xapican

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Boy, what an ignorant response. I was quite clear in what i said. I specifically DID NOT want to be a jerk. I don't have to be into her to not be a jerk. There should always be a middle way. As you can see from the screenshot i shared in my previous post, a middle way was not offered. A woman with vitiligo shouldn't feel ashamed of herself, that doesn't mean I have to be attracted to her or tell her she should hide herself away.
No, not but consider this, Trope has Hispanic culture, and we are not so literal as people from the US, as I already said, the decision point is far more ahead.
 
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xapican

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This was my goal. Even if Trop doesn't agree with me, I imagine they want to hear respectful perspectives. And maybe even this particular scene has simply slipped by until now and they'll consider adding a middle way there.

I certainly do not want to insult. Just trying to participate in the discourse and offer another view on what to me felt like a pivotal scene.
Nah nevermind you just got hit by a philosophical stone, :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
consider it your initiation , it is either that or drink Wookie Ookies "Pinapple whiskey" :sick::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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Trope95

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I'm on my first playthrough still in season 1, and man, it would have been nice if there was a Kim path where I don't have to be an asshole but I also don't have to tell her I "love" her skin condition. I have no intention of pursuing a relationship with her because I do not find her attractive, but I also wouldn't be a dick and tell her that she should wear full body makeup all the time to hide her condition/be ashamed of herself. There really should have been a middle ground.

Not to mention that not going all in on her also causes you points with all the other starting students. From what i've read you want everything to be optional, but in this case it seems like you're punishing players for not going totally full harem. It makes it feel like not a choice.
I quote one of your posts, but I will answer every one of your points. I like this kind of feedback, it's discussion-inducing.

That scene is an important plot point for every one of the students, you are telling them that they can be themselves or what "society" expects from them; you are not telling them the MC is in love with (or interested in, or even liking) any of them. That's why it affects differently (RPs change) every one of the girls:
* Kim is obviously the most affected. You are either supporting her or insulting her, so the +10/-30. You are not saying you love her.
* Debbie is as self-conscious about her body as Kim is, so her RPs are the ones that change the most among the other students (+6/-10).
* Kate doesn't give a fuck about the MC's opinion of her, but she hates bullies and she's friendly (and sharing a room) with Kim (+4/-6).
* Lisa is the less affected (+2/-4). She is used to "society" having a say on what she can do or not, and to some people being harsh on her if she doesn't comply with what "society" expects from her.

A lot of interactions early on affect more than one girl, since they talk among themselves (or listen to the conversation) and they decide if the MC is friendly or an asshole. They don't have the advantage of having known him for years (like the closer family and friends including Megan, the Washingtons, and the Lambs) or seeing him act (like Alexia or Maddie). They need to form an opinion of him based on your choices. And they (especially Kate, Debbie, and Lisa) have a previous relationship, so leaning on Lisa will anger Kate, leaning on Debbie will please Lisa, and stopping Lisa's "posh-ness" will please both Debbie and Kate. Kim is the outsider, but she becomes friends with every one of them (or doesn't antagonize any of them, as shown in the conversation in Emma's room).

Note that the negative RPs are higher (in absolute value) than the positive ones. That makes sense since being supportive is "expected" and being a bully isn't. Oh, the irony! The girls don't want to "have to behave" as expected but they judge the MC for how he's expected to interact with them.

The conversation, when supporting her, goes by:
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Note the MC isn't flirting with her. He's saying "You could meet on the campus a new guy". That guy can't be him; she already met him. He said how he would feel if he were that guy (remember the MC has an aversion to lies). He says (being in that guy's shoes) "I love it (being that guy who is already dating Kim), but I would still feel like you lied to me." Kim gets excited about it, asks if he loves it, and it produces a possible misunderstanding (the MC is still in that guy's shoes) because he said something nice about her skin at the lake (he didn't say he loved it at the lake, thus the "I thought"). The MC ends it up with "If I dated someone like you". That doesn't mean he will be dating her.
He's talking in conditional: "If I dated someone like you", "I would still feel like you lied to me", "I know I would feel that way", etc.

Having a middle-ground choice would dilute one of My Dorm's main themes: "You are perfect as you are" (That doesn't mean the MC wants to fuck that perfectness). You can get the maximum RPs with any of the students (the only ones with RPs for obvious reasons) and not start a relationship with any of them. RPs are only about how THEY see the MC (friendly/unfriendly), not about how the player/MC sees them. So you need a minimum amount (+5) to have the chance to open a relationship with them, but you aren't forced to open it. On a side note, I love how eager some players are to open a relationship with Kim. Mandela effect here. They remember having opened the relationship with her already, and it hasn't happened yet. ;) . Losing those points with Lisa/Kate/Debbie isn't relationship-breaking if you are interested in them (if you don't behave like a jerk in the other interactions). Debbie can be somewhere between +44/-26 when the choice to open a relationship is shown, and Lisa +35/-11. Losing 10 or 4 points won't affect that choice showing.

I hope to have answered your points.
 

