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That doesn't mean you're attracted to her. You can still choose the first option and that doesn't mean you are on her path... the path choice is way later.
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The conversation that follows that choice is very much "into her", though the other option is far too distasteful which is why i had to go with the top. She even asks if you're hitting on her, and then you saying something to the effect of "not yet". It just seems like a neutral option should have been there.
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Well, I understand but I don't know what I can say more. He's not into her (yet) and the option to be on her path is later. So even if you choose to be kind and friendly and it's not your favorite option, your still not on her path so you don't have to wonder if she's in the harem or not, you can clearly say no to her later and still be friend with her, don't worry.
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I understand you and appreciate your response. I was simply trying to communicate that her path seemed too one sided even before the precipice. Case in point that specific interaction. Having all the girls points wrapped up in it seems improper and unfair. The MC could support her as a person without having to insinuate to her that there was an attraction between the two of them.
I'm still working on my playthrough, but so far in season 1 it seems like every single interaction with the students effects all of the students, and that just seems wrong. You're either full harem, or an asshole, or rarely you have the option to get no points with anyone at all. I mean, the girls JUST started getting to know eachother. I've got a lot of thoughts on it, but i'm trying to play through the story to see how things work out. This specific instance being so heavily weighted with only 2 choices just really really bothered me. And the whole idea of a forum is to share these thoughts/ideas/personal feelings right?
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I understand what you mean.
Try to view it like that; the girls would like you more if you a friendly, nice and sweet with the others, even if they aren't in the harem. They view each other like potential friends/family. So, when you choose the action that gives you point, it's like just saying to someone in real life that her new hair is gorgeous and she looks amazing today. That doesn't mean you want her more than a friend just because you give her a compliment.
Viewing it like that, you'll see more and more in the game that it doesn't mean you are automatically interested to add that character in the harem. The choice to add a character is more a yes or no question like: "Open path with X? Don't open path with X?"
So even when your MC isn't in someone path, you can still be a friend with her and it always prove to the other girls are a great guy you are.
I hope that will help if you can view it like that.
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This was my goal. Even if Trop doesn't agree with me, I imagine they want to hear respectful perspectives. And maybe even this particular scene has simply slipped by until now and they'll consider adding a middle way there.
I certainly do not want to insult. Just trying to participate in the discourse and offer another view on what to me felt like a pivotal scene.
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Don't worry, you're not disrespectful.
Also, Chris Jericho approved your nickname.
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I do understand what you mean, but as i've been saying I think that particular scene could use a third option.
And i may get my hand slapped for this, but effin A yes on Amy in the signature. She's dope!
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And now you bring in Ted, everyone loves Ted! As for my name, I'm not much of a wrestling fan. It was more of a walls of Jericho coming down and letting all of the knowledge and pursuit of desires come out kind of thing.
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Adding a sorry from another CanadianWhat a shitty dev! He can't be on here like 20h a day, wow!
Pfffff!
At least he has the decency to include Montréal to the game.
I had too Trope95 don't hate your favorite Montrealer!
*Being sorry in Canadian*
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Nevermind nobody could get into that Ass neither ......
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No, not but consider this, Trope has Hispanic culture, and we are not so literal as people from the US, as I already said, the decision point is far more ahead.
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Nah nevermind you just got hit by a philosophical stone,
consider it your initiation , it is either that or drink Wookie Ookies "Pinapple whiskey"
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I quote one of your posts, but I will answer every one of your points. I like this kind of feedback, it's discussion-inducing.
That scene is an important plot point for every one of the students, you are telling them that they can be themselves or what "society" expects from them; you are not telling them the MC is in love with (or interested in, or even liking) any of them. That's why it affects differently (RPs change) every one of the girls:
* Kim is obviously the most affected. You are either supporting her or insulting her, so the +10/-30. You are not saying you love her.
* Debbie is as self-conscious about her body as Kim is, so her RPs are the ones that change the most among the other students (+6/-10).
* Kate doesn't give a fuck about the MC's opinion of her, but she hates bullies and she's friendly (and sharing a room) with Kim (+4/-6).
* Lisa is the less affected (+2/-4). She is used to "society" having a say on what she can do or not, and to some people being harsh on her if she doesn't comply with what "society" expects from her.
A lot of interactions early on affect more than one girl, since they talk among themselves (or listen to the conversation) and they decide if the MC is friendly or an asshole. They don't have the advantage of having known him for years (like the closer family and friends including Megan, the Washingtons, and the Lambs) or seeing him act (like Alexia or Maddie). They need to form an opinion of him based on your choices. And they (especially Kate, Debbie, and Lisa) have a previous relationship, so leaning on Lisa will anger Kate, leaning on Debbie will please Lisa, and stopping Lisa's "posh-ness" will please both Debbie and Kate. Kim is the outsider, but she becomes friends with every one of them (or doesn't antagonize any of them, as shown in the conversation in Emma's room).
Note that the negative RPs are higher (in absolute value) than the positive ones. That makes sense since being supportive is "expected" and being a bully isn't. Oh, the irony! The girls don't want to "have to behave" as expected but they judge the MC for how he's expected to interact with them.
The conversation, when supporting her, goes by:
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He's talking in conditional: "If I dated someone like you", "I would still feel like you lied to me", "I know I would feel that way", etc.
Having a middle-ground choice would dilute one of My Dorm's main themes: "You are perfect as you are" (That doesn't mean the MC wants to fuck that perfectness). You can get the maximum RPs with any of the students (the only ones with RPs for obvious reasons) and not start a relationship with any of them. RPs are only about how THEY see the MC (friendly/unfriendly), not about how the player/MC sees them. So you need a minimum amount (+5) to have the chance to open a relationship with them, but you aren't forced to open it. On a side note, I love how eager some players are to open a relationship with Kim. Mandela effect here. They remember having opened the relationship with her already, and it hasn't happened yet.
. Losing those points with Lisa/Kate/Debbie isn't relationship-breaking if you are interested in them (if you don't behave like a jerk in the other interactions). Debbie can be somewhere between +44/-26 when the choice to open a relationship is shown, and Lisa +35/-11. Losing 10 or 4 points won't affect that choice showing.I hope to have answered your points.