FruitSmoothie

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Dude, grow up and stop with the bad faith shit. You actively ignore everything in my messages that gives context for what I'm saying just to try to find shit to argue about. Accept we have different opinions and definitions of shit and move along. Yes, we are operating under different definitions, that should have been clear immediately. Notice how often I say "I feel", notice how I start off by asking if there are more sub relationships in the future (Implying I hadn't cleared the entire game yet). You're not going to convince me that shit I don't think is maledom is maledom, you can stop now.

You're also not going to convince me the game has a 50/50 split between femdom and maledom, that's just plain objectively false atm. You yourself even gave off some examples of sub content that there is no maledom versions for "Oh, there's really only two MC slave events...", so where's the female slave events? If you can't see how unbalanced the game is content wise atm, your eyes are clouded.

Oh, I remember you now from your abandoned femdom game, the way you're acting makes a lot more sense now.
 
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TheUnsaid

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Wait...Venefica doesn't really have a relationship?
You can work for her as a milking pet and she gets a progressive debuff that can advance to "love" but there's no real realtionship content.
I argue differently since during her fight, the difficulty changes depending on how much you progress her relationship.

That being said, it's not on the same level of explicitness as Jora, Kotone or Feng.
Dude, grow up and stop with the bad faith shit. You actively ignore everything in my messages that gives context for what I'm saying just to try to find shit to argue about.
No I'm not. I literally quote post you. I don't leave out anything you're saying.

You're the one besmirching the game and giving people inaccurate expectations I think.
Accept we have different opinions and definitions of shit and move along. Yes, we are operating under different definitions, that should have been clear immediately. You're not going to convince me that shit I don't think is maledom is maledom.
Nah... we're both using the same words. When you're complaining about stuff using the same words everyone else is, that's not obvious. But yeah, if you don't think it is then it isn't. I feel the same.
You're also not going to convince me the game has a 50/50 split, that's just plain objectively false atm. You yourself even gave off some examples of sub content that there is no maledom versions for "Oh, there's really only two MC slave events...", so where's the female slave events?
Wait... does it have to be on the same level for you? For every 1 heavier femdom scene there has to be 1 heavy maledom scene? I'm just counting 1 to 1.

Ushris' slave content is just... she sits on your face and gives you a thighjob. Venefica's is a job where she pays you for saving up cum for her. On the other hand Beris the Hellhound wants to be tied up and raped. Tabitha the bat trips and you can take advantage of her on her ass.
If you can't see how unbalanced the game is content wise atm, your eyes are clouded.
You said 90%. I said that's ridiculous and it's more like 50/50.

Considering the nature of the game with though, I'm willing to admit it might be slightly unbalanced in the female assertive direction. Like 60/40, but it's nowhere near 90% femdom, and you're giving out incorrect assumptions to new people who might be interested in the game.

Oh, I remember you now from your abandoned femdom game, the way you're acting makes a lot more sense now.
I haven't abandoned it no matter what this site says but if you take it that way go ahead. It's my passion project in which I make no money from after all.
And I don't know who you are. Where's your game?
 

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As someone who would prefer that the game be 100% femdom, it feels to me like there is significantly more maledom than femdom present. I'm not interested in your argument, but it's fascinating how the same material can lead to such disparate perspectives.
 
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FruitSmoothie

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As someone who would prefer that the game be 100% femdom, it feels to me like there is significantly more maledom than femdom present. I'm not interested in your argument, but it's fascinating how the same material can lead to such disparate perspectives.
At least you're honest about your bias and seem to be able to separate your feelings from objective fact, lol. I wonder if some people are just ignoring that there are 2-3 loss scenes for most enemies, and most the traps are femdom/helpless MC stuff. Most of us don't unintentionally lose often (or ever) or fall to traps, so it makes it seem like a lot of that content doesn't exist I suppose? That's the only way I could almost understand people's "equal femdom/maledom" view. We generally win in the game, so we see the maledom options more after combat even though there's very little of it compared to the femdom. I figured the people into femdom would intentionally lose to see scenes though, but maybe I'm wrong.

