTR/Dark shit that why you dont see Lesbian as Cheating/NTR cause it is 100% Cheating/NTR if girl fucks another girl when in love with the MC And Just Great now i Need to worry about Lesbian Sceenes with Girls only being added to the game that will ruin the Romance with the MC if the DEV does add stuff like that at least make it Optional so it not affected by Main Games Story cause i dont want to watch Lesbian shit and see it in the Main Games story Also im Entitled to my Opnion to express to the Devloper on how i feel

Wow, so lesbians are equivalent to "rape/NTR/Dark shit"? Maybe you are just a homophobe. I didn't mean to start a philosophical discussion on whether it's appropriate for members of a harem to sleep with each other, geez. We already had the option to suggest to Ray and Bessie to play with each other while the MC is "busy." We also have a few threesome scenes that apparently are fine. The girls usually play with each others' clits during these scenes so it's no stretch to think that they could interact a little more during those scenes. So there is already reference to F/F play in the game if that's not your thing. The reason I suggested Bessie for this route is because she has the most threesome scenes (Keke, Fiona, Ray, and the dark elf girl. With her being the "harem manager" it wouldn't be hard to explain with hentai logic that she is in charge of keeping the girls satisfied since it isn't likely that MC is going to get to all 15+ in the harem plus the ones in the outside world.

Also, I guess netori is fine since the MC had Polishes-Many-Spears cheat on her husband with him and then leave him. This is still NTR from the perspective of her husband. Girls sleeping with each other in a harem is not typically considered NTR because no one is being "stolen." Netorare means to be stolen from and Netori means to steal from which doesn't really apply in this context.

Now that I think about it we have already had instances of F/F stuff going on. Bessie and Keke were making out by themselves before the MC joined in and it's the same with Ray and Luna. So were those NTR up until the point MC joined in? That logic doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Uthuriel]

It's actually very simple...
Some people just don't like their LIs engage without them present.
Starting a whole NTR discussion over this isn't necessary though.

 

[muschi26]

The happiest harems are when everyone involved love each other.

The only happy harems. Any harem in which the girls don't at least like each other as sisters is a nightmare. That's when you get harem politics, cliques, manipulation, depression, suicide, murder, infanticide, etc., etc.

Although I kind of have a thing for those too, so I'd be fine with a game where the goal is to manage an unruly harem, as long as there was the possibility of turning it into a lovey-dovey harem by the end.

 

[narutomater]

Wow, so lesbians are equivalent to "rape/NTR/Dark shit"? Maybe you are just a homophobe. I didn't mean to start a philosophical discussion on whether it's appropriate for members of a harem to sleep with each other, geez. We already had the option to suggest to Ray and Bessie to play with each other while the MC is "busy." We also have a few threesome scenes that apparently are fine. The girls usually play with each others' clits during these scenes so it's no stretch to think that they could interact a little more during those scenes. So there is already reference to F/F play in the game if that's not your thing. The reason I suggested Bessie for this route is because she has the most threesome scenes (Keke, Fiona, Ray, and the dark elf girl. With her being the "harem manager" it wouldn't be hard to explain with hentai logic that she is in charge of keeping the girls satisfied since it isn't likely that MC is going to get to all 15+ in the harem plus the ones in the outside world.

Also, I guess netori is fine since the MC had Polishes-Many-Spears cheat on her husband with him and then leave him. This is still NTR from the perspective of her husband. Girls sleeping with each other in a harem is not typically considered NTR because no one is being "stolen." Netorare means to be stolen from and Netori means to steal from which doesn't really apply in this context.

Now that I think about it we have already had instances of F/F stuff going on. Bessie and Keke were making out by themselves before the MC joined in and it's the same with Ray and Luna. So were those NTR up until the point MC joined in? That logic doesn't make sense to me.

