Ren'Py Monster Girl Dreams [v26.8a Alpha] [Threshold]

[Valentin Cognito]

I'm going to be honest, while I do get that video game development is hard (My career has me go into several different creative trades to begin with) so This isn't my first rodeo, but there comes a point where you gotta ask what is the end goal and is it something in sight or even obtainable within reason. it's one of the main reasons you tend to see a lot of """"doomposting"""" especially on this site. Some people really do need the "uuhhhhh you try this yourself" while others even after a long ass hiatus with tempered expectations, and hell years of new experiences and that delightful dosage of perspective come back and barely seeing growth of the fields and wonder where all that time has gone, what have you been waiting for, and what is that bigger picture.

Perspective goes both ways.

And that's totally understandable! My point was that I would argue it is definitely not the case with MGD, what with content being released on a regular basis and being quite consistent across time (whether from an update point of view, a lore point of view, a fetish point of view, etc.).

We're all woefully familiar with games that get lost in the sauce, or which feel like they don't even have much of a direction to begin with. And similarly, we're familiar with cash grab games, which don't have much going for them except for some appealing assets, and which want to entice you into subbing to support development without then delivering tangible results.

But MGD is going strong and has been doing so for a long time now, and the dev has always been active and responsive, whether on Patreon, Discord, or here. I believe the only hiatus that the game has ever undergone was when the dev suffered from burnout after overdoing it on the Venefica content.

Heck, MGD is and has always been free, with support being completely voluntary, so if the game is actually a ploy to milk Patreon cows, it's quite the 4D chess one.

 

[blufalcon]

My understanding is that people are frustrated because the Capital isn't done yet. But its moving along, with movement infrastructure shaping up and a few scenes that change depending on the time of day variable. A lot of new content that gets added is for previous areas/enemies, and some people are the types of players that might not bother going back to view them and only want the new latest area. Personally I don't get why people would get mad at new scenes and CGs being added in to the earlier biomes because it helps flesh out the game and the game world. Anything added to Ceris or Venefica is a good update in my book, because I like them a lot.

 

[Phenir]

Anything added to Ceris or Venefica is a good update in my book, because I like them a lot.

You don't see how this statement sounds kind of silly? Of course you like more Ceris and Venefica being added if you like those characters. That's obvious. Anyone that likes those two would be overjoyed. But it should also be obvious that moving forward with the story is content for everyone, instead of content for only people who like a given character. I don't particularly care for Ceris so any update that just has more content for her is essentially not an update at all for me.

 

[blufalcon]

You don't see how this statement sounds kind of silly? Of course you like more Ceris and Venefica being added if you like those characters. That's obvious. Anyone that likes those two would be overjoyed. But it should also be obvious that moving forward with the story is content for everyone, instead of content for only people who like a given character. I don't particularly care for Ceris so any update that just has more content for her is essentially not an update at all for me.

I only said those two as an example and as a personal thing about me. If you read patch notes, there have been scenes added to way more characters, both named characters and generic mob types (like Harpy getting a new CG recently). Also I could argue your point and say that if the new capital update for some reason only had imps in it then it wouldn't count as an update for me because I don't like them, right? but new content is still new content, no matter where it's placed.

I could see the argument in that like, people want to see new characters because they got bored of the others, I guess?
Or maybe people just want to collect more sigils, but the sigils are just mcguffins, so the actual content is the new characters that guard the new sigils, along with any associated lore. But new characters and lore can be added to other areas as well (like Vili being added to the Forest biome). A new update that gives you a sigil unlocks a new area that you can't even go to yet because it won't be in the game, and if people complain about that, then what happens? If for some reason the dev decided to just speedrun to an ending, I bet it would feel barebones and lame and people would bitch. I think all this fleshing out of prior areas, adding more scenes and more art, is important to the overall product. That's not to say that new areas and characters aren't important either, but making characters that aren't just "generic monstergirl enemy" is hard and takes time, the dev is working on new while also adding to the old. I think it's fine.

edit: also I know sigils also typically do things like expand Amber's shop and unlock more things to do in prior areas, but that only helps my point, its still new content in prior areas, like Sofia fight difficulty unlocks and stuff.

 

[Absurdity]

Is this game in the final phase now? Is the capital the final location?