TLDR: A lot of the femdom/loss type stuff is "hidden" from view and the victory stuff isn't. Out of sight, out of mind maybe?

One of the best 50/50 games I can recall is like Corruption of Champions. They handled both sides really well if I remember right. It's been years since I've played, but I remember it being pretty good for everybody's tastes. Heard the sequel went off the rails in a lot of ways though, lol.
 
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Master of Puppets

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Considering the nature of the game with though, I'm willing to admit it might be slightly unbalanced in the female assertive direction. Like 60/40, but it's nowhere near 90% femdom, and you're giving out incorrect assumptions to new people who might be interested in the game.
Based on a quick scan of the game files, it appears to be about 22/78 in terms of win/loss scenes. Just how accurate that is, I can't say though.
 

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One of the best 50/50 games I can recall is like Corruption of Champions. They handled both sides really well if I remember right. It's been years since I've played, but I remember it being pretty good for everybody's tastes. Heard the sequel went off the rails in a lot of ways though, lol.
Honestly, if you think there's too much femdom in MGD, yeah, you really shouldn't try CoC2
 

TheUnsaid

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Based on a quick scan of the game files, it appears to be about 22/78 in terms of win/loss scenes. Just how accurate that is, I can't say though.
I don't think it's right to just view the adult content in terms of direct events.

Combat itself is also the sexual content.
It's why Mika says she's a switch, and specifically says, if you want to lead then ask to Spar. If you ask for sex on its own, she'll just ride you. Unless you progress your relationship enough, then you can choose vaginal and mating press her into a mess. But yeah, it's fight her to lead, and the anal reverse cowgirl event on its own would be the female assertive scene.

Not all events are in terms of winning and losing scenes either.
There are consensual events in the game and they're all over the place. Like most of the Inn scenes, and the romance scenes. For instance, you can bend Trisha the lesser succubus over a table and rail her instead of eating her poisoned food, and stay dominant the whole time.

And there are also enemies like Alraune, and Matango that have a strong preference for their partner leading. They don't initiate anything, but do temptation. You go and ram them for their pleasure.

Of course this goes both ways.
There are non-combat events that are female assertive as well.

I'm just saying if you take the experience of the game as a whole, it's pretty ridiculous to consider this game 90% femdom. Due to the content it elevates playing naturally, it has quite the strong maledom feeling if you choose them of course. Beating and domming every girl you come across, then assaulting the girls who want more after you're done winning.

I argue the best maledom doggystyle in the game isn't even in an event.
It's Ceris' temptation doggy event that happens in her battle.
 

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Your example is wrong. If you pass the trap you can then attack both elves, and start a battle.
There are also traps that make the MC lead like the gas traps from matango.
Whats wrong with that example? :p

MC passes a trap, hot elves near you get trapped in their own trap (laid out to attack the MC) and MC can either cut them down with a (figuratively) headpat and go without anything kinky happening or keep them hanging and go without anything kinky happening.

The only two options given are what I'd expect as afterthought options given if a player might not be in the mood to fool around with two hot elves. Bound in their own trap. Meant for the player. For lewd purposes.
 
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Whats wrong with that example? :p

MC passes a trap, hot elves near you get trapped in their own trap (laid out to attack the MC) and MC can either cut them down with a (figuratively) headpat and go without anything kinky happening or keep them hanging and go without anything kinky happening.

The only two options given are what I'd expect as afterthought options given if a player might not be in the mood to fool around with two hot elves. Bound in their own trap. Meant for the player. For lewd purposes.
I think you missed the convo.

The other guy was complaining that the game had like no maledom and was using that as an example. Saying something about how you couldn't do anything if you passed the trap, when the truth is, you can pass the trap and fuck them afterward.
 

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I've seen the dev floating around here in the thread, so I've got a little bit of faith that they could just be going through something or have no creative spark currently. Or they could not care much now. Who knows
 

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I think you missed the convo.