well bessie and keke making out is not same plus they were in heat so couldent control that and MC still joined in on the action and Polishes many spears her husband dident give a rats ass about her and she finally relized she should divorce and find another man and i wasent saying Lesbeian is Dark/Rape it just that it cheating still my FOR FUCKS SAKE take this for excample there a gay and lesbian couples if the 1 of couples from the Gay and Lesbian couple start doing stuff with other girls or men it still Cheating/NTR ill say this the the girl from the lesbian couple starts fucking fucking the man from the Gay couple thats considered Cheating and NTR and same goes for if girl from lesbian couple does it with another girl that Cheating on her lover and take this for excmaple if 1 person from the Gay couple does it with that girl from the Lesbian couple thats Cheating/NTR same goes for if the Man form Gay couple does it with another Man Thats Cheating/NTR and before you start talknig about the Doupleganger thats different to cause Clone and Dante Share Memories and experiences togther so whatever clone sees and feels and lives the orignal rembers everything memory and Feeling and experninces and also im fine with gir on girl if MC is joining in on Threesome cause there engageing with MC and girl together it pisses me off when people dont understand shit anyway guess whatever happens happens ill have to wait for the game to finish to know if i want to continue playing it cause it either will become ruined or ill like it but ill cross that bridge when it comes to it im done saying anything or ill end up getting to stressed over it

 

[muschi26]

well bessie and keke making out is not same plus they were in heat so couldent control that and MC still joined in on the action and Polishes many spears her husband dident give a rats ass about her and she finally relized she should divorce and find another man and i wasent saying Lesbeian is Dark/Rape it just that it cheating still my FOR FUCKS SAKE take this for excample there a gay and lesbian couples if the 1 of couples from the Gay and Lesbian couple start doing stuff with other girls or men it still Cheating/NTR ill say this the the girl from the lesbian couple starts fucking fucking the man from the Gay couple thats considered Cheating and NTR and same goes for if girl from lesbian couple does it with another girl that Cheating on her lover and take this for excmaple if 1 person from the Gay couple does it with that girl from the Lesbian couple thats Cheating/NTR same goes for if the Man form Gay couple does it with another Man Thats Cheating/NTR and before you start talknig about the Doupleganger thats different to cause Clone and Dante Share Memories and experiences togther so whatever clone sees and feels and lives the orignal rembers everything memory and Feeling and experninces SO WHY DONT YOU GROW A FUCKING BRAIN BEFORE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH YOU ASSHOLE

The difference is that you use couples as an example, which are closed or exclusive relationships. A harem is a polyamorous relationship, and moreover it is an open relationship, since you are continuously adding members to the harem. If your relationship were a closed triad (e.g. Dante, Ray, and Bessie exclusively), then yes, sleeping with anyone outside of the triad would be considered cheating—and that would go for Dante as well as the girls.

Also my man, you're going to have to start using punctuation if you want to write walls of text like that.

 

[TwistedScarlett60]

well bessie and keke making out is not same plus they were in heat so couldent control that and MC still joined in on the action and Polishes many spears her husband dident give a rats ass about her and she finally relized she should divorce and find another man and i wasent saying Lesbeian is Dark/Rape it just that it cheating still my FOR FUCKS SAKE take this for excample there a gay and lesbian couples if the 1 of couples from the Gay and Lesbian couple start doing stuff with other girls or men it still Cheating/NTR ill say this the the girl from the lesbian couple starts fucking fucking the man from the Gay couple thats considered Cheating and NTR and same goes for if girl from lesbian couple does it with another girl that Cheating on her lover and take this for excmaple if 1 person from the Gay couple does it with that girl from the Lesbian couple thats Cheating/NTR same goes for if the Man form Gay couple does it with another Man Thats Cheating/NTR and before you start talknig about the Doupleganger thats different to cause Clone and Dante Share Memories and experiences togther so whatever clone sees and feels and lives the orignal rembers everything memory and Feeling and experninces and also im fine with gir on girl if MC is joining in on Threesome cause there engageing with MC and girl together it pisses me off when people dont understand shit anyway guess whatever happens happens ill have to wait for the game to finish to know if i want to continue playing it cause it either will become ruined or ill like it but ill cross that bridge when it comes to it im done saying anything or ill end up getting to stressed over it

God damn, that's the longest sentence I've ever seen.

 

[narutomater]

The difference is that you use couples as an example, which are closed or exclusive relationships. A harem is a polyamorous relationship, and moreover it is an open relationship, since you are continuously adding members to the harem. If your relationship were a closed triad (e.g. Dante, Ray, and Bessie exclusively), then yes, sleeping with anyone outside of the triad would be considered cheating—and that would go for Dante as well as the girls.

