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I think the numbers are a lot lower, though yeah harems would boost it significantly. First of all, the only humans going to the continent are adventurers, guild staff, and some minimum of support for stuff like shelter, food, and supplies. To the world outside the monster continent, it's a dangerous place so common people aren't really lining up to visit for now. In particular, adventurers are people that are learned; they go to an adventurer school that also has a tuition so that further limits how many people are able to go. Altogether, that already drastically cuts down on available human mates. I don't know the gender ratio of adventurers but that would further cut down on mates as it seems women just get converted into monsters (we know of at least two such cases) and I'm not sure if they are considered viable interests if not converted anyway.
But even if violent takeover is objected to, there is non hostile ways to take over. For example, if the magic were to be further spread so it affected human lands as well. Humanity could be at risk of literally being fucked out of existence. Is it ever mentioned what the result of a human and monster girl pregnancy is? If human females aren't birthed (IE males are always human, females share the race of the mother), that becomes an issue kind of. I guess it'd result in some kind of human/monster girl symbiotic combined race (reminds me of that one planet from speaker for the dead). Actually, how do monster girls reproduce without humans? Is it some Sequel shit where they just magic a new one into existence?

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The problem is that you're looking too deep into this and expecting the game to have a fully fleshed scientific manual that answers every socio-geo-eco-political question that you asked. No piece of literature, no piece of religious or philosophical work that is of any substance can reach that level of detail where no further questions can be asked about it. And literature is a far cry from a hentai battlefuck game involving mongirls. The game itself doesn't take itself seriously, hence why teleportation is explained with quantum mechanics, and you're expecting concrete answers to socioeconomic issues?

And seriously, it's annoying to just see your reply thread be a list of questions. Why don't you speculate as to the reasons for why things are the way they are in MGD and cook up a theory? That's far more interesting than endless nitpicking.
 

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The problem is that you're looking too deep into this and expecting the game to have a fully fleshed scientific manual that answers every socio-geo-eco-political question that you asked. No piece of literature, no piece of religious or philosophical work that is of any substance can reach that level of detail where no further questions can be asked about it. And literature is a far cry from a hentai battlefuck game involving mongirls. The game itself doesn't take itself seriously, hence why teleportation is explained with quantum mechanics, and you're expecting concrete answers to socioeconomic issues?

And seriously, it's annoying to just see your reply thread be a list of questions. Why don't you speculate as to the reasons for why things are the way they are in MGD and cook up a theory? That's far more interesting than endless nitpicking.
Perhaps you're right, we might be taking things a bit too seriously. But let me clarify: when men like us set aside the curiosity about what it would be like to bed a monster girl, we don’t switch our brains off. Instead, we dig deeper. And when we truly look at the world these games present, it’s not all sweet fruit and fantasy, it’s a bitter realization, like biting into something sweet only to taste the spoil underneath.

That’s where the questions come from, driven not by nitpicking but by an innate sense of what it means to stand firm in the face of a challenge. If you found yourself in that situation, staring down a world that could spell the end of humanity, would you really entertain the thought of surrender? Unless you’ve got a death wish or are so weak-willed you’d fold under pressure—capitulation isn’t an option. And let’s be honest: there’s something innately exciting, even fun, about imagining how we’d rise to meet that kind of existential threat. It's the boyish charm we never lose, no matter how old we get, our imagination running wild, not just for the fantasy but for the fight.
 
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Perhaps you're right, we might be taking things a bit too seriously. But let me clarify: when men like us set aside the curiosity about what it would be like to bed a monster girl, we don’t switch our brains off. Instead, we dig deeper. And when we truly look at the world these games present, it’s not all sweet fruit and fantasy, it’s a bitter realization, like biting into something sweet only to taste the spoil underneath.

That’s where the questions come from, driven not by nitpicking but by an innate sense of what it means to stand firm in the face of a challenge. If you found yourself in that situation, staring down a world that could spell the end of humanity, would you really entertain the thought of surrender? Unless you’ve got a death wish or are so weak-willed you’d fold under pressure—capitulation isn’t an option. And let’s be honest: there’s something innately exciting, even fun, about imagining how we’d rise to meet that kind of existential threat. It's the boyish charm we never lose, no matter how old we get, our imagination running wild, not just for the fantasy but for the fight.
Damn, you feel way too personal about a game that's already not meant to be taken seriously. Like, chill dude! That's the main purpose of a laid back game like this, to relax!