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Boy, what an ignorant response. I was quite clear in what i said. I specifically DID NOT want to be a jerk. I don't have to be into her to not be a jerk. There should always be a middle way. As you can see from the screenshot i shared in my previous post, a middle way was not offered. A woman with vitiligo shouldn't feel ashamed of herself, that doesn't mean I have to be attracted to her or tell her she should hide herself away.
Thank you.

Since my "ignorant" response made it clear that you know a LOT more than me about this game, the underlying philosophy that drives it, I thank you.

The middle way you asked for doesn't exist because that decision is meant to be divisive. You have a choice of being the jerk you've always dreamed to be, or a friendly and decent person that is showing new acquaintances that they can trust him.

That is not enough? You wanted a third way, to be consequences free, that wouldn't push you towards being friendly and respectful... Because you can only be kind and show respect when you are attracted to the person? WOW. And I'm the ignorant?

In case this didn't make itself clear from the get go, My Dorm is unapologetically a Harem game, not based on Dominance, but on Kindness. This means that players will ALWAYS be herded to the Full Harem. It is however possible to go and have any number of LI's, including Zero.

It is weird to see you complain about being called out for wanting to get consequences free options on a rather important issue, and to frame the non-existance of those options as a punishment. You didn't want to be a jerk? There was an option for that. Why does it sound that that is a punishment? Because in that option you have to be kind and gain friendship points with someone you aren't attracted to... something that you consider punishment. Clearly something that someone that doesn't want to be a jerk wants... :FacePalm:

Ignoramus OUT.

Peace :(
 

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I don't know about you but that definitely sounds like flirting to me. :)

I wish I was as smooth as MC is with the girls. Especially Daphne :love:.
If the MC were flirting with Kim, he would say "I think it's spectacular. If When I dated someone like you, I think I'dll spend my nights running my fingers over the map of her your skin."
 
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Am I the only one who thought they were in an episode of The Outer Limits for a split second? :LOL:
And the whole idea of a forum is to share these thoughts/ideas/personal feelings right?
In theory, yes.

In practice most threads longer than a few pages are a vipers nest of trolls and (occasionally overzealous 1746471547792.png ) ardent fans ready to throw hands at the merest soupçon of trollery. And then there are the mostly overbearing dicks :sneaky: who attack "thoughts/ideas/personal feelings" in any threads where their troll buddies have been previously humiliated for their stupidity.
I wish I was as smooth as MC is with the girls. Especially Daphne :love:.
Sod off - she's with ME! To quote JackMcDermott/Jesus from The Dream Team: Stay out of my psychosis!! :ROFLMAO:
 
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jerichodowns

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Ok, I'm a bit into season 2 now, meeting Aaron for the first time, and I definitely somehow missed something along the way. The MC just responded to Aaron, confirming that he was aware that his mom was really dead and I for sure never read that anywhere! There have been a few other conversation snippets where the MC seemed to imply they had knowledge I wasn't sure of, and just chalked it up to me misunderstanding the intent, but this one for sure doesn't make sense. I remember the encrypted email from Jamaal, and the 2 conversations MC has had with him about it. Then of course there was the altercation where they tried to make you sign over your shares. A few interactions with Amanda and Eva, though they don't reveal much of anything. So, I can't imagine where all this additional information supposedly came from. Does anyone recall where this extra clarity came from?
 

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Ok, I'm a bit into season 2 now, meeting Aaron for the first time, and I definitely somehow missed something along the way. The MC just responded to Aaron, confirming that he was aware that his mom was really dead and I for sure never read that anywhere! There have been a few other conversation snippets where the MC seemed to imply they had knowledge I wasn't sure of, and just chalked it up to me misunderstanding the intent, but this one for sure doesn't make sense. I remember the encrypted email from Jamaal, and the 2 conversations MC has had with him about it. Then of course there was the altercation where they tried to make you sign over your shares. A few interactions with Amanda and Eva, though they don't reveal much of anything. So, I can't imagine where all this additional information supposedly came from. Does anyone recall where this extra clarity came from?
Main menu, change the patch from "clones" to "family".
 

jerichodowns

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Main menu, change the patch from "clones" to "family".
Hmm, I've gone back to the main menu, but i'm not seeing anything like that. I've also poked around in the settings menus to see if its there. I see now, I've misunderstood things. I didn't realize that while the mod was no longer necessary, the family patch was still required. Ooph, i'll have quite a bit of skipping forward to do to get back to that conversation. Lol.
 
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jerichodowns

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Hmm, adding the empty patch.txt file to the game folder does not appear to have changed anything. Just skipped my way back to that interaction and MC still says that he knows his mother is dead.

I figured it out. Weird windows quirk, even though file extensions were on and all the other files looked normal, my patch file was showing up in the folder was patch.txt when it fact it was actually patch.txt.txt which was only visible after you open it.
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Yea, I editted my previous post. I had it patched wrong so the button wasn't showing up. For future reference "patch.txt.txt" does NOT work! ;)
I know you are joking, but it works with a file called "family", "patch", or "patched". Accepted extensions for those filenames are ".", ".rpy", ".rpyc", or ".txt".
Poor Riam didn't think in ".txt.txt" :ROFLMAO:
 
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