RPGM Completed Monster Girl Quest: Paradox [Part 3 v3.01] [Torotoro Resistance]

[Sarojin]

7 years we waited 7 years ,also everyone already choose who to lose once Part 3 comes?

I'm def going monster world first as my choice, I also need to eventually get around to playing the angel route as well as the loop event.

Also keep in mind that yes we'll have waited 7+ years for the game, but then unless you want to go raw japanese/MTL, we've gotta wait awhile for the translation. This is the biggest chapter for them yet, meaning god knows how much text.

 

[Noah Neim]

7 years we waited 7 years ,also everyone already choose who to lose once Part 3 comes?

neither, fuck the entire paradox world, hell, no one in it seems to care about it either, im going full chaos

 

[FrenzyGhoul]

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I don't need to say anything else, just check it.

My translator don´t work, but does that mean for what everyone waiting for?

 

[odoto]

I'm def going monster world first as my choice, I also need to eventually get around to playing the angel route as well as the loop event.

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[Sarojin]

Agreed, the monster world seems the... Least fucked of the two? Like it very much still has problems, but its more of a "might makes right" world and that can be used to try and steer it into a more equal direction? As opposed to the Angel world which is just fucked all around, you can't even say a bad thing against Ilias without getting smited- the only thing they have going for them is that their method of getting people to their world is more humane? But that doesn't really matter since the world itself is a nightmare.
Which does suck, because I went with Ilias for my first playthrough and felt like she was actually warming up to Monsters and starting to question her beliefs, only to side with a version of herself that is the worst qualities of her in every way is kinda sad.

Spoiler: Angels in chapter 2 I believe?

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[wae1029]

7 years we waited 7 years ,also everyone already choose who to lose once Part 3 comes?

Unless they take away my new game plus characters which logically should have no interaction with the great choice I'm going to side with Alice first. My Alice file has most of my builds and grinding. I might make a save just before to see if there is anything noteworthy from swapping sides. I have seen some people talk about possible perma death of companions which I might very well hate.

 

[NachoFriesAreBack]

holy macrafuckroni its happening! I was literally just now doing a third play through and now this happens?! i think im going to finish my current playthrough on the translated version before switching over to chapter 3, good luck everyone else!

 

[Noah Neim]

Agreed, the monster world seems the... Least fucked of the two? Like it very much still has problems, but its more of a "might makes right" world and that can be used to try and steer it into a more equal direction? As opposed to the Angel world which is just fucked all around, you can't even say a bad thing against Ilias without getting smited- the only thing they have going for them is that their method of getting people to their world is more humane? But that doesn't really matter since the world itself is a nightmare.
Which does suck, because I went with Ilias for my first playthrough and felt like she was actually warming up to Monsters and starting to question her beliefs, only to side with a version of herself that is the worst qualities of her in every way is kinda sad.

Well that whole town in chapter 2 if I'm remembering right, it might have been near the end of 1, I think it's 2 though. Literally brainwashed the whole town, very similar in plot point to another game I can think of near the end. It's the whole, humans can't help but be evil, even though there's lots of good people who don't commit evil. So because they "could" commit evil, we'll just tell them how to think, everything's at peace! Everyone's a robot, but ehhhh who cares!, PEACE!

Are you 2 casually forgetting about the fact that Alice I will literally kill and slaughter several worlds then splice their soul into one being? As if that can't go wrong, both worlds are equally fucked, give up your free will, or become an abomination and possible lose your 'self'
Though speaking of the monster world, reminder that you'd live in a monster supremacy world, however masochistic you could be, you wouldn't be dommed by sexy monster mommies, but raped, tortured then being killed doesnt sound like a good fater

 

[NachoFriesAreBack]

yeah honestly although you would be controlled in the illias world, you would at least be happy, hopefully... i really don't understand how humans would ever survive in the monster world as without regulation of illias, the human men would probably all just prefer monsters over human women especially since they are easier and more 'skilled'. also you have to get merced to go there where they will merge souls and memories (this process resurrects also apparently because how would the succubus sisters come back to life in the paradox world?). and tons of monsters are maneaters so in reality it seems unfeasible for humanity to survive in the monster world, maybe the reason that the monster world is going to such extreme measures (killing oneself to come back to life in another world) is to steal the humans from the paradox world as most of their humans are already dead?

but humanity aside, there is also the fact that the monster world probably won't accept angels and the illias world won't accept monsters(there probably wouldn't be enough to do so anyways) so people still do die no matter what you choose. honestly both sides are really fucked but unless there is a route where we don't have to do either and still make things okay (something to do with judgement luka probably) then the best possible outcome would be to have as many humans go to the illias world and have the rest go to the monster world or live in the paradox world.

