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Hey Trope95 loved the update didn't expect Betty to be such a NYMPHO of course I had to go for the baby :LOL: Kiara went up a few levels very nice. Sorry about the game being leaked :( out of respect I didn't download till my day and didn't have chance to play it till today, can't wait till the next one ;):)
Thanks, Wookie! I'm glad you enjoyed the update. I think Kiara climbed up some ranks for many players, and surprised a lot more. Betty had 40 years of pent up frustration to make up for ;)
 

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This game is always a learning experience. I've never heard of must (the drink) before.
That's because I don't think anyone actually serves it at a restaurant right or even drinks it? Must is freshly crushed grapes, including all the pulp and stems and shit, that gets used to make wine. Even for non-alcoholic purposes I would assume it would undergo further processing.
 

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That's because I don't think anyone actually serves it at a restaurant right or even drinks it? Must is freshly crushed grapes, including all the pulp and stems and shit, that gets used to make wine. Even for non-alcoholic purposes I would assume it would undergo further processing.
I would hope it would get at least strained before being served. I mean, it must, right? rimmy.gif
 

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That's because I don't think anyone actually serves it at a restaurant right or even drinks it? Must is freshly crushed grapes, including all the pulp and stems and shit, that gets used to make wine. Even for non-alcoholic purposes I would assume it would undergo further processing.
Sounds to me it might have been something else that has been translated to English in the wrong context.
 

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That's because I don't think anyone actually serves it at a restaurant right or even drinks it? Must is freshly crushed grapes, including all the pulp and stems and shit, that gets used to make wine. Even for non-alcoholic purposes I would assume it would undergo further processing.
There are festivitys in Germany involving must (Mostfest).
 

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That's because I don't think anyone actually serves it at a restaurant right or even drinks it? Must is freshly crushed grapes, including all the pulp and stems and shit, that gets used to make wine. Even for non-alcoholic purposes I would assume it would undergo further processing.
Depends where in the world you are. Here in Sweden Must is carbonated beer like (non alcoholic and almost as sweet as soda) (it's made to a degree on malt) beverage that we traditionally drink at christmas and easter
 

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Depends where in the world you are. Here in Sweden Must is carbonated beer like (non alcoholic and almost as sweet as soda) (it's made to a degree on malt) beverage that we traditionally drink at christmas and easter
technically that would be Julmust wouldn't it? Just that it is sometimes shortened to must when sold when it's not Chrismas or Easter season?
 

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That's because I don't think anyone actually serves it at a restaurant right or even drinks it? Must is freshly crushed grapes, including all the pulp and stems and shit, that gets used to make wine. Even for non-alcoholic purposes I would assume it would undergo further processing.
Sorry to disagree
 

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Sorry to disagree
Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
 
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Sorry to disagree
Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."
As a non-drinker all this talk about must made me curious and I found this link:


This states that grape must itself is unwise to drink and if you want to it's recommended to be under guidance of a winemaker.
Is it possible you meant non-alcoholic wine or maybe even cider Trope? Non-alcoholic wine can also be made from grape must but it still requires an extra processing step.
 
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Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
Strange fixation this...

I've been served "Mosto" both in Spain and in Portugal. I've helped to make it. I've drunk it as a child.

We are probably talking of different things, but, it is found for sale in Spain in Supermarkets in the Sodas/Juices section. Usually right next to Sangria.

So, in your region isn't? Well... I can only be sad for you, because it is delicious. And NO, it isn't the same as Grape Juice.

Peace :)
 

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Strange fixation this...

I've been served "Mosto" both in Spain and in Portugal. I've helped to make it. I've drunk it as a child.

We are probably talking of different things, but, it is found for sale in Spain in Supermarkets in the Sodas/Juices section. Usually right next to Sangria.

So, in your region isn't? Well... I can only be sad for you, because it is delicious. And NO, it isn't the same as Grape Juice.

Peace :)
Oh that sounds quite what Trope meant.
In that case I would actually not translate it at all, since translated it would indeed be must or grape juice which it both isn't.
 
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Strange fixation this...

I've been served "Mosto" both in Spain and in Portugal. I've helped to make it. I've drunk it as a child.

