Yeah nah... words have meaning.
yes, they do. only as much meaning as we agree to give them, but they do. i never said they didn't, and i don't know where you got that from. all i said was that they have
different meanings to
different people
I don't disagree with this btw, but the fact that you wrote, that the definition was basically in "flux" from your earlier statement sounds to me like you don't think there's a consensus on the definitions.
i don't think it's that there's "no consensus". i think that there are multiple consensuses by multiple people, and as time goes on, they'll shift. whether new or old, they'll sprout up, die out, be remembered, be forgotten, and all of that stuff. but no matter what they do, they'll never be the exact same forever, because that just isn't how language works.
Literally any slightly friendly LGBT spaces I've been in like E621 communities, or the BeatBanger discord, or wtv, would no-brain give the same definition TheUnsaid and I did.
Just because subs on the internet are the most terminally online and annoying people on the planet and want to be called bottoms even though they won't take it up the ass doesn't change that.
and when did i ever state that it should change your definition, or the definition of the other people you mentioned? the answer is, again, i never said that. you are arguing with a ghost.
just because someone else has a different definition than you, does it automatically make them wrong for not thinking the same as you?
in that case, why aren't you the wrong one for not thinking the same as them?
is it just because more people think like you rather than like them? if there are still people who agree with them, but they're a lesser amount than those who agree with you, does that invalidate those people entirely?
the answer is that neither of you are wrong, and neither of you are right, because it's entirely subjective. words are subjective, language is subjective,
this whole post is subjective.
i'm not trying to deny your experiences or anything here, but the thing is, i'm speaking on
my experiences. those can't be denied either. as i said,
these are the various ways of how i've seen it used, and to the people who've used it whatever way they used it, that's their definition of it.
and as an afterword:
subs on the internet are the most terminally online and annoying people on the planet
as a sub who is on the internet, the truth hurts sometimes and you don't always need to say it
though unlike the aforementioned "subs on the internet" i AM somewhat interested in anal stuff. but i don't think anyone is here specifically to hear about my kinks nor my sexual experiences, so... i don't think we need to go into detail on that.