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Trying not to be too antagonistic here, but these opinions don't mean anything, in terms of providing to the discussion
I mean, if you feel that way that's cool or whatever, but I think you kinda failed miserably in trying not to be antagonistic, because I've noticed not only here but in other threads, you tend to put a lot of stock in stuff that REALLY doesn't matter. Discussion is fine, but it feels as if you're trying to tell people that a silly porn game has bad writing and that it means anything at all, when it really doesn't. I don't think anyone's here for a pinnacle of storytelling fr, but that could just be me
 
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The problem is that you're looking too deep into this and expecting the game to have a fully fleshed scientific manual that answers every socio-geo-eco-political question that you asked. No piece of literature, no piece of religious or philosophical work that is of any substance can reach that level of detail where no further questions can be asked about it.
Maybe, but those works are already finished. This one isn't and to me that means now is the best time to find holes in it. If we're lucky, Threshold will come up with some convincing answers. I'm not holding my breath for it though. And neither are you judging by this:
And literature is a far cry from a hentai battlefuck game involving mongirls. The game itself doesn't take itself seriously, hence why teleportation is explained with quantum mechanics, and you're expecting concrete answers to socioeconomic issues?
"It's just a game". Sorry but I like the games I play, porn or not, to be held to some kind of standard. MGD passes it but that doesn't mean it can't be better than it is currently and I'm hope it will be in the future.
And seriously, it's annoying to just see your reply thread be a list of questions. Why don't you speculate as to the reasons for why things are the way they are in MGD and cook up a theory? That's far more interesting than endless nitpicking.
Well if you actually read the posts I do answer some of my own questions. The leftovers are invitations to reply, thus creating discussion. Just look at the last page or so. Actual posts about the world of MGD instead of the development of MGD (not that that topic doesn't also deserve discussion but after seeing it devolve into the same thing like 3 times in a week or whatever, I think it's better to give that a rest for now). I don't why you do but if you feel that is annoying, then find the ignore button. You can keep enjoying your relaxed experience and I'll keep doing my own thing.
 
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Apart from the sexy girls and porn, something that I really appreciate about this game is the succubus girl who gets progressively stronger the more you defeat her. It's nice to have a moving goalpost to chase after.

Also, the wyrm is cute. I'd love to break her dolls and see her cry. It's a shame we don't see her again after she has a hissyfit.
 
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Apparently comparing people who complain that a game with GOR has GOR (Game-Over Rape) to people who whine about NTR games having NTR is "rude" and "disrespectful." Not sure how, but alright.

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I mean, if you feel that way that's cool or whatever, but I think you kinda failed miserably in trying not to be antagonistic, because I've noticed not only here but in other threads, you tend to put a lot of stock in stuff that REALLY doesn't matter. Discussion is fine, but it feels as if you're trying to tell people that a silly porn game has bad writing and that it means anything at all, when it really doesn't. I don't think anyone's here for a pinnacle of storytelling fr, but that could just be me
Try going two pages back before you join a discussion. There are at least 3 people praising the writing as some pinnacle of authorship.
 
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Try going two pages back before you join a discussion. There are at least 3 people praising the writing as some pinnacle of authorship.
I didn't see any comment that says that, I think that's just stuff you're assuming. And even if someone DID truly think that this game was some Dante-esque masterpiece of storytelling, who even cares dude? You interact with the girls, or don't interact with the girls, and move on with your life. People be on here writing whole thesis statements on why they don't like a porn game. So much energy wasted on something that, again, does NOT matter.
 

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I didn't see any comment that says that, I think that's just stuff you're assuming. And even if someone DID truly think that this game was some Dante-esque masterpiece of storytelling, who even cares dude? You interact with the girls, or don't interact with the girls, and move on with your life. People be on here writing whole thesis statements on why they don't like a porn game. So much energy wasted on something that, again, does NOT matter.
I think you're making things up given the current discussion is on what the barrier does and does not prevent and if it's actually as good an idea in-universe as it has been proposed to be. You're welcome to join the discussion, but respectfully, if you can't even keep up and insist on this charade, do it elsewhere. You're not making any meaningful contribution and are an active nuisance.
 

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I didn't see any comment that says that, I think that's just stuff you're assuming. And even if someone DID truly think that this game was some Dante-esque masterpiece of storytelling, who even cares dude? You interact with the girls, or don't interact with the girls, and move on with your life. People be on here writing whole thesis statements on why they don't like a porn game. So much energy wasted on something that, again, does NOT matter.
I don't think anyone here said they don't like the game?
 