We are probably talking of different things, but, it is found for sale in Spain in Supermarkets in the Sodas/Juices section. Usually right next to Sangria.

So, in your region isn't? Well... I can only be sad for you, because it is delicious. And NO, it isn't the same as Grape Juice.

Peace :)
Not a fixation, it just seemed weird to me and I replied to someone else who mentioned it.
Seems to be a European thing then to sell it maybe. I've encountered verjuice but that's unripe grapes. If its done around where I live probably not called Must then when they do (edit: which makes sense because you know, it technically wouldnt be without the pulp and shit). Thanks for the info though.
 
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Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
Trope95 do you guy's in the old world call it "Turba de Uva" as well ?
How Alexia told me
In Germany it is called "Apfelmost"(made out of apples) popular in the Hessen region (around Frankfurt ) it is sold refined as by product of Cider (Äpelwoi) production, I've seen also in the Lake Constance region the so called "Traubenmost".
As Daphne can confirm since she is cultural interested
 
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Apart from presenting the information poorly, that link says exactly what I said about must, so its agreeing with my statement about what it is haha.

"From this process, a viscous paste is formed by pressed pulp, broken skin."
"The main difference lies in the composition of the must. In its case it is obtained from seeds, stems, skins, and fresh juice."

I guess you could strain it and then bottle but i've never seen it sold as must, at least not around where i live or any of the many winery's i've been too.
It's even written in the bottle "Mosto gasificado" (must with gas). The more traditional version doesn't have gas.

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I'm no one to say Merriam Webster knowledge of English is wrong.

Fortunately, I've never seen an AK47 or an AR-15 where I live, in military barracks I served, or in armories I visited (aside than in museums). It doesn't mean they doesn't exist. Should I think they don't exist because I didn't see them in my area?

Returning to wine, and taking into account that champagne was invented at the end of 17th century, I guess an inhabitant in Habana, New York, Montreal, or Beijing at the start of 18th century wouldn't have seen it or heard of it. Does it meant it didn't exist? The US is one of the places in the world with bigger food/drink imports (if not the biggest), so you can find almost everything produced around. In enough quantities to be mainstream? Obviously not.
 
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It's even written in the bottle "Mosto gasificado" (must with gas). The more traditional version doesn't have gas.

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I feel you are a bit defensive over my simple comment. I never claimed it didn't exist. Note the also in your screenshot, we were just both apparently used to seeing the word used very differently. Already been cleared up a few posts above anyway.
 

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Trope95 do you guy's in the old world call it "Turba de Uva" as well ?
In Germany it is called "Apfelmost" popular in the Hessen region (around Frankfurt ) it is sold refined as by product of Cider (Äpelwoi) production, I've seen also in the Lake Constance region the so called "Traubenmost".
My Grandmother did it in 2 different ways, one was with only Red Grapes of a particularly sweet variety, it is grown mostly in the Center of Portugal, it's called "Morangueira". It's characterized by small grapes, very sweet, but with a thick and unpleasant to eat skin. It produces a low alcohol wine, in spite of the sugar content, because it is meant to be drunk quite young and not fully fermented. Almost a "Green" wine (another Portuguese way of making wine). But, this "Mosto" is only drunk on the time of the Harvest, it is taken from the pressed result of the first Harvest, filtered, watered, and chilled. It is not meant to last more than 2 or 3 days.

Then the one she made with Red and White grapes, less sweet, but more tasty, also lasted longer, this was done with select grapes through the Harvest, the biggest more juicy ones were set apart to be kept in water and in the dark so they wouldn't mature further. These were lately pressed on a clean machine, filtered and chilled. There was no need to water it down, the grapes had filled completely and were full of water. This was quite special and kept in bottles in the dark to last until Christmas. Why it didn't ferment, is still a mystery to me. Near Christmas, my Grandmother poured the bottles into a large vat, added some weak "Aguardente" from the first pass of the Alambique, and bottled it again. It is now called "Jeropiga" and even being low alcohol it is very sweet and goes famously with braised chestnuts.

Thanks for this trip to my memories, it has been a while since I had been there.

Peace :)
 
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