ankhtar

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My guess is that's either a placeholder, or we'll get hit with one of those rpg-esque boss fight mechanics that'll have us significantly lowering her stats via a specific action and/or skill at the right time.
Hell, for all we know she might just lose on purpose if her sisters aren't looking and if you've shagged at the inn before, just to be "punished". She does seem to be a masochist.
 

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to ask if labyrinth is next or not to ask, that's the question..

also its a shame that Kotone will be the only one with so many cg:(
i would make some fan art cgs for villi but i can't even draw stick figures:cry:

also what about adding some semen layers on the cgs like in this game?
 

Konstantinus

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I put everything at start in Spirit and took every every available Spirit Perk and took the runes and items that give extra spirit.
 
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There is no way Beris will be fightable with her current stat line. Even if you could deal enough damage to take one Spirit per turn, the fight would still take 99 turns, which would just be a slog.

My guesses are she'll either be designed as an unwinnable enemy who must be avoided rather than fought, or we'll have to find a way to weaken her somehow. That's assuming she'll even be fightable to begin with, a fair few characters have stat lines but can't be fought in the current version, with only the Mountain campers being confirmed as being fightable in the future.
 
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There is no way Beris will be fightable with her current stat line. Even if you could deal enough damage to take one Spirit per turn, the fight would still take 99 turns, which would just be a slog.

My guesses are she'll either be designed as an unwinnable enemy who must be avoided rather than fought, or we'll have to find a way to weaken her somehow. That's assuming she'll even be fightable to begin with, a fair few characters have stat lines but can't be fought in the current version, with only the Mountain campers being confirmed as being fightable in the future.
or maybe she ll be the first one to actually surrender the fight
 
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Eredin5

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I'm looking forward to more difficult encounters in the Labyrinth. Caverns is my last favorite area TBH. I prefer more traditionally attractive monster girls, so there's no way my body will ever be ready for Amy. I appreciate that being an optional encounter for sure. Also none of the girls really had any challenging mechanics to do deal with besides the Salari. It could be a virtue of my character being OP by then too. Not to say the Caverns are bad, just not my cup of tea
 

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I prefer more traditionally attractive monster girls, so there's no way my body will ever be ready for Amy.
I can respect that you're not immediately dismissive of the more monstrous side, at least - personally, I'm of the opinion that if she can rip out my jugular, she can bear my kids. 10/10 would conquer my fears through sex again. Outright furry stuff is kind of eh to me, no real appeal, but razor sharp spikes? Tentacle hair? Amorphous bodies? God, please, send more my way!

The ability to choose your encounters is definitely something I really appreciate. Some people I know dislike it, since it gives them an incentive to just cheese and grind everything really easily, but I feel like they miss the part where this is an H-game first and foremost. The combat is honestly pretty impressive for an indie H-game, but it's not really what we're here for, is it?
 

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What type of relationship will you have with Venefica? Will it be just an expansion of her pay pig content? Or will she act similar to how she acts with the charm cookies? Or will it orientate around the Masochist/Sadist content?
 

Nixi~

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>Beris has 99 spirit

u fukin wot m8
Is this a challenge? Time to grind to level 1000. My Disgaea experience would come in handy one day, I knew it!
I can beat her ez with Aphoridiastic build up and bunkering down cleanse lust spam. Inb4 she's immune to that
 
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Konstantinus

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What type of relationship will you have with Venefica? Will it be just an expansion of her pay pig content? Or will she act similar to how she acts with the charm cookies? Or will it orientate around the Masochist/Sadist content?
Iirc the way she behaves during the lovey dovey adult chocolate will be a future glimpse on how a releationship with her will be.
 
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John Bon Clay

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I love this game. and it isn't so grindy as people say? I think, but if it is, just grab a few beers, put your mechanical or whatnot keyboard to always press ctrl, and just click away farming while listening to alphaville - forver young... and you'll get old in no time!

Honestly - I love this game and I rated it 5 stars! I can't wait for more!
 

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i thought this game was supposed to have fun erotic gameplay but it seems like once you get to the second dungeon you cant get passed the blue door literally not possible to fight hte adons every single room maybe fix this please game doesnt seem fun or balanced
the "adons", sorry typo is stopping this from being understandable, i expect the forum will help if they can but unless we know what you mean we're less than useless in that regard.
 