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Peace won't happen as-is. As stated above, Sofia is the closest thing we (currently) have to a monster "submitting" to some form of Human law, and she's clearly biding her time and saving energy. The next down is Ancilla, then Kotone, and whoever else before you get to the "feral" population of Elves, ghosts, matangos, etc. Since Sofia is our measuring stick, you're putting a lot of stock into forced segregation having any impact. You're not actually forcing them to do anything. You've created an environment where a lot of the strongest ones will represent the rest on the world stage until you tear down the wall, at which point they'll almost immediately start up the conflict again with a new toolkit.
Well, let me clarify something upfront: I don’t believe segregation in the sense of integrating monster girls into human cities, where they live on one side and humans on the other, would ever work. That’s an illusion of coexistence, not a solution. Realistically, segregation would only function if they had their own nation and we had ours. And that model isn’t impossible, humanity itself is proof of that. We’re one species cohabiting this planet across countless nations, languages, and cultures, maintaining sovereignty while respecting boundaries. That’s the ideal I’d aim for.

But let me be perfectly clear, these are my views if coexistence is genuinely on the table. If it’s not, and they refuse to respect human sovereignty, then there is no middle ground. In such a case, I would advocate for all-out war. And under those conditions, I would only spare monster girls who are defeated by us and submit entirely to human law. By that, I mean humanity establishes an empire, and any who survive are integrated into it under our terms, living by the rules we decree. Refuse those terms? Then their end is inevitable.

Now, I don’t actually believe most species could or would submit to human law. Realistically, I’d say maybe 10%—more likely 1%—of all species would even be capable of it, with only a few individual exceptions beyond that. Hopefully, that clears up my views on the situation. My stance is far grimmer than most people seem to realize.

This isn’t about hatred or cruelty, it’s about survival. A peaceful coexistence is only viable if both sides respect the boundaries and laws required to maintain it. Without that respect, it’s nothing more than a prelude to conflict. Humanity cannot afford to be naive about this. If the time comes to fight, it won’t be out of malice, but necessity. And we will fight with purpose, ensuring that what remains is a world where humanity not only survives but thrives.
 
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First off, let’s address the obvious: it’s hard to win a war when your most lethal attacks amount to little more than a tickle. The spell preventing lethal combat is, without question, a problem if you aim to claim a decisive victory. It’s not a resolution—it’s a forced armistice, a ceasefire held together by magic rather than mutual understanding. Your analogy to sewing a dieter’s mouth shut is apt, but only in the sense that it prevents immediate harm without addressing deeper issues. That’s why this ceasefire presents an opportunity, not for sunshines and rainbows, as you so flippantly suggest, but for dialogue. If the dialogue fails, the solution is simple: bring down the spell and let the war resume in earnest.

Now, let’s address your larger point. You speak as though I’ve chosen to overlook the dangers and darkness of this world. That’s not the case. I’m under no illusions about the monstrous nature of many of these beings or the centuries of atrocities committed. I don’t avert my eyes, I calculate the risks. The spell doesn’t erase their desires or capacity for harm, and I’d never assume otherwise. But it does provide a unique opportunity to assess those who might submit to human law and those who won’t. To fail to explore that option before resorting to total annihilation is not strength; it’s recklessness.

As for your warnings about the capital and beyond, I’ve heard them loud and clear. Proper caution is warranted, and I’ll take it. But caution doesn’t mean closing the door entirely on coexistence where it’s feasible. And make no mistake: should these monsters prove irredeemable, should their desires outweigh any possibility of coexistence, I will be the first to advocate for breaking the spell and returning to war. Mercy has its limits, but it is not weakness to offer it where it is deserved.

Finally, let’s dispense with this notion that I approach this media with an 'expectation of innocence.' That’s your assumption, not my perspective. Innocence isn’t my concern, peace and humanity’s survival are. If peace can be achieved through dialogue and submission to human law, I’ll take it. If not, then I’ll bring the war to their doorstep with every ounce of strength I possess. It’s as simple as that.
Fair points, It just felt to me like you were ignoring some things, glad that's cleared up though



yhea thats problems for most monster girl games which dose not really have any easy solutions.
like point of 90% of game is that monster girls are better then human woman its just time game at that point
It's a question that's never going to me answered, or maybe it seemply goes with that, human woman are just extinct, or have a marginally lower population. MG porn games aren't going to address these since i guess people don't care, you play a mg game to fuck exotic looking women, who cares about the real ones at that point? World building is definitely the weakest aspect of all porn games, a famous example is the unintentional dystopia of nekopara.

