roland

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Jul 1, 2017
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hey
id like to start a longer story run in Sandboxmode, but after closing the Game and starting over the next Day the Game has Zero Memory what happend earlier.
Is there a Way to make the Game remember the Session bevor ?
 

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Lucid Intent

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Oct 25, 2017
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hey
id like to start a longer story run in Sandboxmode, but after closing the Game and starting over the next Day the Game has Zero Memory what happend earlier.
Is there a Way to make the Game remember the Session bevor ?
So this is possible, with a little tinkering.. If you enable messgae history the ai model will make a soft save of your general interactions in the scene every 10, 15.. Or however many prompts you set in the message history setting. This works similar to making a hard save using the save game function. The ai will never remember exatly, it will never save your session, if you want what happened before to be relevant you have to tell it. So a saved game, loaded history and if you have a Patreon code you can add a custom context to send to the ai every pose.

As it stands the game has no solid way to fully remember, perhaps in future there'll be a training ai model rather than a complete model. Maybe even outside of the game (interfacing with a locallly run ai) so that interactions are saved.

I'm sure I rambled and didn't help, if you want to natter more about the ways it can be done but wont properly work, I'm active in the game Discord.

:)
 

Junkbom

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Apr 10, 2017
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this is pretty cool with local ai now usable. mine tends to throw EOS token errors a lot for some reason though so looking forward to more progress. also some info on what local models are intended to be used? since many use different settings and there isn't many options to change in game? does the game use the default sampler and other settings from kobold, user settings, something else? Keep at it dev (y)
 

roland

Newbie
Jul 1, 2017
33
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thx for the answer
the message history thing is blocked, no PW > no Boosty, no Patreon, no Telegramm..........yeah im "not that young" :D
k, so have to wait to the "perhaps in future" and playing some short stories

last idea : we can download the log, maybe ... is there a way get that log back into the game, Like : hey AI read that, this happened last time

last but not least : great work with that really lewed Chat AI. It really tried to answer me in German...reading the outcome was ahm ^^

had lot of fun so far, even when things gone crazy on AI side


So this is possible, with a little tinkering.. If you enable messgae history the ai model will make a soft save of your general interactions in the scene every 10, 15.. Or however many prompts you set in the message history setting. This works similar to making a hard save using the save game function. The ai will never remember exatly, it will never save your session, if you want what happened before to be relevant you have to tell it. So a saved game, loaded history and if you have a Patreon code you can add a custom context to send to the ai every pose.

As it stands the game has no solid way to fully remember, perhaps in future there'll be a training ai model rather than a complete model. Maybe even outside of the game (interfacing with a locallly run ai) so that interactions are saved.

I'm sure I rambled and didn't help, if you want to natter more about the ways it can be done but wont properly work, I'm active in the game Discord.

:)
 

panalok

Newbie
Jul 1, 2017
53
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I've tried the game for a few days now. Mainly the sandbox AI role-play. I won't comment on the main game too much because that seems to be still in it's early stages. The characters look really nice though but I was kinda stuck with the poem questions.

Then I tried the sandbox feature using a gemini key and Ellie. It was really impressive to interact with the AI at first and let me tell you, she can get really pissed off if you tell her you don't like the sex with her. :oops:
The thing I noticed, even on the first try, is that the IA kept including sentence after sentence lecturing me about the importance of mutual understanding, trust and communication as a basis of a healthy relationship bla bla bla.
While that is probably all true I really don't want to be lectured during gameplay.

So I tried koboldcpp running a local "AI"(LLM) . And if you do that - and you know almost nothing about it, read the help section in game. It really helped me to get started.
From this point on you'll realize that each of these local LLMs can be very different. You really have to dig a little into the matter to get a better understanding. Some have huge hardware requirements and others will run on a mobile phone. Some are very lenient during chat others are very strict. Some like to verbose, others don't. Some are super slow and others very fast.

The point being: You have to find one that runs on your hardware and the chat is to your liking.

It's gets even better when you provide a custom context to the sandbox characters (Patreon only feature).
You can set a little scenario, or give the characters certain traits and the AI tries to incoperate all of it.
But all that depends largely on the chosen LLM. For exmple: You define character X as evil. Depending on the LLM that can mean character X destroys your sandcastle or kill you in your sleep. (exaggerated)

The biggest gripe I have so far is with AI context retention: During gameplay you can meet character A and half an hour later you ask the AI about charakter A and she might know nothing about that character. The longer you play the more context seems to be lost. This is not a fault of the game though. It depends largely on the LLM, the settings, and the underlying hardware that is used.

I'd be curious to know if anyone has tried image generation or speech synthesis/recognition yet.

If the author reads this: Is there a specific way how to structure a custom context?
 

roland

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Jul 1, 2017
33
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Poem : go to char screen > memories : theres 2 poem, copy/paste the 2nd and your good

"" ecturing me about the importance of mutual understanding, trust and communication as a basis of a healthy relationship bla bla bla. ""
dont look at there as an LI, dont copy RL into the game
Try something like : Fiona take a deep look into <player name > Eyes and she intant runs horny (sry, not english origin, i play in german)

i tried gemini, but it blocked too many ... ahm ... things ^^
im back to origin and have a lot of ... fun ... with the girls

didnt try murder, bdsm, futa, animal related
but as far as i can say, theres no no-go with the original AI....its even try to learn german
 
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inansah

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Aug 3, 2023
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I don't know why I'm so clumsy. I have no idea what API keys and passwords are. I just can't do it. I did a bit of research and saw that they are paid, and apparently, I shouldn't share them with anyone. How do you play this game? How does the ChatBot respond to you? Isn't it dangerous? I really want to play this game, but I have some concerns.
 