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Apologies for the recent lack of activity, work has been busy the past few days.

I have no doubt that Beris will have lower spirit when/if she becomes a boss of the labyrinth. It's probably just a placeholder for now since her hp is 666 if I remember correctly which is kinda memey right now, so I don't doubt the 99 spirit is the same.
There is a fair chance that it could be a placeholder if the intent is to make the Guardians surmountable by the average player that has not been grinding levels and thus allow for a number of standard adventurers to succeed as well. So, if the Labyrinth's Guardians are intended to be fought in a traditional manner, this could be a placeholder. However, Elena's advice about running from and avoiding the Guardians makes it sound like this will not be a series of normal boss fights. If you're insanely overpowered and have the patience, then you could go through the minimum 99 turn fight with Beris, but as Oluap mentioned this would be a slog for many people.

Assuming Elena's advice of avoiding the Guardians is true and the way the Labyrinth is supposed to play out, there may be checks while wandering the Labyrinth to avoid detection. Failing that will lead to a fight where your goal is to just temporarily disable the Guardian and then Run from the fight rather than attempting to defeat the Guardian in question. It is also possible that each Guardian could have some weakness that would cause them to either surrender or take abnormal amounts of damage and Spirit loss to end the fight more quickly, such as Beris being a masochist who enjoys bondage, so tying her up and then giving her a little pain, or the good girl treatment with headpats given she enjoys those when subbing as well, could lead to a swift victory or at least daze her so that you may flee.

There's also the question of how the Labyrinth is laid out, whether it is divided into quadrants with one Guardian patrolling each section or if all four roam the entire area, which could lead to situations where multiple Guardians could find you or you have a series of back to back checks if only one Guardian will find and fight you at a time. Given how all of the trials in every dungeon so far do seem to be designed to allow victory for those with a certain bare minimum of stats that increases with each dungeon, having quadrants with safe zone rest areas in-between does sound like how this dungeon may be designed. To illustrate this point, if the dungeons were not intended to be cleared, Sofia would just nuke every adventurer who wandered in to claim a Sigil of Allure or the Oni Twins would only allow for their Hardmode 2-vs-1 fight to claim a Sigil of Will-Power, that would drastically lower the number of adventurers who successfully passed each of those dungeons. Sure, most adventurers do get stopped in the Capital and barely any make it to the Desert, but that likely has more to do with the adventurers settling down with one of the numerous singles in the Capital and giving up on adventuring rather than strictly being defeated in the Casino dungeon.

I do hope that you find this enlightening, doomgal.

to ask if labyrinth is next or not to ask, that's the question..

also its a shame that Kotone will be the only one with so many cg:(
i would make some fan art cgs for villi but i can't even draw stick figures:cry:

also what about adding some semen layers on the cgs like in this game?
Current efforts are focused on bug fixing and once that is complete, there will be one more mini-build in the form of 23.4 that will cover completing Elly's quest and is also supposed to cover some to all of Venefica's romance content. While there is always the chance there could be one more mini-build, 23.4 is the last planned one for the moment and then v24 will become the next focus after another round of bug fixing. v24 should be the Labyrinth given discussions of moving the story forward again, but until it is officially announced, this is just conjecture.

I do hope that you find this informative, decker2.

How the hell did you pull off 50 spirit?
W-W-W-WHAT???

Dude, what the fuck? How?
Easy mode still allows for an investment of stat points in Spirit. This used to be possible on higher difficulties like Normal in earlier builds but is now limited to Easy. Minimizing your stats and putting everything into Spirit on character creation, investing in all of the Spirit perks from events and leveling up, and equipping all of the Spirit accessories like 3 Heart Runes and the Blessed Cock Ring would build quite a fair amount of Spirit.

I do hope that this is an adequate answer to your questions, Kaftein and Teleiah.