Indeed. Even if monster girls could produce normal, healthy human sons, the long-term consequences remain dire. Over time, human women could face extinction if human males no longer needed them to reproduce. Combine that with the fact that monster girls are often stronger, faster, and in many cases even more capable than human men, and the societal and cultural impact becomes devastating. The power imbalance alone could lead to a world where humanity is subjugated, viewed as pets rather than equals. Such an outcome would be intolerable, an affront to humanity’s sovereignty and survival. This is not just a matter of biology; it’s a battle for our very identity as a species.
I'm fairly sure there already have been games like that. I can't name any since they mostly dissappear from my mind, but alot og MG games tend to be on the femdom leaning side than otherwise, though not that there is no maledom.
This is due to those specific natural advantages they have, often leaving them in the dominant position, making humanity either be subjicated as you said, or just exist in very small tribes where they hide as far away from mg as they can.
I think mgq kinda did this? Illias Kreuz raises concern over their strength and natural violence afaik, and to the average person, mg seem to be a big deal. A literal slime appearing in a village causes quite a stir.

there are couple of solutions that can technically work.
best one i would say is segregation something like what is happening to MGD world. monster girl live in there own separate territory and human migration is very limited and controlled
This is true, but clearly not the intention of high authorities. Adventurers are intentionally being sent to the island with debt, who invented this scheme? I said previously I think it's Venerae, other choices could include pro monster factions in the human world we are yet aware of the MG and DQ herself through infiltration of human high command.

And seriously, it's annoying to just see your reply thread be a list of questions. Why don't you speculate as to the reasons for why things are the way they are in MGD and cook up a theory? That's far more interesting than endless nitpicking.
MGD isn't a game that's theory worthy, not in a "I'm not wasting my time on that" kind of sense, but rather that it just doesn't have enough content to make a theory on.
What makes a good theory would be a ration of 60-80% evidence and support the rest with healthy speculation. A game which is 'theory worthy' would be one that's cryptic, reveals alot yet nothing at the same time, constantly leaves simply crumbs for you to find, leaving you to connect the rest. MGD clearly isn't this in the slightest, even the theoriess you could make (conspiracy behind the adventurer guild, venerae's true intentions, who really casted the barrier, who corrupted perpetua and venefica and what are their goals) leaves you.... you guessed it, just questions. First you quesstion, then you theorize, but there's just not enough evidence to even form a theory, and this is jut the result of amateur writing along with thresh not even wanting to make a game like that.


I mean, to change your shape and sustain that change without going Gojo (keeping your power on 24/7) would require some genetic modifications in itself, albeit not on the level of pouring chocolate milk from your own tits. Actually, it would be similar enough. Even something as "mild" as making one's tits bigger is introducing several pounds of fat and previously non-existent weight. Your body is now being told to account for your chest having expanded and at least a few inches more where blood and muscle must travel to sustain. That's a lot deeper than surface-level stuff.

Honestly, when you examine the introduction of an entirely new race a la Venefica and imply their version of body modification is exclusive while also having the magics for body mods exist already, the writing doesn't stand up to scrutiny, which is what it now needs to do. The witches can just be hyper-competent due to excessive exposure and thusly their comprehension of moderate- to high-level magics is that much more advanced to where they naturally lactate a caramel macchiato on command. You just can't expect that an entirely new branch of magic is discovered by an exclusive group and then in the first exposure to it, have the PC/Reader be met with just an evolved form of an existing ability.
I don't disagree per say, but I find Venefica's enhancements more impressive, Vili's boobs are very magical in nature, they literally tempt you and hypnotize you just by existing. It's not as if Vili is specifically casting that magic to make you focus on her boos, no, her boobs ARE literally made up of hypnosis magic. Not to mention how she can easily change her size absolutely zero pain, think about it, she's adding and removing fat while not affecting the structural integrity. That's why I think Vili's body modification in particular is closer to magical than physical, yes you can touch them, but if Vili was completely drained of mana i think that her tits would go with it (I'm completely aware that this is just a wild guess, but that's how i see it). Though complete mana drain tends to kill people, so what would having smaller tits matter at that point.
This is clearly different from Venefica, she can't change her fur color like it's a color wheel, it's a deeper more sophisticated process to change her nature at her core.
Naturally, other beings could do it too, we have little comparisons to draw as the only high tiers on Venefica's level is Sofia, and even then we haven't seen her do a transformation like that, she can only reveal her wings, change her clothes and get a bunch of sick tattoos. We'd need more transformation content to draw a conclusion, not a personal fan, but seems it's popular

I mean, if you feel that way that's cool or whatever, but I think you kinda failed miserably in trying not to be antagonistic, because I've noticed not only here but in other threads, you tend to put a lot of stock in stuff that REALLY doesn't matter. Discussion is fine, but it feels as if you're trying to tell people that a silly porn game has bad writing and that it means anything at all, when it really doesn't. I don't think anyone's here for a pinnacle of storytelling fr, but that could just be me
That so? Well I did say I'd try.
Though I'm not sure I agree about other threads, the only places I complain or discuss like this are games with relevant stories, much more than mgd mind you.

