Trope95

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Hmm...In this image, I wonder if MC's ex-girl dyed her eye brows orange...same colour as her highlights? She looks to be a brunet by her roots, and it seems odd that a woman would dye their eye-brows to match her bright orange highlights.
She's a complicated model in the eyebrow department. She comes with two skins, one with brunette eyebrows and one without any eyebrows so you can attach fibermesh eyebrows in any color. The problem is that her fibermesh eyebrows look weird depending on the lightning, so in that (test) image, she had her skin with eyebrows AND her fibermesh. I'm still deciding if I like the resulting effect.
 
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Before I Forget

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I still don't understand how someone can let a review to dictate if he should play a game.
I don't or at least try not to but it's up to the individual ultimately. There's a lot of gaslighted games that are popular unjustly when their game isn't all that good. I can really blame newer Devs for wanting to have good reviews and I'm sure there's others doing it as well or using other methods to pad their good reviews.
 

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TropecitaGames, let me start by saying thank you for this game. I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to future updates. Good writing and a good dose of humor.

I also liked that you showed the other character's POV, perhaps much more than I usually see in other games. Not to mention that the side benefit of showing other character's POV is that it also allows you to show off their sexy bodies a lot more than if all scenes in the game were shown from male MC's POV only. ;)

Speaking of which, because of those additional POVs, we got to see those garden variety of bushes. ;) It is even more pleasing to see both red and blonde bushes, which are as rare as gold. You will be pleased to know that this game now have the honor to be added for the upcoming next edition of an index of games with female pubic hairs that I had published, last updated in December last year. :)

Another thing... you have really put good attention into details in terms of visuals that are not commonly found in most of adult VNs which is that you had these characters, particularly the female ones, change their clothing, their hairstyles, et cetera as appropriate for the scenes. Most games don't usually have characters change their hair and their clothing. Kudos to you on that! Also, I always liked that particular hairstyle that Daphne usually wore, the ponytail over the shoulder, especially in braided form. One of my favorite hairstyles, to be honest. I liked all girls and women in this game. ;)

By the way, regarding the clothing variety, I would suggest looking into adding necklaces and other accessories whenever appropriate. There is a certain erotic value to seeing necklace dangling against their boobs during the sex if you know what I mean. :devilish: Also! Don't forget garter belts and stockings for special occasions. :devilish:

It is very rare that I am convinced to become a Patron for a game due to my limited financial resources that I can only spare so much for games overall and this is it. You're welcome! :D Good luck with development and, again, I look forward to the future updates.
It's good to see someone who isn't freaking out over a woman's bush for once, variety is everything to me.
 

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Next time we can get a confirmation,that she is not just watching incest porn.
In v.0.1 you had confirmation that she has fantasies about the MC (her shower solo scene, and some thoughts later) sparked by her catching him in the shower.
In v.0.2 she kisses the MC because what happens in the club
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In v.0.3 MC catches her with incest porn on TV

Emma is the only character at home that the player hasn't have any menu to open the path with.
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In v.0.1 you had confirmation that she has fantasies about the MC (her shower solo scene, and some thoughts later) sparked by her catching him in the shower.
In v.0.2 she kisses the MC because what happens in the club
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I mean we know all that.
But in the future maybe MC can catch her playing with herself.
 

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// This dev is engaging in review manipulation. Please take the rating of the game with a grain of salt //

Why ??
 

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Next time we can get a confirmation,that she is not just watching incest porn.
In this update, near the end, we can already see that she ended up in that particular video because of her desires and fantasies, she was trying to find a way to explain it.
 
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Thank you for your offer, but I would hesitate to place a person using sign language as a primary means of communication for several reasons:
There is great difference between sign languages, even among English speakers there are, for example, ASL and BANZSL as non mutually intelligible variants (44% shared lexicon according to Wikipedia). Here in Spain we have LSE (Spanish Sign Language) and LSC (Catalan Sign Language) as official languages, and they don't share 100% of the lexicon either.
What sign language do my characters use, what does it add to the story, can anyone be offended if I make a mistake?
I worked 15 years ago in an organization for the blind that also supports deaf people here in Spain, and I know how important it is to give visibility to groups that do not usually appear in certain areas, but getting into such a diverse topic in different parts of the world, taking into account that my experience about the culture of deaf and blind people is only about their realities in Spain, I have too many chances to make a mistake that someone will feel bad about.
I understand, and honestly, I expected that. Still, like Hollywood movies, a visual novel, or at least a game, is not going to be 100% accurate. I kind of figured that you are not American. The one thing I am unclear on, though, is the setting/location for this story. Is it in North America? Europe? A fictional continent on fictional Earth-like planet.

By the way, if this is in fictional country on a fictional Earth-like planet, it might be possible to just create a fictional sign language for a future visual novel should you ever employ a deaf character who this time would use a sign language.

