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Staimh

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I can't remember the name of the game but the MC is:
some self entitled bumbling incompetent
a serial cheat and liar (who casually leaves offsping dotted around the countryside)
offensively thinks of himself as having integrity and honesty
completely at ease bending any regulations for financial gain
... regulations I should point out that he happily tells everyone else they must adhere to
somehow ends up in charge of some nation or other

I mean how on earth a writer comes up with anything so unbelievable is beyond me
 
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Cynicaladm

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I can't remember the name of the game but the MC is:
some self entitled bumbling incompetent
a serial cheat and liar (who casually leaves offsping dotted around the countryside)
offensively thinks of himself as having integrity and honesty
completely at ease bending any regulations for financial gain
... regulations I should point out that he happily tells everyone else they must adhere to
somehow ends up in charge of some nation or other

I mean how on earth a writer comes up with anything so unbelievable is beyond me
you're describing every politician in the history of everything, lol
 

matschbirne

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every woman with a tower hairstyle... come on dev's the 80/90s are over and Katey Sagal looked a lot better without this thing these days. what a milf, harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:love:
 
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Sphere42

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For variety's sake: "dumb bitch"/"rape doll" female MCs. Just write a male MC and swap the genitals, it'll result in a better experience 11 times out of 10. Despite being the only one under your direct control by game mechanics they're usually your greatest enemy in terms of porn content and progression. Or maybe the games are just shoddily built, it's hard to tell sometimes whether you're supposed to be able to return to goblin alley and gangrape your way into slut mode or whether they simply forgot to add an "uh-oh, that place looks dark and scary, I shouldn't go there" blocker.
 

desmosome

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Now, answering the OP's question, while plain MC's are boring and uninteresting, forced LIs in non-rapey games are terrible. You can't say no to them even if you strongly dislike them! We get you like that kind of girl/man and think they are the finest life has to offer, Mr. Dev, but we don't have to agree.
I agree with most of your post, but this seems a bit contradictory. You threw shade on self insert kids, which I agreed with, but forced LIs would mostly be fine if you don't self insert. You may not like her personally, but the MC certainly does/did. If you want to role play as the MC, you should give him the benefit of doubt and try to go along with his natural choices as long as it is written reasonably.

Personally, I tend to like starting off with a gf/wife because cheating on the SO adds some extra depravity to whatever is happening. Sure, you could cheat on non-forced LIs, but this type of set up has a much lower likelihood of actually acknowledging that cheating is going on. Forced LI have a easier time writing around this relationship since it's a given. This is where the writing skills come in. If you can cheat/break up in a believable manner, that's great. If you are forced to be head over heels in love, but are able to freely pick cheating choices without any inner/outer conflict, that is just shitty. If the gf is some harem enabler, the game is doomed due to cringe 9 out of 10 times.
 
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Sphere42

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I agree with most of your post, but this seems a bit contradictory. You threw shade on self insert kids, which I agreed with, but forced LIs would mostly be fine if you don't self insert. You may not like her personally, but the MC certainly does/did. If you want to role play as the MC, you should give him the benefit of doubt and try to go along with his natural choices as long as it is written reasonably.
My issue in that regard is that forced LIs are not limited to linear or highly story-driven games. With those you pretty much know the amount and type of content are pre-assigned from the get-go, but a forced LI in a CYOA or sandbox-oriented game becomes a massive distraction and content sinkhole, often tied to mandatory grind or story in order to progress towards other parts of the game.

That and there's still a high chance the writing/gameplay options will be terrible either way. Like plenty of mainstream media a lot of plot/story/drama would implode if you just had any normal sensible choices offered to you.
 
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Malicre

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MC from intertwined (runs from any/all drama)
MC from FOTM (little cuck beta boy)
MC from SWM1/2 (dude is literally a rapist and the fanbase ignores it)

Yeah yeah go ahead and facepalm me, i welcome it.
 

desmosome

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Hmmm, I guess if I had to pick one, it would be the MC in midnight paradise. Dude has zero self awareness and not even in the comical way.
 

SpoiledPrince

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I agree with most of your post, but this seems a bit contradictory. You threw shade on self insert kids, which I agreed with, but forced LIs would mostly be fine if you don't self insert. You may not like her personally, but the MC certainly does/did. If you want to role play as the MC, you should give him the benefit of doubt and try to go along with his natural choices as long as it is written reasonably.

Personally, I tend to like starting off with a gf/wife because cheating on the SO adds some extra depravity to whatever is happening. Sure, you could cheat on non-forced LIs, but this type of set up has a much lower likelihood of actually acknowledging that cheating is going on. Forced LI have a easier time writing around this relationship since it's a given. This is where the writing skills come in. If you can cheat/break up in a believable manner, that's great. If you are forced to be head over heels in love, but are able to freely pick cheating choices without any inner/outer conflict, that is just shitty. If the gf is some harem enabler, the game is doomed due to cringe 9 out of 10 times.
It doesn't make sense for an MC played in a certain way to fall for some kind of LIs given their personality. It's bad writing and depriving players of options. Too linear. It feels like listening to a dear old friend speaking of the dumb cow he has fallen in lust with, ranting all day long about all the positive qualities his imagination has adorned her in his head (just because she has a huge rack).
He asks your opinion and you tell him "No, pal, she's neither intelligent, nor funny, or even bearable as a human being. You are just rationalizing the fact you would eat shit to touch her tits, and that's sad because you normally aren't this retarded"' But he still pursues the b.
You know he's headed for a trainwreck and can't do a thing to prevent it.