I didn't see any comment that says that, I think that's just stuff you're assuming. And even if someone DID truly think that this game was some Dante-esque masterpiece of storytelling, who even cares dude? You interact with the girls, or don't interact with the girls, and move on with your life. People be on here writing whole thesis statements on why they don't like a porn game. So much energy wasted on something that, again, does NOT matter.
Holding games to a higher standard almost seems illegal here, I'm not expecting life changing writing here, just something decent.
I said in my previous post that just because this iss a porn game or a simple story doesn't disqualify it from criticism, that won't change for me or anyone critical of the game.

I don't think anyone here said they don't like the game?
Oh yeah, I'll be first then, I used to like the game, not anymore though, the more I think about it the lesser I think of it.
 

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That's quite the discussion going on... while the story isn't something crazy it's still got enough intrigue found in character interactions, such as with Kotone, Belle, or Venefica.

I think that's the optimal route they can do while they just continue on the main plot which is literally the current demon queen fucking around until humanity came to Lucidia to end her, spooking her so bad she put up the sex only no violence barrier in fear.
 
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I feel like some scenario's are supposed to be simplified in nature for a specific purpose, meaning trying to apply too much real life logic is a wasted effort, as these scenario's were not created with the goal of making a compelling and believable world to immerse yourself in even after applying critical thinking and questioning much of it. Monster girl games are generally made to get off, usually by masochists, they are almost always bare bones, superficial, intentionally not fleshing out various parts of the world and various concepts unless it can be tied into fetish stuff somehow.

MGD is particularly lazy/simple in that regard, I feel like I can really recreate the developers thinking process when designing the concept.

- "So I hate death and permanent slavery game overs, how about I make my monster girls too nice for that, would enable follow up scenes, progressing relationships, lets go."
-"hmm, now they all are too nice, doesn't scratch the masochist itch if they are all nice and understanding with no edge and no danger to it. How about I make some of them more brutal and sadistic but I find a way to avoid game overs. Yes, magic barrier and shit preventing death and bloodshed, will do for now as a placeholder. Gotta avoid the permanent slavery still though, yeah, like someone could come in and save the mc, maybe a worker of the guild, or a friendly character."
- "Nah fuck that, too many extra interactions, can't just be one character due to overexposure, also I never planned to do much with the debt concept anyway. How about bribing them monster girls instead, taking some mc money or items after raping him to avoid game over, nice, let's try it."
-"Ugh, balancing a money and item managment around this sucks, also this is almost findom now, not to mention how it does not make sense for the more cruel girls to go for it anyway. Fuck that, how about... (insert 2-3 more failed concept attempts.)
- "alright, enough, I wasted too much time on this. Magic automated teleport book back to base after arbitrary amount of times getting raped. Why doesn't it teleport the mc back right after he runs out of hp to avoid violent rape if it can do that kind of thing? Fuck you thats why, gotta get raped somehow, take it or leave it."

MGD is the most generic overall adventure concept, "go and beat monster lord", and then a bunch of placeholder concept added as a bare bones foundation to enable the dev to do what he enjoys far more than designing such things, which is to implement and write characters and character interactions for the time being, until there is enough demand to rework the placeholders and deliver something more solid. Then he put it out there, placeholder concepts and all, and people ate it right up, most of them not minding it having such a weak foundation even for monster girl game standards, so there was never any reason to fix the foundation.

In short, I feel like deeper discussions about this game in particular are a wasted effort, as the effort put in you can justify to discuss more lore and world building around a world should, at most, mirror the effort that was required designing it, which in this case is almost zero, as that is simply not what the developer chose to focus on.
 
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I think that's the optimal route they can do while they just continue on the main plot which is literally the current demon queen fucking around until humanity came to Lucidia to end her, spooking her so bad she put up the sex only no violence barrier in fear.
If the Demon Queen were spooked, then she probably wouldn’t have set up a continent spanning horny obstacle course that should, eventually, put a high level hero right on her doorstep. And if humanity, or at least the guild, are serious about defeating the Demon Queen, why are they intentionally training their would-be-heroes wrong?

I dunno. Seems more likely for the plot to reveal that both sides of the equation are actually in cahoots. Jury’s out on whether its a genuine cooperation for presumably convoluted reasons, or if all the decision making guild members have been aggressively courted by monster girls.
 
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