 

[odoto]

Are you 2 casually forgetting about the fact that Alice I will literally kill and slaughter several worlds then splice their soul into one being? As if that can't go wrong, both worlds are equally fucked, give up your free will, or become an abomination and possible lose your 'self'
Though speaking of the monster world, reminder that you'd live in a monster supremacy world, however masochistic you could be, you wouldn't be dommed by sexy monster mommies, but raped, tortured then being killed doesnt sound like a good fater

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[Sarojin]

Are you 2 casually forgetting about the fact that Alice I will literally kill and slaughter several worlds then splice their soul into one being? As if that can't go wrong, both worlds are equally fucked, give up your free will, or become an abomination and possible lose your 'self'
Though speaking of the monster world, reminder that you'd live in a monster supremacy world, however masochistic you could be, you wouldn't be dommed by sexy monster mommies, but raped, tortured then being killed doesnt sound like a good fater

I was mainly commenting on as I've discussed man, the lesser of two evils. They're both bad, never said they weren't, but you have to choose one as far as I know, no third option, and if there is, I'd assume you've had to beat both routes then go again to unlock it. No idea.

I did not forget about the angel stuff believe me, that was ingrained in me. You especially don't forget about that, when you have one of the most banger final boss themes:

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[Senya_boy]

So I came here to post about something totally different (and arguably only tangentially on topic), and I'll still come around to posting about it at some point probably, but...

Yooooooooo, what absolutely exciting news to happen to stumble on! I actually check the Arzor-X blog relatively regularly to see if there's any update, so it's kind of funny that I happen to find out about this when I'm not even actively looking for it, but that just makes me that much more amped. Gotta try to burn off some of the excitement by posting about it, though, since I know I'm going to have to go back to ignoring this thread like crazy while I wait for the translation.

I worry a little about being overly dramatic, but honestly I figure I'm probably not alone in feeling like this is legitimately kind of meaningful for me. Like, I'm not going to say the original MGQ got me into porn games (I'll date myself a bit by saying I grew up on smutty flash games on Newgrounds), but it *was* one of the first, if not the first, 'real' game in the genre that I played; and what a history its had from there! Paradox finally being complete is really going to feel like the end of an era in a way, almost feels surreal.

Do folk have any thoughts about if / when they're going to replay the existing parts? I'm a little torn on if I want to do that some time in advance of the (translated) release, to refresh my memory (and kill some of the waiting time) and be ready to jump into the new material right away, or if I'd rather hold off and just start a fresh play-through and go all the way through from start to finish once it releases.

 

[Tannin00]

I don't understand japanese, but... the fact that the official images of the announcement show characters from the 3 routes indicates that we will have the 3 routes available at launch, right?

(In addition to the fact that on the cover of the chapter they clearly show the 3 factions presented and each one respectively with their small previews of some [I hope] of their scenes).

To which, I really want to see how the route of the original children and the father of chaos will be implemented. Since (I haven't played the demo, I didn't want any spoilers until launch, so sorry if I'm talking too much) I imagine that after the events that occur in the monster lord's castle, Luka and company will be invited or forced (plot) to go first to the world of light or darkness (depending on whether Alice or Ilias is chosen) and then to the other world but as enemies to finally reach an outcome that gives victory to one side.

Which makes me wonder, then, how is it that they organically implemented the fact that now, after 2 chapters of story, Brynhild is now starting to take center stage and above all, what is the reason why Nero and Neris, who were doing their thing and only supporting from the shadows, now become main actors along with the spirit of chaos and Brinhild's sister?

Also, what really calls my attention is the comment at the end of the post that says that... apart from the fact that it´s obviously impossible to give an estimate of how long the experience lasts, it says that changes and additions were added to the second playthrough. Which makes me wonder, will there be more endings than just light, darkness and chaos (ordered or controlled)?

Also, since it is obviously impossible for anyone to hold back the urge to play (it happened to me when part 3 of the original saga was released) apart from mtool, is there any other way to translate or get to understand the story? The thing is, in my case I don't want to repeat the mistake I made with the original part 3, since I don't understand that part of the story very well because I never understood what was really happening, beyond what was shown visually.

 

[NachoFriesAreBack]

So I came here to post about something totally different (and arguably only tangentially on topic), and I'll still come around to posting about it at some point probably, but...

Yooooooooo, what absolutely exciting news to happen to stumble on! I actually check the Arzor-X blog relatively regularly to see if there's any update, so it's kind of funny that I happen to find out about this when I'm not even actively looking for it, but that just makes me that much more amped. Gotta try to burn off some of the excitement by posting about it, though, since I know I'm going to have to go back to ignoring this thread like crazy while I wait for the translation.

I worry a little about being overly dramatic, but honestly I figure I'm probably not alone in feeling like this is legitimately kind of meaningful for me. Like, I'm not going to say the original MGQ got me into porn games (I'll date myself a bit by saying I grew up on smutty flash games on Newgrounds), but it *was* one of the first, if not the first, 'real' game in the genre that I played; and what a history its had from there! Paradox finally being complete is really going to feel like the end of an era in a way, almost feels surreal.

Do folk have any thoughts about if / when they're going to replay the existing parts? I'm a little torn on if I want to do that some time in advance of the (translated) release, to refresh my memory (and kill some of the waiting time) and be ready to jump into the new material right away, or if I'd rather hold off and just start a fresh play-through and go all the way through from start to finish once it releases.

what do you mean by 'replay' existing parts?

 

[NachoFriesAreBack]

I don't understand japanese, but... the fact that the official images of the announcement show characters from the 3 routes indicates that we will have the 3 routes available at launch, right?