Also my man, you're going to have to start using punctuation if you want to write walls of text like that.

maybe i am over thinking it to much as long as they love Dante AKA the MC equally then i surpose it fine idk what to think anymore maybe i should just accept what everyone saying cause it not gonna change anything

 

[mrttao]

the Reason why you guys who said Lesbian is not considered Cheating/NTR is cause i bet your all into Rape/NTR/Dark shit that why you dont see Lesbian as Cheating/NTR cause it is 100% Cheating/NTR if girl fucks another girl when in love with the MC And Just Great now i Need to worry about Lesbian Sceenes with Girls only being added to the game that will ruin the Romance with the MC if the DEV does add stuff like that at least make it Optional so it not affected by Main Games Story cause i dont want to watch Lesbian shit and see it in the Main Games story Also im Entitled to my Opnion to express to the Devloper on how i feel

I literally explained to you exactly why it is...

snip

And you go ahead and dismiss my actual explanation as a lie, and instead say that I am a cuck-rapist bad person?
what is wrong with you?

 

[MarklesMcReedleston]

The above conversation is why I added dialogue options to let the player choose how much hypothetical flexibility they give the girls' sex lives.

1) You can welcome them to sleep with whoever they want, that's what you're doing after all, and on this path you have no double standards about that.
2) You may invite them to sleep with anyone in the harem. Girl love rules, says the protagonist on this path.
3) You can also tell them that you only want them to sleep with you. This one is hardest to justify, but for jealousy-prone protagonists, they might not like the idea of any of their 70+ girls sleeping with anyone else.

The game doesn't cover absolutely every event. It's implied that while you're shopping and sleeping with many girls, Ray and Bessie are off doing other things. If you picked (1) they might be engaging in the same kind of business as you, but given the state of the world, it seems unlikely that they'll find another male lover anyway unless it was at a Capital City brothel. Whether you think going to a brothel is beneath the girls, that's entirely up to your own personal head canon. I was going to add optional scenes where Bessie could hire escorts, but I decided that it would be too different from what the game is already about.
Your harem, on the other hand, is likely brimming with a lot of love if you picked options (1) or (2). I'd love to represent this in some way, but some things are beyond the scope of the game. I may add several unique threesomes with interesting harem combinations once the main story is complete that can help flesh out the sense of community within the harem.

I think that's a good idea as it will allow the game to appeal to a wider variety of people and make the self-insert aspect easier to believe. For instance, I'm polyamorous so the idea of the girls in my harem sleeping with other men as well is perfectly fine with me, but for others they might want to keep it only between other girls in the harem or just the MC. It's a nice touch that adds a lot in the game even if we never see all of those options play out as we can assume that stuff is going on behind the scenes.

 

[narutomater]

I literally explained to you exactly why it is...

And you go ahead and dismiss my actual explanation as a lie, and instead say that I am a cuck-rapist bad person?
what is wrong with you?

i just said in later messages im done talking about it and sorry if i said that since you feel offended and it looks like TwistedScarlett is creating optional stuff for these things which means i can avoid Lesbian or the girls fucking other men which is good for both parties read what he said in the late messages about this.
1) You can welcome them to sleep with whoever they want, that's what you're doing after all, and on this path you have no double standards about that.
2) You may invite them to sleep with anyone in the harem. Girl love rules, says the protagonist on this path.
3) You can also tell them that you only want them to sleep with you. This one is hardest to justify, but for jealousy-prone protagonists, they might not like the idea of any of their 70+ girls sleeping with anyone else.

 

[John Jonner]

Personally not too much of a fan of Dante's Doppelganger shenanigans. I get it's /technically/ him and all that, but it just ends up feeling really weird, especially since they're going to be going around fucking characters off screen.

 

[Deleted member 5132390]

It's actually very simple...
Some people just don't like their LIs engage without them present.
Starting a whole NTR discussion over this isn't necessary though.

Completely agree with you. The NTR it's another matter which doesn't even apply here, because the NTR implies cheating; And the harem, because of its nature is based in a polyamorous relationship between various members, not only the man. Meanwhile the NTR functions in a monogamy relationship, again, because of the nature of this kind of relationships it's supposed to be a loyalty with a single person. Let's also remember in the universe of this game, there's a dystopic scenario where the males are getting scarce, so in the side of the history, it's 100% justified this tendency about girls intimating with other girls.