What type of relationship will you have with Venefica? Will it be just an expansion of her pay pig content? Or will she act similar to how she acts with the charm cookies? Or will it orientate around the Masochist/Sadist content?
The relationship content with Venefica will likely be independent of her other content routes like being her "familiar" or her findom content. It could expand upon these of course, but this sounds like it will be more affection than anything. Of course, with Venefica being affectionate, it will still likely have her being more in charge than anything given her more dominant nature. It probably will not quite be like her under the influence of the honeymoon candies given that inspires and takes affection up to incredible heights, but her being romantic and loving could likely be somewhere in the middle between how she usually is and how she acts while influenced by said candies. She may try to hide it, but underneath that calm, cool exterior she likes to project is someone who is quite passionate and can easily find joy in her areas of interest, much like the look of sheer joy with sparkly eyes she'll show, and promptly try to hide when noticed, while the player is looking at the various candies on display.

I could be incorrect of course, but I do hope that you find this speculation a satisfactory answer for the moment, Nixi~.

i thought this game was supposed to have fun erotic gameplay but it seems like once you get to the second dungeon you cant get passed the blue door literally not possible to fight hte adons every single room maybe fix this please game doesnt seem fun or balanced
It sounds like you're having difficulties with the encounters on the Willpower (Blue) side of the Will-Power Temple due to the number of fights encountered such as down the long hallway. If so, it is possible you're underleveled, your build needs a little refinement with regards to how points are spent and possibly also buying new skills to use in battle, or you may need to stock up on items to recover in-between fights. For example, if you have 20 Willpower, you can learn Meditate to address potential Energy concerns while using Calm Mind, or Cleanse Lust if you are level 25, to heal yourself during battle without needing to use items. Of course, you do not have to fight every generic enemy or group you encounter and can decide to Run from battles instead.

Alternatively, you could invest in Calming Potions and Energy Potions to heal after every fight, or Mini-Elixirs if you are more flush with Eros to spend. After a fight in the Will-Power Temple, you can just open your menu, such as right-clicking if on PC, clicking on Character, then on the Inventory tab if you do not already have it selected, then the Consumables tab if it is not already open, and then finally clicking on the item you want or need to use to recover after a fight. Fighting Kunoichi Trainees also present free opportunities to heal your Arousal as it is safe to have sex with them after winning the fight, just take whichever you prefer out of the options presented and go again if you want the Kunoichi Trainee in question to submit and start calling you master. You could also tackle the Power (Red) side of the Will-Power Temple first if you have not done so already in order to level up a little more and familiarize yourself with the attacks, resistances, immunities, and weaknesses of the common enemies of the Temple.

More specific advice would likely depend on exactly what type of build you are pursuing and what skills you have been learning to fight with, but for the Temple you should at least be around level 20 to get started, give or take a few levels.

I do hope that you find this at least a little helpful and if I misinterpreted your problem, then apologies, Beaniedude.

As for development news, just bug fixing and typo correcting has been occurring so far although there have been two other notable changes. Firstly, if you load a save in Town but are not in the Town Square, an internal change will only allow you to leave the location but you can return to the location afterwards and interact with everything as you normally would. A side effect of this should help make certain that saves update before trying to interact with anything and potentially causing bugs. The other change is a simple QoL change in that 20 pages of saves will now be easily accessible, up from the 9 current pages that can be readily accessed.

While this is not much, I do hope that everyone finds this at least a little useful.
 

Nixi~

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The relationship content with Venefica will likely be independent of her other content routes like being her "familiar" or her findom content. It could expand upon these of course, but this sounds like it will be more affection than anything. Of course, with Venefica being affectionate, it will still likely have her being more in charge than anything given her more dominant nature. It probably will not quite be like her under the influence of the honeymoon candies given that inspires and takes affection up to incredible heights, but her being romantic and loving could likely be somewhere in the middle between how she usually is and how she acts while influenced by said candies. She may try to hide it, but underneath that calm, cool exterior she likes to project is someone who is quite passionate and can easily find joy in her areas of interest, much like the look of sheer joy with sparkly eyes she'll show, and promptly try to hide when noticed, while the player is looking at the various candies on display.

I could be incorrect of course, but I do hope that you find this speculation a satisfactory answer for the moment, Nixi~.
I hope the more I wyrm myself into her heart the more honest she feels she can be around the player. I hope that doesn't sound too cheesy hehe.
 
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