(In addition to the fact that on the cover of the chapter they clearly show the 3 factions presented and each one respectively with their small previews of some [I hope] of their scenes).

To which, I really want to see how the route of the original children and the father of chaos will be implemented. Since (I haven't played the demo, I didn't want any spoilers until launch, so sorry if I'm talking too much) I imagine that after the events that occur in the monster lord's castle, Luka and company will be invited or forced (plot) to go first to the world of light or darkness (depending on whether Alice or Ilias is chosen) and then to the other world but as enemies to finally reach an outcome that gives victory to one side.

Which makes me wonder, then, how is it that they organically implemented the fact that now, after 2 chapters of story, Brynhild is now starting to take center stage and above all, what is the reason why Nero and Neris, who were doing their thing and only supporting from the shadows, now become main actors along with the spirit of chaos and Brinhild's sister?

Also, what really calls my attention is the comment at the end of the post that says that... apart from the fact that it´s obviously impossible to give an estimate of how long the experience lasts, it says that changes and additions were added to the second playthrough. Which makes me wonder, will there be more endings than just light, darkness and chaos (ordered or controlled)?

Also, since it is obviously impossible for anyone to hold back the urge to play (it happened to me when part 3 of the original saga was released) apart from mtool, is there any other way to translate or get to understand the story? The thing is, in my case I don't want to repeat the mistake I made with the original part 3, since I don't understand that part of the story very well because I never understood what was really happening, beyond what was shown visually.

I never ever heard about a chaos route, and if you're talking about the promotional image here then I'm pretty sure that's just showing the Dark world route characters, Light world route characters, and your neutral companions that stay with you no matter what. I'm not saying that there isn't a secret route or ending, especially with the weird stuff around White Rabbit, Judgement Luka, and the ending for choosing neither at the Great Decision, but I don't believe that another route has been official announced or endorsed. I do keep up the Azor-X Blog and sometimes the raw site but I'm not 1000% knowledgeable so I might be wrong, let me know if I am!

Also about your translation question, Mtool won't even work. The Part 3 Demo data text is 42 MB long, and the with the maximum tier of Mtool you can translate 50MB. Obviously the full release of Part 3 is going to skyrocket the data text size so Mtool is 100% out of the question.

 

[Senya_boy]

what do you mean by 'replay' existing parts?

Exactly that, replaying them, playing them again. Like obviously not everyone is in this position, but in my case I'm sure it's been at least a couple years (if not more; when did the Time Loop and the big multi-game cross-over stuff come out?) since I played. The major plot beats have done a surprisingly good job of staying in my memory, but I'm still going to want to go back through Parts 1 and 2 at some point prior to jumping into Part 3.

 

[OverCop]

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[Succubus Hunter]

dont use ai to translate it for the love of god, it needs human assistance every step of the way


Your 'goddess' literally rapes the hero, im not quite sure how pleasures of the flesh goes against the religion

I'm pretty sure if he asked her she would tell him her ara ara-ing him is perfectly blessed.

Oh if you think it gives bad results you should check some of them out, the ones where people actually put effort into it are almost indistinguishable from normal hand translations. But i'm assuming they're a lot faster to make which is why it would be nice here since there's like a book and a half worth of text to be translated.

I could not agree more. AI is an incredible tool for translating!

So I came here to post about something totally different (and arguably only tangentially on topic), and I'll still come around to posting about it at some point probably, but...

Yooooooooo, what absolutely exciting news to happen to stumble on! I actually check the Arzor-X blog relatively regularly to see if there's any update, so it's kind of funny that I happen to find out about this when I'm not even actively looking for it, but that just makes me that much more amped. Gotta try to burn off some of the excitement by posting about it, though, since I know I'm going to have to go back to ignoring this thread like crazy while I wait for the translation.

I worry a little about being overly dramatic, but honestly I figure I'm probably not alone in feeling like this is legitimately kind of meaningful for me. Like, I'm not going to say the original MGQ got me into porn games (I'll date myself a bit by saying I grew up on smutty flash games on Newgrounds), but it *was* one of the first, if not the first, 'real' game in the genre that I played; and what a history its had from there! Paradox finally being complete is really going to feel like the end of an era in a way, almost feels surreal.

Do folk have any thoughts about if / when they're going to replay the existing parts? I'm a little torn on if I want to do that some time in advance of the (translated) release, to refresh my memory (and kill some of the waiting time) and be ready to jump into the new material right away, or if I'd rather hold off and just start a fresh play-through and go all the way through from start to finish once it releases.

I remember Newgrounds, that is where I first saw dating sims, dress up games, and of course Stick Death!

 

[Faxot02]

Finally... it's been between 4 and 5 years that I've been waiting to play Part 3. I had never managed to go further than Sabasa at the time and it was in a version before Collaboration.

It's only recently that I've really invested myself and damn, the story is awesome. I can't wait to play the sequel.
Will there be a link for Part 3 here? In Japanese.

 

[Flash2314]

Can't wait to play it. AI translation has improved dramatically these past few months. I will play the AI translation version. Not gonna wait 3-4 years.