 

[Valentin Cognito]

You don't see how this statement sounds kind of silly? Of course you like more Ceris and Venefica being added if you like those characters. That's obvious. Anyone that likes those two would be overjoyed. But it should also be obvious that moving forward with the story is content for everyone, instead of content for only people who like a given character. I don't particularly care for Ceris so any update that just has more content for her is essentially not an update at all for me.

The main story is obviously important, but as blufalcon pointed out, so is fleshing out the rest of the game. Obviously, if the content added doesn't match your preferences, then the update will have less for you to sink your teeth into, but it's still content that other people will (hopefully) enjoy nonetheless.

You could even argue that for people who just play H games to yank their crank, story content doesn't hold much appeal, and the meat of the game is more sex scenes.

Is this game in the final phase now? Is the capital the final location?

The game is still very much in development. The Capital is in the process of being developed, and will have a lot of content, but it's not the final location. Other major locations are to come.

Nonetheless, MGD has quite a lot of content even now, and any save you make will be compatible with future versions of the game, so if you're interested in the game, I would definitely encourage you to give it a shot if you haven't already.

 

[Phenir]

I only said those two as an example and as a personal thing about me. If you read patch notes, there have been scenes added to way more characters, both named characters and generic mob types (like Harpy getting a new CG recently). Also I could argue your point and say that if the new capital update for some reason only had imps in it then it wouldn't count as an update for me because I don't like them, right? but new content is still new content, no matter where it's placed.

I could see the argument in that like, people want to see new characters because they got bored of the others, I guess?
Or maybe people just want to collect more sigils, but the sigils are just mcguffins, so the actual content is the new characters that guard the new sigils, along with any associated lore. But new characters and lore can be added to other areas as well (like Vili being added to the Forest biome). A new update that gives you a sigil unlocks a new area that you can't even go to yet because it won't be in the game, and if people complain about that, then what happens? If for some reason the dev decided to just speedrun to an ending, I bet it would feel barebones and lame and people would bitch. I think all this fleshing out of prior areas, adding more scenes and more art, is important to the overall product. That's not to say that new areas and characters aren't important either, but making characters that aren't just "generic monstergirl enemy" is hard and takes time, the dev is working on new while also adding to the old. I think it's fine.

edit: also I know sigils also typically do things like expand Amber's shop and unlock more things to do in prior areas, but that only helps my point, its still new content in prior areas, like Sofia fight difficulty unlocks and stuff.

I only used those two because you used them. You could replace them with any other character and the point would still stand because it's not about any specific character since the demerit is relative to the person, not the character.
Moving the story forward doesn't just include sex scenes, it also includes progression of a person's own character and the main story, and world building. This is content that anyone can enjoy and that is why priority should be given to it instead of prior areas.
As to your edit, that doesn't help your point because that new content is locked behind moving the story forward in the first place! It can't even exist without the story.

The main story is obviously important, but as blufalcon pointed out, so is fleshing out the rest of the game. Obviously, if the content added doesn't match your preferences, then the update will have less for you to sink your teeth into, but it's still content that other people will (hopefully) enjoy nonetheless.

You could even argue that for people who just play H games to yank their crank, story content doesn't hold much appeal, and the meat of the game is more sex scenes.

People who just want to fap are irrelevant to the discussion because they'll be happy regardless of what happens; they get scenes either way. So no, I wouldn't argue that.

 

[blufalcon]

alright well no point discussing it anymore.
I believe new content added anywhere is good and you just want new areas and that's just how it is.

 

[Yetanotheruser9191]

I wish there was a way for us who don't use discord to get our hands on the discord mods. Sounds like I'm missing out on a lot.

 

[Absurdity]

The game is still very much in development. The Capital is in the process of being developed, and will have a lot of content, but it's not the final location. Other major locations are to come.

Nonetheless, MGD has quite a lot of content even now, and any save you make will be compatible with future versions of the game, so if you're interested in the game, I would definitely encourage you to give it a shot if you haven't already.

Yeah I already play it I was just curious. On one hand I really like this game and it's good there is still a lot more content to come. But on the other I'm not really sure if we will ever see a proper ending to this game if the capital isn't it. But it's all good.