In any case, I am quite an understanding person for someone who is deaf. I understand that, sometimes, a work of arts will sometimes take a bit of creative license and will not be 100% accurate. Realism is important, yes, but not an overriding factor and you should not feel discouraged from trying this out. As I said before, I will help you out whatever I can if you ask. Just let me know, whenever you feel like it. :)

By the way, you are also correct about there being variants in sign language within Spain or the United States. In fact, there are cases of different signs used for same word across the regions. While I am born and raised in state of Kentucky, I spent couple years living in Texas a decade ago and I learned several signs used for some words that we do not use in Kentucky, at least not in the western part of the state I am from. Furthermore, American Sign Language (ASL) is not the only sign language used in the United States.

For the context, deaf people, like myself, have two different possible paths for primary and secondary education (pre-university) which was either state deaf school like Kentucky School for the Deaf in my state or be educated in a K-12 grade school with an interpreter. I went for the latter and that is partly a reason why I am relatively fluent in spoken English and writes fairly well, despite some weaknesses in grammar that stuck with me (generally those parts that emphasizes the sound such as preposition (a, an, et cetera)), as I had years of speech therapy there. It is also for this reason that I sign English, not ASL. Unlike ASL, whose grammar structure is different from written/spoken English (I suspect this might be due to the fact it was based on French Sign Language), signing English uses English grammar and also use prepositions such as the.

As such, there are quite a rich diversity in the sign languages in the United States and I would not expect otherwise in other countries so I am not really surprised when you mentioned the regional differences in Spain as far as sign languages are concerned.

That being said, I do not think you should feel discouraged when it comes down to using any sign language animations in a visual novel. In fact, I would encourage you to and, again, like I said, I will support you whatever I can in this area. I also extend my offer of support to any other developers interested in doing a visual novel that features a deaf character.

As one might expect, being educated in a non-deaf public school, where I was usually the sole deaf student there, and having met many deaf people outside the school, I am a person of two cultures, one deaf and one non-deaf. These kind of people are, to my knowledge, not particularly common, as I believe majority of the deaf Americans go to deaf school, though being educated in a non-deaf school is becoming more common lately as I understand it.

That being said, I have no regrets about being educated in a non-deaf public school. While it taught me to write and speak English relatively well, it came at a social cost because, well, obviously, most of my student peers are hearing and most of them do not know sign language. I did have friends but it was not exactly deep friendships considering the communications barriers. But, like I said, no regrets, as I felt that education there were far more important.

Speaking of the writing, the funny thing, though, is that when I spent a summer for a youth scholars program at Gallaudet University, the nation's (and possibly the world's) only university specifically created for the deaf students, in Washington, D.C., I was asked to review the writings for a project my assigned team were doing. Imagine my shock when I saw how radically different in grammar and writing than I was used to. It is not an exaggeration when I say that often it is hard for me to understand writings, be it on papers or in electronic messages, from many deaf people, especially if their education were fundamentally different from mine.

It is not that they are dumb or anything. It is just the way that their sign language are fundamentally structured but have an unfortunate consequence of being sometimes almost incomprehensible to anyone not used to the grammar structure of a sign language like ASL. And, unfortunately, that can present some communication barrier issues especially for the workplace where majority of workers are almost certainly going to be hearing ones.

Anyway, I got more to say but I think I should stop here. That is for another day. At any rate, indeed, deaf culture and the sign languages can be complicated but I would not worry too much. Again, you have my support whenever you feel like doing sign language animations. Sometimes, the only way we can make progress is by making mistakes and that is OK. It happens and it can be fixed. Don't sweat too much about it.
 

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rip MC good look, why every VN hate long hair so much, now it's like someone took a dump on his head :(
 
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I just played this version and was very disappointed,one tag says incest and so far nothing yet.Only has maybe 2 sex scenes(depends on choices) but not with Family.I wouldn't call the shower scene with aunt anything cause there's no sex just washing each other backs.So I'm just gonna wait a couple of updates see where this goes.
 

Robert Monotoli

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I just played this version and was very disappointed,one tag says incest and so far nothing yet.Only has maybe 2 sex scenes(depends on choices) but not with Family.I wouldn't call the shower scene with aunt anything cause there's no sex just washing each other backs.So I'm just gonna wait a couple of updates see where this goes.
Uh, just because a game is tagged Incest does not automatically mean it have a sex scene with family already. In fact, this is not the only game that had this tag on F95Zone and yet did not have a sex scene with a relative yet. I have seen this situation many times before. The list here will bear it out. As you can see, there are many incest games listed there that does not have gold colored tags indicating sex with that particular relative. This is not unusual. Sex with family is not mandatory for tagging incest per F95Zone tagging rules.
 
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