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I don't know why I'm so clumsy. I have no idea what API keys and passwords are. I just can't do it. I did a bit of research and saw that they are paid, and apparently, I shouldn't share them with anyone. How do you play this game? How does the ChatBot respond to you? Isn't it dangerous? I really want to play this game, but I have some concerns.
gemini has a free key, and groq service does too (but only weak models are free there). most others typically offer a free trial. in the game settings and help section are all links to obtain keys for each model,

if u don't trust large corporations, u can use local models via kobold – this way everything stays on your machine, no api key needed, and it's free. drawbacks of local models include inconvenience, some setup required, and u need a powerful machine with a graphics card (preferably nvidia). with large models via api – it's simpler, the only thing u need is to get an api key
 

Anther

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May 14, 2018
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gemini has a free key, and groq service does too (but only weak models are free there). most others typically offer a free trial. in the game settings and help section are all links to obtain keys for each model,

if u don't trust large corporations, u can use local models via kobold – this way everything stays on your machine, no api key needed, and it's free. drawbacks of local models include inconvenience, some setup required, and u need a powerful machine with a graphics card (preferably nvidia). with large models via api – it's simpler, the only thing u need is to get an api key
I played the game online with a gemini free key and a local with a kobold ccp installation. I had much more fun with kobold, but it depends heavily on the model you are using. The Moistral-11B-v3-f16 is my favorit at the moment, but it is big (20GB).

But two things bothered me about both variants. You are in the middle of a conversation and receive the answer to a question or ask a question yourself. You see the answer to your question for a fraction of a second, then the entire scenario changes without any warnings. This is very frustrating. It looks like these are fixed turning points within the game, but they totally destroy the flow of the game. I have changed all possible settings, but the result is always the same. I was really excited about the game at the beginning, but now I'm a bit disillusioned. Let's wait and see how it continues. Good luck anyway!
 
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linus.quotes

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This looks nice, but I can't play this at all, it freezes and lags all the time when the choices dialog appears... and it's not that my laptop can not handle it, the memory and processor consume it's not maxed up or something like that, but the game doesn't progress... =\
 

roland

Newbie
Jul 1, 2017
33
9
This looks nice, but I can't play this at all, it freezes and lags all the time when the choices dialog appears... and it's not that my laptop can not handle it, the memory and processor consume it's not maxed up or something like that, but the game doesn't progress... =\
Try
Stream mode : on
NVL Mode : off
Hints : off
Window mode : on
Cursor : boring arrow
Text Speed : max
Music : off
Darkmode : on
 

roland

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Jul 1, 2017
33
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fresh start
hmmm
new version looks like a mess, somehow
AI ignores Name change on Player : done > dumb user :rolleyes:
Body transitions are slowmo, like a fading (edit transitions start with something like a greenscreen for half of a second or so)
City name is Maltik
Laura > Lora, textwise
Fiona > Fionna, textwise
Dina > Dinah, textwise
Girls got haircolors change, textwise i.e. Dina got long brown hair at the gaming
in josies bedroom after player get the wi-fi password, Josie mentioned the noise player heard bevor she open door, player ask about the noise....> finns sitting in a corner training guitar

will try a new one after cleaning appdata
 
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TheSinner

Newbie
Jul 13, 2017
50
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This is an interesting game. I like that we can create whatever is happening, and the AI responds accordingly. The downside is that we never finish the actions. For example, I wrote essays [ XD ] describing what we are doing, and everything is working, but then it gets cut to something completely outside of what is happening. That is sad, but other than that good job.
 

roland

Newbie
Jul 1, 2017
33
9
This is an interesting game. I like that we can create whatever is happening, and the AI responds accordingly. The downside is that we never finish the actions. For example, I wrote essays [ XD ] describing what we are doing, and everything is working, but then it gets cut to something completely outside of what is happening. That is sad, but other than that good job.
Storymode or Sandbox ?
 

roland

Newbie
Jul 1, 2017
33
9
oookay, cleaned appdata, reinstalled the game

Fiona shows player his Room:

*Fiona opens the door to reveal a spacious room with a queen-sized bed against one wall, a desk and chair near the window, and a closet. The walls are painted a soft gray, and there's a carpeted floor. A small dresser sits in the corner, overflowing with clothes.* "Make yourself at home," Fiona says as she sets a backpack on the desk. The room has a cozy, lived-in feel, with a few posters on the walls and a couple of pillows scattered on the bed.It's obvious that another person, probably a girl, shares the room.abella's sweater lies draped over the back of the desk chair, and there's a hairbrush on the bedside table next to a pair of glasses.


Roland
pointing at the Girls stuff in the Room :" Ahm, theres a Girl already living in here?"
Fiona
*laughs* Yeah, there's the three of us. Joe, Dina, and me. We're like family, pretty much share everything. You won't mind, will you?*tosses your hair over your shoulder*
Roland
"Not at all, not at all. Sounds really intresting"
Fiona
..
ummm ^^
 
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