The other guy was complaining that the game had like no maledom and was using that as an example. Saying something about how you couldn't do anything if you passed the trap, when the truth is, you can pass the trap and fuck them afterward.
We are talking different things here. I was not questioning the stuff he might be wrong about. Just agreeing to a thing I noticed as well. You do as you say with the passing reflex check; but not with passing the int check. That one that lets them get caught in their own trap:

TheIntCheckOne.jpg
 

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I guess somebody already report that, but the game is acting painfully slow after some point
Can such thing be fixed or am I doing smth wrong?
As I can see it's because of files refreshment any time something new coming on screen
Battles with imp den literally freeze the game for a few seconds from action to action
Character sheet also suffers greatly
Are you on mobile? :unsure:
There have been optimization improvements a bit ago which should have in theory fixed most of that.
Though there might be other factors too.

Also, is there a way to feed witch pastries to Vili? :3
I would really like to add that at some point.


Also also, I really want an option to fight Kotone after all the troubles with her personal challenge
I would also like to give her a fight at some point, but I do not know if it would be under the terms you would want?


is skip button broken? or is it supposed to just skip everything even stuff you did not read before
MGD bypasses a lot of Renpy's functionality for making the game mod compatible.


Does Threshold give any indication of things being worked on on the Discord? I used to sub on patreon up until a couple years ago but stopped and it really looks like it was the right decision because there's been almost nothing added to the game since then.
Ye I do, and I would say that would definitely depend on what you define as 'nothing' added to the game given the changelogs and cont.

I hope there's an option to organize the inventory eventually, at least for consumables. It's all over the place in my save.
It's on the todo list for the near future.


I just checked out Dark Perpetua's fight in the Labyrinth and lost on purpose, to see how was the game over scene like, to see what was all the fuss of "perma-death" about... but given it was a simulation, it took me back to the church.
It only does that on the first encounter because story things.
W-Would you prefer if it did still bad end?


While reading the wiki I stumbled upon " The currently unnamed Demon Commander who presides over the Sigil of Luck makes her lair in the Capital's Casino. Himika says she is a "queen" of some description, but Mizuko cuts her off before she can elaborate. They also note she holds much money and power, and that she does logistics for the Demon Queen. "

Why do I think of Stella when i read this
I mean she does hold money and power and for logistics if she has multiple bags she can move stuff aaround through them

so I can totally see Stella be the sigil of luck commander :O

How close am I ??
It is a mystery. <3


We're really in need of new stuff, aren't we?
Smol update this month due to 2 weeks of fam things, but next month it is the intention for a content focused update.


Game is progressing at snail pace for six years
Whut?
You must not have been here the entire time then. Given the assorted issues that did lead into the eventual slow downs.

there is zero indication of a deadline
Well my prior thoughts for when I'd be done were very far off the mark apparently, so I haven't really tried to figure out how long the overall project will take given how dang big this thing is.


clear goals (already forgot what the main quest even was) etc.
I know exactly the end goal of the main story and side content, and there is foreshadowing in the game for a number of things that have been there for a long time.
If you forgot where things are going though that's not exactly my fault?


Probably tiny updates every few months for the next years until developer quits.
The last 3 months have each had an update with a myriad of different things, and while QoL focused they are still important updates, there was also both the Beris CG and Imp CGs showing I needed new infrastructure for them to even work correctly, that I then added for their respective updates, and will have far less related issues moving forward.
I have 0 intention of quitting, I have the fullest of intentions to finish this project.

I've seen the dev floating around here in the thread, so I've got a little bit of faith that they could just be going through something or have no creative spark currently. Or they could not care much now. Who knows
Hello, I am floating by. : D
But ye as mentioned in other reply, many QoL things kind of needed to happen last three months, but there have been consistent updates, and while this upcoming update will also be fairly small, I had family stuff to attend to for a while, next month will be content focused.
 
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