That's the option I want for my MCs: the ability to say NO. I want the character to stop and think that s/he maybe shouldn't nail people with chromosomes to spare. All that with an alternative that would still offer a satisfying story.
 
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desmosome

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It doesn't make sense for an MC played in a certain way to fall for some kind of LIs given their personality. It's bad writing and depriving players of options. Too linear. It feels like listening to a dear old friend speaking of the dumb cow he has fallen in lust with, ranting all day long about all the positive qualities his imagination has adorned her in his head (just because she has a huge rack).
He asks your opinion and you tell him "No, pal, she's neither intelligent, nor funny, or even bearable as a human being. You are just rationalizing the fact you would eat shit to touch her tits, and that's sad because you normally aren't this retarded"' But he still pursues the b.
You know he's headed for a trainwreck and can't do a thing to prevent it.

That's the option I want for my MCs: the ability to say NO. I want the character to stop and think that s/he maybe shouldn't nail people with chromosomes to spare. All that with an alternative that would still offer a satisfying story.
You can say that about anything in the script though. I don't want the MC to be some beta shithead. I don't want the MC to be some sleep raping rapist without any self awareness that he is a creep. I don't want the MC to be a horsecock teenager. I don't want the MC to be some liberal arts SJW. I don't want the MC to be some white knight simp. I don't want to MC to be lusting after their family members. I don't want the MC to be lusting after young students. And so it goes.

You can add some choices to affect these qualities of the MC, but there is a limit. Unlimited freedom to affect the story is unreasonable. I just consider forced LI and forced sex encounters the same way as I treat any other aspect of the script that cannot be changed. It is the story that the dev wants to tell. If I don't like it, the story just ain't for me and I can move on.

There is a tradeoff between streamlined storytelling and freedom of choice. Even the simple act of saying NO, can branch into a massive tree of possible game states. You either have to account for all the game states going down the line, or limit the script in a way that the decision was not important anyways. You get my drift?
 

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Billy.
The character you play in superpowered.
Only because of how hypocritical he is.
I want to be a hero.
Mind control's, rapes, blackmails, etc.
I love the game but by god above billy is stupid.
On the bright side i can justify everything billy does by him being a moron.
 

Cynicaladm

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ah.. also, schizophrenic MCs who think/are supposed to be good guys but spend half their "late night" time perving, taking pics, groping or wanking over their siblings, and this is never addressed... like it's never addressed how some characters "truly fall in love" with half a dozen LIs and each of these LIs is treated like the primary relationship and during the courtship it never even comes up in conversation or in thought for the MC that he's spreading himself thin or that he has to figure out how to deal with his feelings for multiple girls and how at least in part he's lying / cheating.. (not so much when the MC is a dick/player, but when he's the "good guy" who lives as if he were 5 different people, it becomes stupid). polyamory is never mentioned or thought about by the MC, or researched, those discussions are very rarely portrayed and usually rely on at least 1 or 2 female characters being blindly supportive of their MC for no discernible reason and beyond any kind of standard... and every other girl is oblivious or fine with it and doesn't need those conversations to be made... there are very few occasions where this situation is brought up and discussed in adequate fashion... so all of those MCs end up as total douchebags with a blank slate personality empowered by mildly more interesting women.
 

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Victoria, City of Broken Dreamers... I absolutely detest how well-written this character is! :cautious:
 

Bucketbot89

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I'm echoing everybody who mentioned forced love interests. Few things turn me off a character more than forcing them onto an MC.
The sister from My Sister, My Roommate
Quinn from Being a DIK
Kai Leng from ME 3
 

Pretentious Goblin

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I'm echoing everybody who mentioned forced love interests. Few things turn me off a character more than forcing them onto an MC.
The sister from My Sister, My Roommate
To be fair, you did choose to play a game with "my sister" in the title. That's like playing Hitman and being upset that killing is not optional. In a sandbox game, sure, it's a legitimate complaint.
 

Bucketbot89

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To be fair, you did choose to play a game with "my sister" in the title. That's like playing Hitman and being upset that killing is not optional. In a sandbox game, sure, it's a legitimate complaint.
My hatred of the sister character comes from her personality, attitude, and actions, not the fact that she is forced onto the player. Sorry if my post was confusing in that regard.
 

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Probably Hunter from Power Vacuum.

Don't get me wrong, the dude is hillarious, but his stupid grin really gets to me. Also, the girls seem to drop their panties for this Diabetic Deadpool wannabe, in a heartbeat, but with me it takes 2 weeks to get a kiss.